BREAKING NEWS: Bob Guenther Charged With Two Felony Counts Of Aggravated Harassment In Arizona

UPDATED 2:12 P.M. EDT (U.S.A.) Bob Guenther, a mainstay in the AdSurfDaily case and the de facto head of the ASD Members Business Association (ASDMBA) Trust, has been charged with two felony counts of aggravated harassment in Maricopa County, Arizona.

Mesa, Arizona, police said Guenther repeatedly violated a court injunction for workplace harassment that prohibited him from nuisancing Cheyenne Mountain and Affiliates, an Arizona business.

Despite the injunction, Guenther continued to contact Cheyenne Mountain in a manner that “harassed or threatened” the company, police said.

Guenther violated the court order both by email and telephone, police said. An infraction that occurred via telephone was recorded and placed into evidence.

“[Guenther] is being charged with aggravated harassment because of the multiple violations of the injunction,” police said. The investigator handling the case said in court documents that up to five separate violations of the order occurred and that Guenther “continues to violate this injunction.”

The case is being prosecuted by the office of Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas. Charges were filed March 13. Guenther is scheduled to make a court appearance April 14.

Read the criminal complaint for aggravated harassment against Guenther.

Guenther is the de facto head of ASDMBA, a group funded by members with the expectation that their legal interests would be protected in the AdSurfDaily Ponzi scheme case. Federal prosecutors seized tens of millions of dollars from ASD in August, saying the company was selling unregistered securities and engaging in wire fraud and money-laundering.

ASDMBA members said Guenther has refused to provide transparent accounting for ASDMBA, instead engaging in profanity, threats and menacing behavior. In recent days, Guenther has claimed that someone was impersonating him on the ASD-Biz forum, a discussion site for ASD and ASDMBA members and people interested in the case.

Guenther deleted his account at the forum, an act that also deleted his posts. He then established an account under a different user name. Within hours threats and hostile language appeared under his new forum identity.

Here is a post claimed by Guenther that appeared yesterday at the ASD-Biz Forum (italics added):

Ill tell you how you move on, you can kiss your ASD money goodbye…

None of you 10-12 idiots deserve a fricking thing but a butt kicking, certainly not my time

Arons, Ill see your dumbass in court. You are a piece of work rookie, and when I finish with you, there wont be a place you can hide, and that’s after Friedman..

This is Bob Guenther, my assistant, Maria will not waste her time again in this pissy room full of wanna-be’s, weak sucks, and overweight nagging women..

You dont like what I say, do something about it besides talk.. Bunch of weaks sisters.

The “Arons” to whom Guenther referred was Jack Arons, a Florida man named a defendant in a slander and libel lawsuit filed earlier this month by Dallas-based attorney Larry Friedman.

Friedman is the attorney for the Trust and was was introduced to ASDMBA members by Guenther. Some ASDMBA members said they had turned to the Texas Bar and the office of Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott to investigate the Trust.

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16 Responses to “BREAKING NEWS: Bob Guenther Charged With Two Felony Counts Of Aggravated Harassment In Arizona”

  1. Maybe this is the reason bg took down all of his threatening posts from the ASD-BIZ Forum..I have think perhaps the ASD-BIZ Forum could file similar charges? All of the threads toward members of the forum took place in Arizona and only a few in Mexico (maybe). Maybe some legal beagle could advise..it might be worth a shot.

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  2. Kathy:

    Since most of us have snap shots(captures) of Bob’s threats the best that anyone can do would be to send them to the Prosecutor which will greatly help his case as it shows that this is what he does all the time. If you have any emails with threats that also will help. I just sent a handful of all the emails that I have received from Bob with threats in them.

    Bob deserves what ever they throw at him. I intend to do what ever it takes to make sure he feels the brunt of Justice.

    Thank you Patrick for another job well done.

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  3. So it looks as if Bob G’s protests that “person or persons unknown” hijacked his account at ASD Biz is a nice little preamble to a defence that it wasnt him that harrassed Cheyenne at all – it was his next door neighbour pretending to be him all along.

    If it wasnt such a tragic inditement of an otherwise intelligent man’s behaviour, it would be hysterically funny. In fact, being realistic, lets face it, it is hysterically funny. Karma is the word that springs to mind

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  4. I just want to go and see if they make him wear the pink prison jumpsuits Maricopa County is famous for.

