Our Hand In The Problem With ‘Pistol’

Dear Readers,

Many of you are familiar with “Pistol,” one of the posters here. In recent days, Pistol repeatedly sent us communications we deem harassing through our Comments form and our Contact form. When we didn’t submit to his hectoring, he published a video about us on YouTube.

The message, of course, is that if we don’t do as he says, he’ll dial up the harassment to extract the result he seeks.

Pistol has been banned at other sites for antisocial behavior. Some of it was mildly antisocial — steering threads off-topic in ways that squelched productive discussion and shifted attention to himself, for instance.

Some of it, however, was more than mildly antisocial — publishing videos that treated human beings like soulless, unfeeling objects incapable of redemption or even of having a teachable moment, for example.

Early on, we made a mistake by extending to Pistol the maximum benefit of the doubt that he would exercise some restraint and not disrupt things here. The early disruptions were somewhat minimal — Pistol occasionally promoted his videos by spamming in threads, for example.

Eventually, though, the disruptions grew in number, accompanied by an increase in toxicity. Despite his obvious intelligence, Pistol began to pose a daily maintenance problem for this Blog. If this were high school, he would be the brightest kid in the class, but also the most disruptive. Teachers would marvel out loud at his brain one moment, and want to march him to the principal’s office the next.

You knew that kid, right?  He was the one who knew the difference between “innumeracy” and “illiteracy” and couldn’t wait for the teacher to confuse the terms so he could scold her for not being as smart as he — or to hold her out as a case study in hypocrisy for presuming even to be a teacher when she could not demonstrate perfect vocabulary at all times.

The problem with Pistol is that he licenses himself to walk into a house and, ultimately — sorry about this, readers — vomit all over the floor.

If you ask him politely to stop, he feigns obtuseness and then engages in sarcasm or passive-aggressive posturing, all the while insisting it’s all justifiable because he doesn’t suffer fools gladly. We recognized our own role in the insanity a few weeks ago, when we found ourselves asking this grown man not to vomit on our floor.

If you’re going around asking an adult not to vomit on your floor, well, you’re the problem. We were wrong to think we could finesse this. An adult who presumes the right to soil your floor needs to be dispatched to the curb, not to be coddled. We should have dispatched him weeks ago.

Pistol has a score to settle with us now — and now we have joined a long line of people he has pilloried on YouTube and elsewhere. Last week we deleted a few posts in which he was being deliberately obtuse, disruptive, disingenuous, baiting and just plain mean to other posters here.

As is his way, Pistol now wants the discussion to digress into a discussion over the meaning of the word “mean.” Other posters also are guilty of meanness, he suggests, and yet their meanness is tolerated so long as it is directed at, say, Pistol or autosurf promoters.

In other words, “Johnny did it! Why can’t I!” This from a man who purports to detest foolishness while using the playground arguments of a child. It’s Pistol’s way of letting us know we haven’t achieved perfection in moderating a Blog, rather like the teacher who confuses innumeracy and illiteracy.

A small number of our posters are less thoughtful in their responses to autosurf supporters than we’d prefer them to be. At the same time, some ASD and AVG posters are less thoughtful to autosurf critics than we’d prefer them to be. No matter what side of the issue these posters are on, however, they do not pose the maintenance challenge Pistol presents — and, of course, he knows this.

One of our posters — one Pistol has pilloried in video — used some choice language after being provoked by Pistol here — and Pistol responded by dialing up the provocation, essentially arguing that posters also must be etymologists.

Pistol, of course, understands the roots of language and the power of words, which is why he uses the handle “Pistol.”

We did not publish Pistol’s responses to the poster’s response to Pistol. Pistol started the problem, provided the fuel for it to escalate, and now asserts disingenuously that this Blog is engaging in censorship.

In other words, Pistol is a victim.

Two days ago it simply became too much work to deal with the maintenance problems Pistol creates. On one hand, Pistol purports not to suffer fools gladly. On the other, he subjects this Blog regularly to his own foolishness.

