Guenther Has More Legal Troubles In Arizona

The de facto head of the ASD Members Business Association has more legal troubles in Arizona.

Bob Guenther faces an araignment hearing April 29 in East Mesa Justice Court. Guenther, according to records, was charged with an unspecified offense April 2.

Judge Mark Chiles is scheduled to preside. A court employee said she was not authorized to provide details about the allegation against Guenther, referring inquiries to J.W. Brown, identified as a court spokeswoman. Brown could not be reached. Calls to the media office were not answered.

A docket entry describes the allegation only as a “New Case.”

Meanwhile, Guenther is scheduled to make an appearance in Justice Court April 27 for a traffic violation. This brings to three the number of court appearances Guenther is scheduled to make this month.

He was charged March 27 in what was described as a photo radar ticket. In such cases, a camera takes a photo of a vehicle allegedly involved in a traffic violation, and the vehicle owner is mailed a ticket.

Guenther also is scheduled to make an appearance April 14 in Maricopa County Criminal Court.

He was charged March 13 with two felony counts of aggravated harassment. Mesa, Arizona, police said Guenther repeatedly violated a court injunction for workplace harassment that prohibited him from nuisancing Cheyenne Mountain and Affiliates, an Arizona business.

Despite the injunction, Guenther continued to contact Cheyenne Mountain in a manner that “harassed or threatened” the company, police said.

Guenther violated the court order both by email and telephone, police said. An infraction that occurred via telephone was recorded and placed into evidence. Guenther said the recording was obtained illegally.

ASDMBA is a group funded by members who had the expectation that their legal interests would be protected in the AdSurfDaily Ponzi scheme case. Federal prosecutors seized tens of millions of dollars from ASD in August, saying the company was selling unregistered securities and engaging in wire fraud and money-laundering.

ASDMBA members said Guenther has refused to provide transparent accounting for ASDMBA, instead engaging in profanity, threats and menacing behavior.

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23 Responses to “Guenther Has More Legal Troubles In Arizona”

  1. Patrick:

    The hearing on the 14th should be most interesting. Wonder if the Prosecutor would like to read Bob’s warning to you in the previous article where he has threatened you if you don’t do as Bob says?

    The same goes for the other case on the 29th. Sure would be interesting to hear Bob explain his comments under oath in both cases don’t yout think?

    It is going to be interesting to see what happens when a bully doesn’t have a judge in his back pocket to save his backside. I got the impression from the comments by the Prosecutor he is not impressed with Bob’s “movers and shakers” buddies.

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  2. Maybe this is “the truth” that scumbag Guenther was referring to in the other thread. Perhaps Patrick has done Guenther a favour by revealing “the truth”?

    Despite the injunction, Guenther continued to contact Cheyenne Mountain in a manner that “harassed or threatened” the company, police said.

    But, that doesn’t sound like Little Fluffy Bobbie at all, does it? I wonder if Friedfish the lawyer will be filing court papers against Arizona police?

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  3. With this new information coming to light we now know why Daffy Duck was not doing much posting….another bond perhaps?

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  4. If Bob had to go any length of time without saying something stupid, I think he might explode….he just doesn’t have enough self control to do it, and that is why I think he’s in trouble in the harassment suit, he just couldn’t go more than a few days without calling and tossing idle threats at people.

    Sometimes you wonder if a guy was dropped on his head when he was a baby, with Bob it looks more like they wound up and threw him.

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  5. All you internet lawyers must be scrapping the barrell to worry about my traffic ticket.. Of course, since I wasn’t driving my pickup, a simple letter to the court has cured that..

    Regarding the April 14, 2009 “Hearing”, be sure and check back after 4:30pm on the 14th.. Finally regardng the April 29, 2009 hearing in municipal court, that is for a misdemeanor, and is a duplucate filing of the other two “bogus” filings scheduled to be heard on April 14.. All will be tossed, just like the one before..