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  5. Too bad for Bob but I guess they just don’t know about “Texas Justice” in Arizona. Technical question, can you run an ASDMBA fund raising webinar from an Arizona jail cell?

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  6. If it wasnt such a tragic inditement of an otherwise intelligent man’s behaviour,

    Intellegent? Bob? You are being sarcastic, surely? Little Bobbie was an ex-second hand car salesman who could only answer robust questions by making veiled threats. He often referred to his ex-marine buddies, and insulted people. He was a small, little, greedy, pathetic idiot who fell for the obvious ponzi that was ASD, and created the “Trust” so he & his lawyer friend could make some money. All my opinion, of course.

    There are areas of the east end of London that have colourful phrases to describe people like Little Bobbie. “Intelligent” isn’t one of them, but “Merchant Banker” might be.

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  7. Ok I’ll settle for Merchant Banker

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  8. Tony H:

    Intellegent? Bob? You are being sarcastic, surely?

    I don’t think she was if you consider she is another greedy, pathetic idiot who fell for the obvious ponzi that was ASD, and then encouraged other people to join her in sending money to Guenther so he & his lawyer friend could make some money, along with herself, of course. All my opinion, of course.

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  9. Hmmm Pistol, I think we have met before. According to you, I should be rich by now. The assumptions are leaking through again.

    When I first “met” Bob G,he was a quietly spoken man with a very clear perspective on ASD. With hindsight, a slanted perspective, but always quiet and clear. Then he lost the plot and turned into a Merchant of one Mother Natures finest.

    I am not making assessments about his intentions at the beginning, although, again with hindsight, they were probably dubious. I do not however enjoy seeing someone lose their mind and even less if it is at the expense of other peoples’ suffering.

    I never stood to gain $$$ from membership of ASDMBA, unless Larrry Friedman was able to prove the ASD Business Model and obtain Standing in Court, which we now know was impossible. However, before it was clearly established that the Model was unsustainable (because there was no outside revenue), the ASDMBA members joined because Larry Friedman went on record to say that it WAS sustainable and therefore no member had involved themselves in an illegal operation and he was going to prove it in court. THAT is why some of us joined.

    Many of us regret joining both ASD and ASDMBA because of the illegality and immorality of the first and the immorality of the second.

    I think there are some erroneous assumptions “impeded” in your post

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  10. Gregg Evans: I just want to go and see if they make him wear the pink prison jumpsuits Maricopa County is famous for.

    And be stuck in ‘tent city’ for the duration of hopefully a swelting summer.

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  11. it’s 9:03pm cst and this story about Bob G. has not been reported on the surf up site yet. weird!!! By the way heard Andy sold the data base to some company I have not gotting the e-amil yet that’s all I know.

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  12. To Whom It May Concern

    This is Bob Guenther, I am not in jail, I have not been served, I have not been contacted by any lawyer, nor has my Phoenix based lawyer, or my Dallas based lawyer.

    Furthermore, the court injuction you report that I violated; That injunction dismissed on January 16, 2009 and quashed at 1:39pm of January 20, 2009.

    Refer below form the dismissal from Superior Court of Arizona, Maricopa County CV2009-090215

    *** Electronically Filed ***
    01/20/2009 8:00 AM
    SUPERIOR COURT OF ARIZONA
    MARICOPA COUNTY
    CV 2009-090215 01/16/2009
    Docket Code 002 Form V000A Page 1
    CLERK OF THE COURT
    COMMISSIONER BRIAN S. REES L. Gauna
    Deputy
    MMOGULS / CHEYENNE MOUNTAIN &
    AFFILIATES
    MMOGULS / CHEYENNE MOUNTAIN
    & AFFILIATES
    4140 E BASELINE RD
    MESA AZ 85206
    v.
    ROBERT GUENTHER SCOTT H ZWILLINGER
    MCSO-OIC
    MINUTE ENTRY
    This matter having been set for hearing on the Injunction Against Workplace Harassment
    issued on January 5, 2009 on behalf of Mmoguls/Cheyenne Mountain & Affiliates and against
    Robert L. Guenther at 9:30 a.m., and the Court having received and reviewed a faxed Stipulation
    for Dismissal without Prejudice,
    IT IS THEREFORE ORDERED approving the Stipulation.
    IT IS FURTHER ORDERED vacating the hearing set this date.
    IT IS FURTHER ORDERED dismissing the Injunction Against Workplace Harassment
    issued on January 5, 2009.
    FILED: Order Dismissing Injunction Against Workplace Harassment
    LET THE RECORD REFLECT the Injunction Against Workplace Harassment is
    quashed electronically at 1:49 p.m. by the above named Deputy Clerk

    I would assume your “Pretty Patrick” reporting would include a comment about this???