So, we adjusted our software settings to direct everything Pistol submits to a holding queue. Pistol responded by subjecting us to even more foolishness

We soon heard from “Pistol’sPal,” for example — more foolishness from a man who says he cannot suffer fools gladly.

Yesterday we were hit by this foolishness:

'Pistol' skewers PP on YouTube

'Pistol' skewers PP on YouTube

Pistol wrote to us Saturday morning through our Contact form, presenting the URL for a YouTube video he had created to skewer us.

“Enjoy!” he said.

Here is the URL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKSoQyiAGlk

After Pistol used the Contact form, he submitted another post headlined “THE THIRD ATTEMPT.”

The strategy, if it can be called that, appeared to be to nuisance this Blog into publishing his comments. When that didn’t work, the strategy shifted to producing a YouTube video — basically, publish my comments or expect to see yourself pilloried on YouTube.

When that didn’t work, the strategy reverted back to haranguing: “THE THIRD ATTEMPT” means that two prior attempts to get a comment published  failed: The message: Play my game or you might not like the consequences. It is, among other things, both extortive and foolish.

All this foolishness . . . from a poster who purports not to suffer fools gladly.

What Pistol seems unwilling to do is forgive any human foibles. Some of our posters, for example, are former ASD members who have “seen the light” and now post here and elsewhere to help people steer clear of scams. Pistol has pilloried some of them in videos.

Beyond that, though, Pistol regularly skewers them here, while at once insisting he opposes scams. He is attacking people who are trying to help, using flaws and imperfections he perceives to demean their worth as human beings.

The message: How can they now presume to be teachers — or to have any worth at all?

Other posters here never had anything to do with ASD or AVG, but work to educate and inform the public about scams. Pistol skewers them, too, dismissing or ignoring the value they add and focusing on what he perceives to be their imperfections as human beings.

Every appeal we’ve made to the greater angels of his nature has been met with hostility and obtuseness.

Ever wonder why there are relatively few Blogs and forums that cover autosurf scams? One of the reasons is that there is no money in it. Another is that you pay a price — from the scammers themselves, and from the Pistols of the world, who purport to detest scams while derailing the efforts of people who are trying to do something about them.

Here is the math:

In April, we paid a bill for $153.52 for our PACER subscription. In January our PACER bill was $62. There are other expenses associated with running this Blog, including the enormous investment in time. This story, for example, took two weeks to research and report, and we had to pay for certain documents. We reviewed hundreds of pages of records.

This Blog has generated $448.22 in total revenue year-to-date. May revenue was $70.70.  Our “pay” is pennies per day — if that.

And now Pistol, who purports not to suffer fools gladly and to detest autosurf scams and scammers, has joined with them in spreading the lie that this Blog is lining its pockets with advertising fees.

With respect to Pistol and his participation on the PatrickPretty.com Blog, we gave him way too much latitude.

We apologize to readers for doing so.

This Blog is not written for people who agree with our point of view; it is written for the “CORRECTIONs” of the surf world, even though we know CORRECTION and other surf supporters never may agree with us.

But we also know we have made a difference in the lives of people once immersed in the convoluted world of the autosurf, and watching their thought processes evolve has provided joy.

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

Patrick

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31 Responses to “Our Hand In The Problem With ‘Pistol’”

  1. Another is that you pay a price — from the scammers themselves, and from the Pistols of the world, who purport to detest scams while derailing the efforts of people who are trying to do something about them.

    This is the real justification that most people have for banning UF, Pistol, Hugh Organ or whatever he is calling himself today, from their forums or blogs. His meanness only reflects on him, and noone else, and is relatively harmlesss.

    These blogs and forums are written, for the most part, to warn people of scams and to educate and inform. The Festas of the world and their scornful posts, unfortunately, have the opposite effect and are, counter productive in the anti-scam world. And as one of his favorite “victims” I am in a position to say this.LOL

    Many moons ago, when I was promoting ASD, I ventured onto another forum, full of so called professionals. The invective and derogatory personal comments from some of these so called professionals were sufficient to convince me that I was right. In spite of their greater experience in this field, their arguments “negated themselves” in my eyes, because of their tone of ridicule ans scorn.