    Rgarding your last “story”.. The reason you won’t answermy emails has nothing to do with threats… I challenge you to post the email where I threatened you.. Go right ahead…………

    You have nothing more to say about anything than to stir up controversy to drive hits to your site..

    Are you a”For Profit” site, or is this a public service or a 501 (c) 3 non-profit?? I can answer that one.. Internet Marketing….

    And Lynndel, you need to get a job, you must spend all your time on the internet, you are everywhere..

    What amazes me, I give this “publication” bits of evidence of how the Government botched the ASD case, continues to botch it, and evidence of at least 4 more ASD knock offs operating right now and ripping people off, and they take the time write a colume on me and my TRAFFIC TICKET… Journalism at it’s best guys..

    Ill send you to a few links tomorrow…

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  6. Robert Guenther: What amazes me, I give this “publication” bits of evidence of how the Government botched the ASD case, continues to botch it, and evidence of at least 4 more ASD knock offs operating right now and ripping people off,

    Good Lord,

    Imagine that, a multi jusrisdictional taskforce on the case, yet a failed car salesman is delusional enough to think he’s trumped them and could do better.

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  7. Robert Guenther: Are you a”For Profit” site, or is this a public service or a 501 (c) 3 non-profit?? I can answer that one.. Internet Marketing….

    Was the ASDMBA Trust a trust or not a trust? I can’t answer that one.

    Was ASD a ponzi or not a ponzi? High profile, mover & shaker lawyer Larry Friedfish can answer that one – he said it’s not a ponzi.

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  8. Robert Guenther: Are you a”For Profit” site, or is this a public service or a 501 (c) 3 non-profit?? I can answer that one.. Internet Marketing….

    So, Mr. Guenther, with all due respect, it appears from this comment that you find something objectionable with the possibility that Patrick has found a way to profit from what he writes on this blog. And you infer that he does so at your expense.

    Hmmm….if profiting at the expense of others is “wrong”, then how would you define selling cars? Or becoming a participant in the ASD Ponzi and talking others into doing likwise? Or collecting funds from people to fund your attempt at gaining control/receivership of the ASD money? Or pitching people on enrolling in the latest best hot gaming/social-network Ponzi scheme?

    All those are things you’ve done to profit at the expense of others, correct? Why shouldn’t Patrick be able to do likewise?

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  9. Bob,

    YOU DON’T MATTER, you’re only roe is comic relief. The pubic service of announcing your various court dates is to assure people that on those days the sheep are safe in the other jurisdictions for that day at least. Have you not gotten it yet? No one takes you seriously, that’s why Bill Cowden won’t take your calls, he thinks you’re a nutjob. Patrick doesn’t stop his life every time you send an e-mail full of “facts” because he doesn’t take you seriously. I wouldn’t take any “facts” you supplied myself because I believe you to be a liar, uncapabe of telling the truth even when it wouldn’t hurt you to. Most of us would have put you on ignore long ago except for the human nature of staring at car wrecks and sideshow freaks, and I know you’re one or the other, I just don’t know which.

    It’s not our fault you got taken by a con man.
    It’s not our fault got called on your little “put me in charge and I’ll storm the hill and you get your money back” scam (well, it is, it’s not our fault it was a stupid plan though)
    It’s not our fault that you have some mental disease of defect that makes you so immature and erratic.
    And it’s not our fault that you were at some point in your life they guy that everyone else beat up for kicks and lunch money.

    But quit thinking anyone is going to take you seriously, you’re behavior gets more bizarre daily, just like an infant that needs a diaper changed you just cry louder and louder until someone hears you, but honestly I’m thinking its about time you quit crying, and learned to wear big boy pants.

    But do go on, we’re getting tons of material out of it!

