AdViewGlobal Claims Web Reporter Got It All Wrong, Denies Link To AdSurfDaily Inc., Chides TheJoyLuckClub For Report

UPDATED 5:27 PM. EST (U.S.A.) A new autosurf company that refuses to disclose its ownership, claims to be registered in Uruguay, operates servers that resolve to Panama — and has a horde of U.S.-based affiliates who were former members of AdSurfDaily Inc. — has denied any ties to ASD.

Sort of.

A link placed this afternoon at TheJoyLuckClub website takes viewers to U.S.-based Google Docs, from which they can download the official explanation of AdViewGlobal. TheJoyLuckClub and other sites reported last week that AdViewGlobal graphics were appearing on a webroom operated by ASD, despite an assertion by AdViewGlobal that it has nothing to do with ASD. The graphics suddenly were removed after word spread around the Web.

In its explanation, AdViewGlobal chided TheJoyLuckClub for issuing an “unfortunate” report that misled readers.

Normally associated with the Pro-ASD side of things, the JoyLuckClub increasingly has been challenging ASD for its explanations or lack thereof. Its report and an accompanying video clearly showed an AdViewGlobal banner on the ASD-controlled website, and was accurate by all accounts — except the accounts of AdViewGlobal and a small group of people at the “Surf’s Up” forum who also are promoting AdViewGlobal.

“When the management team in Uruguay was organizing AdView Global, they were looking for someone who was familiar with the U.S. market and the processes in which to make a surfing company successful,” AdViewGlobal said today in its statement. “It was for this reason that AdView Global  hired Mr. Gary Talbert as their C.E.O.”

AdViewGlobal did not identify members of the “management team” in Uruguay, but for the first time confirmed that former ASD executive Gary Talbert was chief executive officer of the new company.

The appearance of its graphics on the ASD-controlled website was an “operational coincidence,” AdViewGlobal explained.

“Since Mr. Talbert was and is the C.E.O. for both companies and had worked with the same web room company while at ASD, it would be very natural for him to choose and use many of the same venders (sic) that he had used before. So, the fact that ASD and AdView Global are using the same web room hosting company is no accident, in fact it is an operational coincidence,” AdViewGlobal said.

The issue to some ASD members, however, was not that ASD and AdViewGlobal were using common vendors; the issue was why ADViewGlobal’s graphics were appearing inside and outside the exact same webroom ASD used — at a URL that included ASD’s name.

One image reproduced on scam.com and at least one other site that covers ASD news shows the address of AdViewGlobal as “13 S. Calhoun Street, Quincy, FL 32351” — the building in which ASD is headquartered.

Why AdViewGlobal listed Talbert as “C.E.O. for both companies” in today’s statement is unclear. He is listed in sworn court documents as “Human Resource Manager, Assistant CFO and Website Editor” of AdSurfDaily Inc.

Also unclear is how the company can claim no direct ties to ASD — as it does on its main website in a special disclaimer — when the two companies share a common executive.

“But in spite of this operational coincidence there is no connection between ASD and AdView Global,” AdViewGlobal insisted.

It provided an example to illustrate its claim:

“The idea of two companies using the same web room company to hold training is like buying gasoline for your wife’s car at a gas station and later using the same gas station
to buy gasoline for your car. This type of shopping is usually done for convenience and familiarity.

“The fact that Mr. Talbert did not completely finish making all of the design and name changes on the web room probably meant that he was called away in the middle of making the changes by another pressing matter. But for someone to think that ASD and AdView Global are related just because the old proverbial business name was still on this dormant proverbial building front would be a leap of faith and this conclusion is far from the truth.”

AdViewGlobal did not explain why it used the word “probably” when explaining what occurred. Also unclear is why Talbert wasn’t quoted in the release, so he could explain precisely what happened and take the theoretical totally out of play.

“Talbert has now completed all his changes and the web room now reflects the current and only user of this web room,” AdViewGlobal explained.

It then chided TheJoyLuckClub:

“It is unfortunate that an unconfirmed report such as yours occurred and that so many viewers were misled by your story. Mr. Talbert is extremely sorry for the confusion he created by not completing all the changes to the web room at the same time.”