    They were, of course, right in their assessment of ASD as a ponzi. However, calling people trash, ponzi whores, drugged and comparing members of ASD to the nearest criminals to paedophiles was sufficiently excessive and alienated anyone who could have learnt from their experience – and so their posts were counter productive.

    The only thing that we can say is that, for all the UF’s of the world, there are, thank heavens, the Entertaineds, Gregg Evans, Patrick Prettys, Marcis, DBs and the countless others who share their information, without insults (well nearly without insults Gregg. lol) and give us the tools to understand and then teach others how to avoid these scams.

    And if we want to stop ponzi scams, we need to educate not insult.

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  2. “And if we want to stop ponzi scams, we need to educate not insult.”

    That is true unless you are dealing with the Robert Lee Guenther’s of the world.

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  3. Pistol;

    In your YouTube video in which you put words in Patrick’s mouth you, in effect, whine about the “free speech” aspect of how Patrick handles your posts. However, the concept of free speech doesn’t exist without limitation. For example, it’s illegal to shout “FIRE!” in a crowded theatre. Do so and you can be arrested (at least in the U.S.) Likewise, if you’re a guest in my home and use offensive language you will be asked to leave.

    Want better crops? Plant better seeds.

    Bottom line: Actions have consequences.

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  4. Hi, Patrick;

    It always amazes me that critics of those who create and administer forums and/or blogs attack the financial aspect of the Google ads. My perception is that what you do is highly valuable, and the notion that you can earn money doing what you do so well is a positive. I say BRAVO! to you for every dollar of revenue you generate. May it increase 100-fold!

    Pistol has a psychopathic need for attention. Let him get it in someone else’s house. Pistol, in all his various identities, has appeared on various forums with his venom. On scam.com I was able to simply click a button which blocked his posts, which helped immensely.

    My suggestion: Continue on, go forth and prosper, and treat the rantings of the fringe lunatics like what they are. Trash.

    If he can’t be banned because he keeps re-emerging under new identities, perhaps one or more of us can assist you with the cleanup efforts. Let us know.
    I for one will volunteer.

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  5. Hi Pat,

    Pat Dunn: It always amazes me that critics of those who create and administer forums and/or blogs attack the financial aspect of the Google ads.

    It’s standard fare for some of the folks in ASD or AVG.

    Remember Scambuster-Buster?

    He created the Scambuster-Buster username here, posted only in AVG threads, and then proceeded to suggest we were a Google scammer named “Cory.”

    He then led readers to believe we sold ads to the highest scam bidder, even though Google sells and beams the ads, and said he contacted Google and was told that one of the ads he saw on this site was a scam.

    So, in other words, he purported to have contacted Google — and Google told him over the phone or via email that, yes, an ad on this site was a scam.

    Of course, there would be a paper or records trail on that.

    Scambuster-Buster initially posted in two AVG threads and then followed it up with an email through our Contact form to make sure we saw his posts.

    He concluded his initial burst by stating he hadn’t accused of of anything — “yet.”

    “Yet,” of course, was a loaded word designed to put a chill in us. And the innuendo and posturing — suggesting we were a scammer named “Cory” and that he might let it out of the bag — was just plainly extortive.

    Scambuster-Buster made sure he contacted me a few more times — you know, so I would know he was out there ready to pounce if I didn’t jump through his hoops.

    AVG has some great spokespeople, unofficial or otherwise.

    Patrick

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  6. The worst thing you can do to someone like Festa is ignore both him and his silly videos. It is a highly recommended antidote and a satisfying way to achieve peace of mind.

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  7. Hi alasycia,

    alasycia: The worst thing you can do to someone like Festa is ignore both him and his silly videos. It is a highly recommended antidote and a satisfying way to achieve peace of mind.