    Robert Guenther: All you internet lawyers must be scrapping the barrell to worry about my traffic ticket.. Of course, since I wasn’t driving my pickup, a simple letter to the court has cured that..
    Regarding the April 14, 2009 “Hearing”, be sure and check back after 4:30pm on the14th.. Finally regardng the April 29, 2009 hearing in municipal court, that is for a misdemeanor, and is a duplucate filing of the other two “bogus” filings scheduled to be heard on April 14..All will be tossed, just like the one before..Rgarding your last “story”.. The reason you won’t answermy emails has nothing to do with threats… I challenge you to post the email where I threatened you.. Go right ahead…………You have nothing more to say about anything than to stir up controversy to drive hits to your site..Are you a”For Profit” site, or is this a public service or a 501 (c) 3 non-profit??I can answer that one.. Internet Marketing….And Lynndel, you need to get a job, you must spend all your time on the internet, you are everywhere..What amazes me, I give this “publication” bits of evidence of how the Government botched the ASD case, continues to botch it, and evidence of at least 4 more ASD knock offs operating right now and ripping people off, and they take the time write a colume on me and my TRAFFIC TICKET… Journalism at it’s best guys..Ill send you to a few links tomorrow…

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  10. And, apart from agreeing with your last post 1000% Gregg, I can only add –

    How do you know what the Feds have and havent missed Bob? You only know what is public or semi public. They do not take your calls. They do not tell you anything.

    The Feds may even wish that you shut the heck up and stopped letting the whole world what you do know or think you know. (Lots of people know things and dont publish them, as it is not necessary. So long as the right people know, that is all that matters.)

    They may even consider that you are actively hindering their investigations with your big mouth and infantile need to let everyone know what you know, or think you know.

    Why dont you do something useful, like giving us a detailed breakdown of how you spend 130,000$ of OUR money which was paid for legal fees on the understanding that Larry Friedman was going to do what he told us he was going to do – get us standing in court and protect us as ASD members.

    And while you are at it, why dont you tell your buddy Friedfish Friedman to call off his dogs, as far as Jack Arons is concerned. He seems to have far more consideration for his Stamford clients who are without money and on Welfare than he does for his clients in the ASDMBA. The word hypocritical comes to mind. For both of you.

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  11. YOU DON’T MATTER, you’re only roe is comic relief. The pubic service of announcing your various court dates is to assure people that on those days the sheep are safe in the other jurisdictions for that day at least

    someone has sent me a PM and asked whether by “sheep” I meant ponzi scheme victims who may be a little more devoted to their leadership than some think rational, or if I was refferring to livestock.

    :)

    I ain’t tellin!

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  12. YOU DON’T MATTER, you’re only roe is comic relief. The pubic service of announcing your various court dates is to assure people that on those days the sheep are safe in the other jurisdictions for that day at least

    someone has sent me a PM and asked whether by “sheep” I meant ponzi scheme victims who may be a little more devoted to their leadership than some think rational,

    or if I was referring to livestock.

    :)

    I ain’t tellin!

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  13. Tony H:

    Robert Guenther: Are you a”For Profit” site, or is this a public service or a 501 (c) 3 non-profit?? I can answer that one.. Internet Marketing….

    Was the ASDMBA Trust a trust or not a trust? I can’t answer that one.Was ASD a ponzi or not a ponzi? High profile, mover & shaker lawyer Larry Friedfish can answer that one – he said it’s not a ponzi.

    Here are a few answers I found to that question, Tony.

    Posted Aug, 8, 2008:

    ************************QUOTE************
    IMPORTANT ATTACHMENT:

    TO ALL ASD MEMBERS:

    As you already know, the U.S Attorney’s office has filed suit against Thomas A. Bowdoin, Jr., Clarence Busby, Jr., ADSURFDAILY, Golden Panda, and others complaining about the sale of unregistered securities and referring to the business of ADSURFDAILY as a Ponzi scheme. The members strongly disagree with the Government’s claims. This lawsuit allowed the Government to seize a great deal of property, including various bank accounts, credit card accounts, undeposited cashiers checks and virtually shut down our business. We believe that this action by the Government is both unfounded and outrageous. In addition, we believe the seizure of ADSURFDAILY property and shutting down our business without notice violates ADSURFDAILY Members constitutional rights to due process. These harsh acts require an immediate response.