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  13. Why would anyone comment on the fact that this complaint alleges the offence/s took place “on or about JANUARY 7, 2009” and “on or about JANUARY 12, 2009” meaning the injunction/s were still in place, as per the posted copy of the dismissal and quashing order which didn’t become effective until 1:39pm JANUARY 20, 2009.

    Unless there’s some sort of Arizona statute which allows for an ESP defense in such cases.

    Somehow I don’t think the old “I’m not guilty because I KNEW the order/s were going to be withdrawn 13 days later” defense works, unless it’s some sort of Good Ol’ Boy Wild West law “thing”

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  14. BREAKING NEWS: Bob Guenther fails to make list of most influential people!

    http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/0,28757,1883644,00.html

    In a shocking report today, it was revealed that the well known internet loonie, Bob “The Merchant” Guenther has failed to enter the list of the 100 most influential people. The list, produced by Time magazine, includes people like Barack Obama, Bernie Madoff and Thomas Beatie (the pregnant man). A spokesman for Time magazine said “Bob who?”, when asked why such a notable person had been omitted from the list.

    Speaking from a small room while wearing fetching pink overalls, Bob “The Merchant”, 57, made this comment:
    “Those idiots at Time magazine don’t know what they have done, leaving me off the list. I’m going to get some of my ex-marine buddies to pay them a visit, then we’ll see what list they will be on. They deserve a fricking butt kicking. Leaving me off that list is an insult, libel and slander. Even Boris Johnson made that list! And Rickey Gervais! I have more influence in my little finger than Britney Spears! Ill see those dumbass in court, they are a piece of work, rookies, there won’t be any place they can hide. Bunch of wanna-be’s, weak sucks and over weight nagging women. I’m going to be on that list, bunch of weak sisters.”

    Mr Guenther’s lawyer, Mr Larry Friedfish of the well known Dallas law firm “Friedfish & Chips” is expected to find a friendly judge and file numerous lawsuits as soon as the “Texas Bar” shuts and the betting shop closes.

    Mr Guenther’s “assistant”, “Maria” was unavailable for comment for some reason.

    The above story is fictitious and satire, which is protected under some amendment thingy.

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  15. I am losing confidence in the “REPORTING SKILLS” of this online reporting service, now I am beginning to think it is a for profit service run by inexpierenced TECHNO hacks who can’t get a real job, OR this actually is a business run by some savy people that have figured out how to exploit the internet phenom of “believe anything on the internet”

    he reason is you just are not doing a good job of reporting the entire story…. Gary Whiting has now run through 4 lawyers fighting me.
    1) His in house Corporate Counsel, Mike Rafforf just resigned, his other rinky dink lawyer, Gary Henry cant practice in Arizona, he holds licences in Nevada and Utah, for the time being, as he is under constant attack from the SEC and just about every other sanctioning agency in those two states, then there was Kevin Grimes, the former COO of MMOGULS, Damian Koulot hired this highly respected MLM lawyer from Utah to help organize MMOGULS.

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  16. I am losing confidence in the “REPORTING SKILLS” of this online reporting service, now I am beginning to think it is a for profit service run by inexpierenced TECHNO hacks who can’t get a real job, OR this actually is a business run by some savy people that have figured out how to exploit the internet phenom of “believe anything on the internet” The reason is you just are not doing a good job of reporting the entire story…. Gary Whiting has now run through 4 lawyers fighting me.1) His in house Corporate Counsel, Mike Rafforf just resigned, his other rinky dink lawyer, Gary Henry cant practice in Arizona, he holds licences in Nevada and Utah, for the time being, as he is under constant attack from the SEC and just about every other sanctioning agency in those two states, then there was Kevin Grimes, the former COO of MMOGULS, Damian Koulot hired this highly respected MLM lawyer from Utah to help organize MMOGULS.

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