    There are a couple of specific reasons we couldn’t ignore this. One of them deals with something Pistol said in the video. We have reported the incident.

    Patrick

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  8. Hi Pat,

    Pat Dunn: If he can’t be banned because he keeps re-emerging under new identities, perhaps one or more of us can assist you with the cleanup efforts. Let us know.
    I for one will volunteer.

    This is very gracious of you, and is much appreciated.

    Thank you.

    Patrick

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  9. Patrick, Thank you for all of your hard work and effort that you put into this forum for little to no compensation whatsoever. Your writing style along with the information that you put together, is truly appreciated by myself and others. The investigative skills and time that it takes to research much of this indeed takes alot of time.

    Many of the people that post here have valuable information to offer and had I not found this forum through Jenny, I may have been one of those that are still crying about the evil government. Who knows?

    Again, a big Thank You and hope that you have been having a wonderful Father’s Day. Whether a biological child, or any other children in your life, you seem to be a man of integrity and honesty and would be a great role model.

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  10. I commend you, Patrick, for having such kindness and patience while dealing with uncle festa/pistol.You went out of your way to give him the benefit of doubt. As you have come to realize, this person takes advantage of any latitude you allow him (maybe her, we really don’t know). On the biz forum, festa/hugh jorgan and the MANY other alias used, takes up more than half of all the banned member list! There have been times when this person, once banned, re-registered 12 more times the very same day with purpose only to challenge the moderator.

    I know it is not the purpose of this forum, but one has to wonder what motivates this person to spend hours upon hours creating mean spirited cartoons and posts using our forum/blog contributors as material for his nasty folly? His claim recently that he has been at this for seven years was most disturbing..again, you have to wonder just what happened to this man? None of it is normal!

    Thank you for the post..it is most appreciated by EVERYONE

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  11. Patrick,

    Pistol is the grain of sand in the oyster and you’re the pearl. No sand, no pearl. We know who is providing balanced reporting and who is engaging in childish rants. You can’t rebut the nonsense spewed by Pistol and Correction if you don’t keep up with it, so I recommend letting the ranters post here, and allow folks make up their own minds. (Those who have them, that is.)

    You do an outstanding job for little remuneration (for now), but then again you do have Maddy. What more could you ask for (except that we could all get a Maddy clone)? If I spelled her name wrong, tell her I apologize and give her a skritch behind the ears from me.

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  12. Paid To Surf
    I Make $10-$20K+ Every Month Proven System. I’ll Teach You How.
    Brian4Wealth.com

    Note: Here’s one of “your”Google ads. Won’t this “Paid to Surf” company be totally bummed when they realize where their Google ad dollars were spent??

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  13. Hi Cathy G,

    Cathy G.: Again, a big Thank You and hope that you have been having a wonderful Father’s Day.

    Your thoughtful note is much appreciated.

    Thank you.

    Patrick

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  14. Hi Kathy,

    Kathy: You went out of your way to give him the benefit of doubt. As you have come to realize, this person takes advantage of any latitude you allow him (maybe her, we really don’t know). On the biz forum, festa/hugh jorgan and the MANY other alias used, takes up more than half of all the banned member list! There have been times when this person, once banned, re-registered 12 more times the very same day with purpose only to challenge the moderator.

    Thanks for your note. As you know, some people practically LIVE to create work for forum Mods.

    Patrick

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  15. Hi Marci,

    Marci: I Make $10-$20K+ Every Month Proven System. I’ll Teach You How.
    Brian4Wealth.com

    I can add that URL to my block list. The Google advertisers pick keywords based on content, and the ads are delivered on that basis.

    It is possible that ads that are inappropriate for this Blog appear here from time to time. Some people, for example, could target the word “scam” to trigger an ad or “surf” — words of that nature.

    Patrick

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  16. Hello Marci,

    Marci: you do have Maddy. What more could you ask for (except that we could all get a Maddy clone)? If I spelled her name wrong, tell her I apologize and give her a skritch behind the ears from me.