AdViewGlobal did not provide the web address of the new webroom from which it was operating. Nor did it explain why — if it was able to determine that Talbert was “sorry for the confusion” — it didn’t explain exactly what happened instead of using a speculative word such as “probably” and suggesting he might have been called away on other “pressing” business.

“So once again the only link between ASD and AdView Global is the fact that there are a couple of upper managers who have remained behind to help ASD through its litigation process and are now working for AdView Global,” the company concluded. “But be assured that there are no corporate or legal links between the two companies.”

AdViewGlobal did not explain how a business model that is illegal in the United States, for, among other things, the sale of unregistered securities, is any more legal when it is pitching the same product to U.S. citizens from Uruguay or Panama.

The release carried the name of Chuck Osmin, identifying him as customer service manager for AdViewGlobal. Osmin testified for ASD at a Sept. 30-Oct. 1 evidentiary hearing.

In November, Judge Rosemary Collyer ruled that ASD had not demonstrated it was a legal business and not a Ponzi scheme at the evidentiary hearing. Last month, ASD President Andy Bowdoin withdrew his claims to tens of millions of dollars seized by the government in August amid allegations that ASD was a criminal enterprise.

Two other new surfs — AdGateWorld and BizAdSplash — also have servers that resolve to Panama, along with promoters common to ASD.

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11 Responses to “AdViewGlobal Claims Web Reporter Got It All Wrong, Denies Link To AdSurfDaily Inc., Chides TheJoyLuckClub For Report”

  1. Patrick, thanks for seeing this as the complete BS that it really is :)

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  2. Patrick:

    As a professional writer, can you make sense of AVG’s use of the word “proverbial” in the sentence below? It’s as if the person who chose the word has no idea what it means, but thought it sounded intelligent and was determined to work it into a sentence at the first possible moment. (Actually, all their writing sounds very pretentious — not actually intelligent and businesslike but what someone THINKS sounds very professional.)

    “The fact that Mr. Talbert did not completely finish making all of the design and name changes on the web room probably meant that he was called away in the middle of making the changes by another pressing matter. But for someone to think that ASD and AdView Global are related just because the old proverbial business name was still on this dormant proverbial building front would be a leap of faith and this conclusion is far from the truth.”

    I’m certain that within the last 60 days, one AVG promoter bragged that George Harris was in Uruguay setting up AVG, and you’ll notice they didn’t mention the Harris family when they disclaimed any connection to ASD.

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  3. I think it is still called “propaganda”, unless they have changed the meaning of the word since I went to college

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  4. Hi Don,

    Don: Patrick, thanks for seeing this as the complete BS that it really is

    The idea that an ASD employee who testified for ASD at the evidentiary hearing could be a credible spokesman for AdViewGlobal is, itself, incredible.

    ASD is a $100 million Ponzi scheme. That is incompatible with credibility. Bowdoin already has surrendered the seized funds.

    AdViewGlobal has no credible spokesperson. The company is luring in old ASD members by suggesting that, perhaps, their old ASD “ad packs” will be ported over.

    No ties?

    Bowdoin ported over old ASD ad packs to a new company name after the purported Russian hacker stole $1 million.

    Remember, Bowdoin was having South American fantasies at the Miami rally. See the August complaint. He was going to buy a credit-card processor “and controlling interest in an international bank.”

    And the in-house payment processor AdViewGlobal is using is right out of the CEP Ponzi scheme playbook. Bowdoin, at one time, advertised that ASD accepted CEP Trust.

    Patrick

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  5. Hi Marci,

    Marci: As a professional writer, can you make sense of AVG’s use of the word “proverbial” in the sentence below?

    No, for the reasons you stated. None of this is consistent with a professional advertising company. The thought itself is ludicrous.

    Marci: “The fact that Mr. Talbert did not completely finish making all of the design and name changes on the web room probably meant that he was called away in the middle of making the changes by another pressing matter. But for someone to think that ASD and AdView Global are related just because the old proverbial business name was still on this dormant proverbial building front would be a leap of faith and this conclusion is far from the truth.”

    All of this is AdViewGlobal babble.

    Patrick

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  6. Hi alasycia,

    alasycia: I think it is still called “propaganda”, unless they have changed the meaning of the word since I went to college

    Yes, indeed.

    Patrick

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