    Accordingly, we are in the process of retaining an attorney in Dallas, Larry Friedman (see his website at http://www.fflawoffice.com). He is the managing partner of the litigation law firm, Friedman & Feiger, L.L.P. We know him to be one of the top lawyers in Texas. He is smart and very aggressive, and has taken on the Government before in matters such as these. He has even dealt, successfully, with certain Government attorneys listed on this complaint.

    We intend to fight the Government’s lawsuit, get our business going, get our cash flowing again and get our money back. To that end, we would like to hire Larry Friedman. We are asking every Member to join with us. Where possible, we ask you to contribute to our “war chest.” Larry has agreed to commence representation once we deposit a $100,000 retainer in the “ASD Membership Legal Defense Fund” trust account. As you know, good representation is expensive. This litigation may cost a lot more. We would like to raise several hundred thousand dollars to be kept in the trust account, which would be refundable if not used.

    Please respond to this email, letting us know we can include you as a named Intervenor on the pleadings. This action will represent every Member of ASD and we trust we can count on your financial support. We are asking for a minimum contribution of $500 per member, but welcome any amount, large or small. Every member that joins our group will be represented by Mr. Friedman.

    Please make your checks payable to “Friedman & Feiger”, indicate your ASD member name and ID number on the check and overnight the check to:

    Friedman & Feiger, LLP
    “ASD Membership Legal Fund”
    5301 Spring Valley Road, Suite 200,
    Dallas, Texas 75254.

    Your may also wire the funds directly to the defense fund trust account at:

    Friedman & Feiger, LLP Trust Under the IOLTA Program
    Inwood National Bank
    Dallas, Texas 75209
    Acct # 211107762 ABA # 111 001 040

    ***************UNQUOTE*************

    As you can see, it was a trust, and in Larry Friedman’s name and hands.
    Can anyone inquire with Inwood National bank as to who, besides Mr. Friedman
    and Mr. Feiger, was authorized to withdraw funds from the account number listed?

    The above quote is attributed to a “Joseph Shoop” in several forums. Perhaps the same man that Mr. Guenther told Professor Higgins that he got a… 5 figure, wasn’t it… refund for?

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  14. Regarding the April 14, 2009 “Hearing”, be sure and check back after 4:30pm on the 14th..

    Where’s Bob’s promised update?

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  15. Pat Dunn:

    Robert Guenther: Are you a”For Profit” site, or is this a public service or a 501 (c) 3 non-profit?? I can answer that one.. Internet Marketing….

    So, Mr. Guenther, with all due respect, it appears from this comment that you find something objectionable with the possibility that Patrick has found a way to profit from what he writes on this blog. And you infer that he does so at your expense.Hmmm….if profiting at the expense of others is “wrong”, then how would you define selling cars? Or becoming a participant in the ASD Ponzi and talking others into doing likwise? Or collecting funds from people to fund your attempt at gaining control/receivership of the ASD money? Or pitching people on enrolling in the latest best hot gaming/social-network Ponzi scheme? All those are things you’ve done to profit at the expense of others, correct? Why shouldn’t Patrick be able to do likewise?

    Read my comments again, all of them.. I find no problem at all with anyone making a profit.. All I asked of this internet medium was to ” REPORT FACTS”.. Wjhat is wrong with asking that??

    Obviously, from your comments, you are not informed as to what constitutes a “PONZI”…See below…

    http://www.fbi.gov/publications/fraud/securities_fraud

    Ponzi & Pyramid Schemes

    Use money collected from new victims to pay the high rates of return promised to earlier investors.
    Payouts give the impression of a legitimate, money-making enterprise behind the fraudster’s story.
    In reality, investors are the only source of funding.

    One has nothing to do with the other. If you purport to engage in “Journalism”, at the very least you should have the integrity to offer comments from both sides, and to verify your facts before you publish them..

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  16. Robert Guenther: Read my comments again, all of them.. I find no problem at all with anyone making a profit..