    Maddy and I spent Father’s Day mowing the lawn. She has a trotting area in the side yard, and she just loves mowing day — except for when I disappear behind the house.

    Poor girl gets a bit confused and thinks I may not be coming back.

    It’s all the “small things” — the pure joy she gets out of things such as pine cones and small clumps of grass.

    The best new one now is lightning bugs. She sees one . . . and then another . . . and then another, and doesn’t really know which one to chase. :-)

    I’ll tell her you said hi.

    Patrick

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  17. Another tactic of serial scammers is to set their meta tags so that if you try to google “Scam” and the name of the program, you will get a promoters site, often with a “neutral” evaluation that concludes, big surprise, that THIS program is the one that isn’t a scam.
    For instance, “Mrs VIP Scam” (a failed or failing ponzi scheme, depending on your credulity) will give you a few pages of mostly promoters of the scam.

    As for my favorite crazy uncle, well, what can I say. He thinks he’s clever because he found a software program that would amuse the average adolescent boy for a few hours and made it into his life’s work. He must be so proud.

    admin: Hi Marci,

    Marci: I Make $10-$20K+ Every Month Proven System. I’ll Teach You How.
    Brian4Wealth.com

    I can add that URL to my block list. The Google advertisers pick keywords based on content, and the ads are delivered on that basis.It is possible that ads that are inappropriate for this Blog appear here from time to time. Some people, for example, could target the word “scam” to trigger an ad or “surf” — words of that nature.Patrick

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  18. Thank you so much, Patrick, for the quality work that you do on this forum. Your work is truly appreciated. I wait with bated breath for your articles each day.

    Galatians 6:9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
    10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.
    (KJV)

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  19. Patrick:

    One of the marks of a successful enterprise is when “others” start with the slings and arrows against it to try and discredit it. The vast majority of the time their desired outcome backfires on them, and instead of hurting the enterprise they targeted the opposite effect happens. It drives more people to see what all the fuss is about, and then they realize the person complaining was full of it.

    While dealing with it is a royal pain in the assets at the time, it is a badge of honor. The comfort comes in the 99.9% who come here and get educated, and take away information that will save them from possible financial ruin in the future.

    As others have said, your work is admired by so many, and whether or not you know it, you have helped countless people from falling victim to a scam. Who knows, you might have put a little doubt in CORRECTION’s mind about AVGA being as real as he hopes it is. For I truly don’t think he believes it is, but it is mere hope on his part. In short emotion and feelings over substance, and emotion and feelings stop logical thought.

    I think you know that if you end up doing what all the other forums have done, you won’t have a tidal wave of dissenters vilifying your actions. Instead we would probably throw a ticker-tape parade. Some people should be seen, not heard. Just adding my two cents and appreciation for all you do.

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  20. Lynndel Edgington: Who knows, you might have put a little doubt in CORRECTION’s mind about AVGA being as real as he hopes it is

    Unfortunately for “Correction” (and anyone else in a similar position) having “doubts” at this time is not going to help anything, other than perhaps delaying or preventing any further input of “new” money.

    It is an irrefutable “law” the of HYIP and “autosurf” world that the ONLY people who “win” from “round 2” or “piggyback” and “follow on” programs are those “in the know” or “on the inside”

    Amongst the regular “playas” of the HYIP/autosurf world, it is commonly estimated there is a 95% to 5% Loser / Winner ratio amongst second round or “followup” players.

    AFAIK, there has NEVER been a “successful” follow up program to the major HYIP/autosurfs, either in terms of longevity or payouts to the 95% of members who are NOT “on the inside”

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  21. Cathy G, thanks for your comment. Although any post I might make on Surf’s Up is now deleted on sight and has an average shelf life of 35 minutes on line, I continued to post as long as possible because of people like you. There are many people who clearly have the intelligence to understand what is wrong with these ponzi schemes, but just need honest information. It is not always pleasant and one has to put up with the insults etc of the “believers and playas” as well as the UF’s of this world. It is worth it. Someone did it for me and so it is the only way that I can sincerely thank them and demonstrate that “pay it forward” is not just about promoting scams.

    In the case of Surfs Up and their posters insults to people trying to inform or deletion of same – this is clearly indicative of people with something to hide.

    It is for this reason that the Festas of this world are so counter productive to the work against scams – they use the same tactics or abuse and personal ridicule and because of that, the decent people caught up in these ponzis give them no credibility.

    There is a moral to this tale – if you genuinely wish to stop scams and stop people joining them – dont attack and ridicule them. Take the time and energy to EXPLAIN why they are going wrong.

    The second moral to this tale is that conmen ALWAYS lie and they do it very well. Which is why they are called confidence</b< tricksters and why they cause some much pain. The Festas of this world should wake up and realise this before they post their rubbish.

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  22. Thanks for finally taking out the trash.
    Though, I never get why you claim this clown is ‘intelligent’.
    I have yet to see it and that would make millions of Einsteins in the world.
    It is kind of an insult to people like “Entertained’ and such.
    Uncle fecal is nothing but an attention whore troll.
    He should have been gone long ago as he has been banished from other sites long ago.
    And, the ‘free speech’ argument does not apply to the private sector.

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  23. Hi Gregg,

    Gregg Evans: Another tactic of serial scammers is to set their meta tags so that if you try to google “Scam” and the name of the program, you will get a promoters site, often with a “neutral” evaluation that concludes, big surprise, that THIS program is the one that isn’t a scam.

    Some affiliate marketers are infamous for poisoning brands by using an approach similar to the one you describe above.

    Say XYZ Bank was a prominent brand with a 50-year track record of brick-and-mortar success, but was slow in establishing an online presence through which it could attract new depositors. Then say XYZ Bank decided to set aside $20 million to lure new customers, using the Internet. For 10 days, all new customers who opened an account online would get an opening deposit of $20 free, and people in the XYZ affiliate program would get $10 for each new customer they brought to the bank via an affiliate link.

    It is a virtual certainty that an affiliate would take out an ad that said something along these lines:

    1.) Is XYZ Bank A Scam?
    2.) Don’t Get Scammed By XYZ Bank

    So, a bank with a 50-year track record of success suddenly has its name associated with the word scam, because affiliate marketers want to drive the maximum amount of traffic to their affiliate links to pile up those $10 affiliate commissions.

    What the affiliates care about is the $10 commission. They don’t care about the damage they are doing to the brand. They plant the seed that it might be a scam, even when it’s not a scam, to harvest the traffic. They get their commissions and move on to poison another brand.

    Then there is the harmful affiliate approach that is similar to the one you outlined above. These affiliates know the program they’re hawking is a scam, but still want the commissions. So they take out, say, an ad that poses a question about “Surf4YourNewHouse.”

    “Is Surf4YourNewHouse A Scam?” Then, as you say, the affiliate will explain why the program is not a scam, knowing full well it is a scam.

    One of the reasons ASD amassed tens of millions of dollars practically overnight is because of the “Legality Statement.” Promoters could take out an ad that raised the prospect of a scam, and then explain that a lawyer issued an express statement that the program was legal.

    All of that gets mixed in with Andy Bowdoin’s bogus White House award and the purported “agreement” with Google, and before long affiliate scammers are promoting a scam that:

    1.) Provides a certain amount of cover, given the legality statement from an actual lawyer.
    2.) Has an air of legitimacy because of the purported White House award.
    3.) Trades on Google’s name (while at the same time, claiming the ASD program is better than Google).

    There was a report in the Washington Post yesterday that the FTC was going to start cracking down on affiliate marketers who used Blogs to author shill “reviews” and did not reveal they held some kind of insider status in the programs or were being paid to shill.

    Think about the problems AVG members could encounter if they hawked the program on Blogs and never mentioned the ASD litigation or the fact that two Bowdoin family members identified as beneficiaries of illegal acts by ASD are trustees of AVG.