    Ahh, but Mr. Guenther, I’m now confused. With all due respect, you do seem to be saying you object to Patrick making a profit from his writing on this blog.

    Robert Guenther: Obviously, from your comments, you are not informed as to what constitutes a “PONZI”…See below…

    That’s an interesting comment Mr. Guenther. You see, when I was pitched on grtting into ASD it smelled to high heaven to me, for it was an obvious Ponzi. Therefore I didn’t enroll – nor did I lead anyone else into it. However, you publicly stated that you joined – and got others to join – for some significant amounts of money.

    And you’re now giving me lessons? Wow! I’d say that takes brass cajones, but that’s just my opinion.

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  17. Robert Guenther: Obviously, from your comments, you are not informed as to what constitutes a “PONZI”…See below…

    Which is why, I suppose, the charges against ASD/Bowdoin are:

    1) Wire fraud
    2) Money laundering
    3) conspiracy.

    Thus eliminating the discussions which invariably follow the demise of such frauds as to what constitutes a “ponzi” and why the prosecution has decided to not go down the SEC and “securities” route with regard to this prosecution.

    The game may be the same, it’s just that the authorities wave wised up and moved the goals.

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  18. You wont mind headlinging this will you??

    http://api.ning.com/files/y4XKaF043uWOJyiML80gCP*QIZUEXttLtTcODVbB14txCFmbIEznxTjDTA*PYbNMb9jeTanyqv5LzsoEnvHU8PI6VhL-PS1e/414200955643PM.jpg

    Guess if my traffic ticket was news this will be too..

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  19. Robert, the above needs to be corrected in order to make sense! What would the word headlinging be? Also, the ning web address you posted with that funny word, headlinging, leads to nowhere..

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  20. “We would like to raise several hundred thousand dollars to be kept in the trust account, which would be refundable if not used.”

    Dang Bob how did you intend to refund all the money that was left in the TRUST when you spend it as fast as it comes in for things other than what it was intended for?

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  21. Kathy,

    You have to copy and paste the whole thing into the IE Address bar and then it works……it is a screen shot of the Maricopa County Judicial Branch web site. This link will be easier to copy and paste since it does not have a hyperlink embedded:

    http://api.ning.com/files/y4XKaF043uWOJyiML80gCP*QIZUEXttLtTcODVbB14txCFmbIEznxTjDTA*PYbNMb9jeTanyqv5LzsoEnvHU8PI6VhL-PS1e/414200955643PM.jpg

    also, Bob meant headlining…..

    Kathy Matter: Robert, the above needs to be corrected in order to make sense! What would the word headlinging be? Also, the ning web address you posted with that funny word, headlinging, leads to nowhere..

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  22. We reported this yesterday.

    Patrick

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  23. Pat Dunn:

    Robert Guenther: Read my comments again, all of them.. I find no problem at all with anyone making a profit..

    Ahh, but Mr. Guenther, I’m now confused. With all due respect, you do seem to be saying you object to Patrick making a profit from his writing on this blog.

    Robert Guenther: Obviously, from your comments, you are not informed as to what constitutes a “PONZI”…See below…

    That’s an interesting comment Mr. Guenther. You see, when I was pitched on grtting into ASD it smelled to high heaven to me, for it was an obvious Ponzi. Therefore I didn’t enroll – nor did I lead anyone else into it. However, you publicly stated that you joined – and got others to join – for some significant amounts of money. And you’re now giving me lessons? Wow! I’d say that takes brass cajones, but that’s just my opinion.

    Wrong again, I never said I recruited anyone for ASD. In fact, 4 minutes after I put money in at Miami I demanded my money back pursuant to the 3 day rule in the admin rules.. A friend of mine, unbeknown to me, put in $27,500.. Fortunately it was by credit card and the transaction was cancelled. I did put $500 in for my son, so we could, early on and before Miami, learn the front and back end process..

    So if you didn’t join ASD, and you are not a ASDMBA member, what the hell are you doing nosing around ASD business, or making comments about a business you have no idea what you are talking about..

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