    Right now, some of the AVG founders and forum shills are imploring the rank-and-file to bring in new members so the daily payout rate can increase, which is a virtual admission that the program is a Ponzi scheme and that money from “new” members is being used to pay older members.

    But they apparently haven’t connected the dots.

    Patrick

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  24. AVGA shills may not have connected the dots yet, but they now have an enormous difficulty promoting online, because many others have, and presumably that includes the authorities.

    Blogs like this one and other anti scam forums are very much needed and are still one of the only sources of warnings to the general internet public about these scams, until the various governments start to implement realistic legislation to control them.

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  25. Hi Lynn,

    Your words of encouragement are much appreciated. Thank you.

    I expect the surf promoters to come here and to offer their explanations and criticism, of course. I’ve been called a lot of names over these months. :-)

    It’s significantly different with Pistol, though. He rails against scams and scammers, and then poisons the well in the fashion alasycia describes and ultimately helps the scammers cloud the issues.

    Most of our readers can see through that, but it still creates work. In a sense, it’s like walking on eggshells. If a poster uses a word Pistol can disingenuously parse, you have to make a call whether to publish it at the risk of destroying discussion. And if you don’t publish it, then you have to deal with the things that occur out of sight of readers.

    Thanks again for the note, Lynn.

    Patrick

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  26. Hi Martin,

    Martin: I wait with bated breath for your articles each day.

    Kudos for “bated.” :-)

    And thank you for the kind note and thoughts.

    Patrick

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  27. Hi LRM,

    littleroundman: Unfortunately for “Correction” (and anyone else in a similar position) having “doubts” at this time is not going to help anything, other than perhaps delaying or preventing any further input of “new” money.

    Indeed, the call is out for old members to go forth and bring in “new” members, so it can be kicked back to the old members unhappy about the “low” daily payout rate.

    Patrick

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  28. Hi Whip,

    Whip: ‘intelligent’.

    I do think Pistol is intelligent. My reasoning for letting him post here was to let him know I valued his human dignity — a dignity he wasn’t willing to extend to others.

    Thanks for the note.

    Patrick

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  29. So it looks like we can conclude that, in spite of whatever intelligence he may or may not have, Festa’s contributions to these pages are more trouble than they are worth.

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  30. Hey Patrick and Pistol R.I.P.

    I agree with running a site and the costs associated with it. I have the same pacer charges. I have spent hundreds of hours updating my Ad Surf Daily page… All for free. However, I do not but a spin on my news, I just post it and let others digest it and decern it for themselves.

    About Google Adsense, I’m currently receiving about 350 hits a day. Every week this number is going down. I make maybe 40 bucks a month now unlike before during the months of August and February I was receiving about 100,000 hits a month..During the sites frenzy, I never had any other program on my site for people to join other than Zen Zuu, and a few other ones… GDI i think… yes.. All the while, other sites were recruiting members into Ad View Global, Biz Ad Splash, AdGate, and the others… (I still believed there was hope for ASD)

    To make a long story short, I missed the Queen Mary recruiting boat; However, I was able to acquire a small sailboat near the end. So when Pistol attacks me of being a Ponzi Pimp, thats not exactly the case. If I am a Ponzi pimp, i drive a Volkswagon, and my suit is polyester. Let me put it another way, I could not live on what my site brings in nor my programs. I would have starved to death months ago! However, the “smart one”, thinks I’m rolling in the dough. and again, another fallacious observation without facts.Furthermore, I have spent about 80 hours total making Youtube Videos for Biz Ad Splash members, once again the “smart one” looks at my 70 Videos and thinks, “SOB” this guy is bigger than I thought! When in reality, its just the opposite.. Now how smart is the “smart one?”

    Here’s Pistol’s Video copy of one of my Biz Ad Splash Transaction Calculator…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvERCSGxzlI&feature=channel
    Now here’s the sad reality, my partner David and myself programmed the application and have sold how many to date? 6… thats 60 bucks for him and 60 for me… now divide that into 5 days… 12 bucks a day! But the “brilliant one” see’s more.. he see’s all the website links to the calculator and thinks, “SOB” this guy is making tons of money! I wish it where the case, but once again I spent about 4 days adding links to various blogs, sites, forums, and the rest…

    The Smart one should not believe everything he sees… It’s not logical and falls into fallacious reasoning. Pistol falls under fallacy of division: For example, Pistol heads out early in the morning for a trip up North. Never having made the trip before, he stops in the morning and gases up his AMC pacer and darts up North. He doesn’t stop at all but for gasoline. After driving 600 miles he pulls over and calculates his gas mileage, avg MPH, and even the distance betweens gas ups. He concludes the following: 20 miles to the gallon, averaging 70 miles per hour, and 68.9 miles between gas stations. He starts the Pacer back up and spins his wheels darting off.. His wife in the car says, “Hey Pistol, lets stop at this gas station and gas up.” He tells her not too worry, there’s another one up the road about 60 miles. We have plenty of gas. Well, they camped in the car that night as you might have suspected.

    I don’t understand your reasoning to PISTOL being smart. Now he might very well be a smart ass, but not smart. he might be gifted in writing like you, but to suggest your making money from advertising is a joke.. He doesn’t understand the basics of google adsense and how it works… Not going to get into that here… but intelligence is based upon knowledge of subject matter. And to be highly intelligent that person must be well rounded in many subjects. Pistol is not highly intelligent because of his lack of understanding in many areas. Pistol needs to study what he attacks first. Then attack. He’s attack happy maybe *LOL*

    A comment to Pistols videos.

    They are redundant, every one of them. Same monotone voice plays. He merely copies the victims images and adjusts the morphing technique to eyes and the mouth…

    Steve

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  31. Steve,

    I applaud you for posting the truth wrt ASD on your site.

    Not to take Pistol’s side, but it seems incongruous that you should so actively promote another Ponzi scheme (Biz Ad Splash) so openly while at the same time reporting on (and condemning) the ASD Ponzi. Several of your supporters at the ning site are disappointed. I have offered a hypothetical explanation, but care to offer your own? Why do you try to drawn more victims into BAS???

    Then, in this post, you go on to lament the fact that you did not heavily recruit for these new Ponzi schemes when you had the chance. While it is noble that you did not recruit, you sort of burstthat bubble with your lamenting (as in “oh, woe is me! I could have made lits of money from more victims IF ONLY I had tried harder….” Steve, they are not “programs,” they are illegal scams. You seem like a pretty bright guy — why don’t you try legal businesses for a change?

    Steve: Hey Patrick and Pistol R.I.P………To make a long story short, I missed the Queen Mary recruiting boat; However, I was able to acquire a small sailboat near the end. So when Pistol attacks me of being a Ponzi Pimp, thats not exactly the case. If I am a Ponzi pimp, i drive a Volkswagon, and my suit is polyester. Let me put it another way, I could not live on what my site brings in nor my programs. I would have starved to death months ago! However, the “smart one”, thinks I’m rolling in the dough. and again, another fallacious observation without facts.Furthermore, I have spent about 80 hours total making Youtube Videos for Biz Ad Splash members, once again the “smart one” looks at my 70 Videos and thinks, “SOB” this guy is bigger than I thought! When in reality, its just the opposite.. Now how smart is the “smart one?” Here’s Pistol’s Video copy of one of my Biz Ad Splash Transaction Calculator…

    Now here’s the sad reality, my partner David and myself programmed the application and have sold how many to date? 6… thats 60 bucks for him and 60 for me… now divide that into 5 days… 12 bucks a day! But the “brilliant one” see’s more.. he see’s all the website links to the calculator and thinks, “SOB” this guy is making tons of money! I wish it where the case, but once again I spent about 4 days adding links to various blogs, sites, forums, and the rest…Steve

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