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	<title>Comments on: EDITORIAL: Members Turn On Each Other As 11th Hour Dawns For Andy Bowdoin And AdSurfDaily Inc.</title>
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		<title>By: dirty_bird</title>
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		<dc:creator>dirty_bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-5772&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-5772&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;alasycia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: I spotted that the site was down today.In now looks as if Steve Ray Smith may win the race with the Government and is the one who closes Ad-ventures4U down before they get there to do it themselves.

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It was payday today so people were anxious about the payouts and had to surf so I bet traffic was a bit high today.  They are solving that problem.  According to Steve and another AV4U admin over at MMG, you are required to surf 10 sites per day now rather than 77.  That should help with the congestion for a bit.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-5772" rel="nofollow">alasycia</a></strong>: I spotted that the site was down today.In now looks as if Steve Ray Smith may win the race with the Government and is the one who closes Ad-ventures4U down before they get there to do it themselves.</p>
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<p>It was payday today so people were anxious about the payouts and had to surf so I bet traffic was a bit high today.  They are solving that problem.  According to Steve and another AV4U admin over at MMG, you are required to surf 10 sites per day now rather than 77.  That should help with the congestion for a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Don - possible secret government agent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don - possible secret government agent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading Mike Mason&#039;s latest attempt at investigative journalism, I now understand why he went into real estate. How can anyone compare Google AdSense to ASD? There is no comparison. Google never promised 100 or 200 percent matches on ad purchases for you and your sponsor. I could compare ASD to Shell Oil, but that doesn&#039;t mean they are comparable. 

I&#039;d also like to know what three new experts Murray found and how he presented evidence to Her Honor outside of a hearing and during negotiations he is in. Maybe I don&#039;t understand the judicial system, but something seems out of order here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading Mike Mason&#8217;s latest attempt at investigative journalism, I now understand why he went into real estate. How can anyone compare Google AdSense to ASD? There is no comparison. Google never promised 100 or 200 percent matches on ad purchases for you and your sponsor. I could compare ASD to Shell Oil, but that doesn&#8217;t mean they are comparable. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to know what three new experts Murray found and how he presented evidence to Her Honor outside of a hearing and during negotiations he is in. Maybe I don&#8217;t understand the judicial system, but something seems out of order here.</p>
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		<title>By: alasycia</title>
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		<dc:creator>alasycia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spotted that the site was down today.  In now looks as if Steve Ray Smith may win the race with the Government and is the one who closes Ad-ventures4U down before they get there to do it themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spotted that the site was down today.  In now looks as if Steve Ray Smith may win the race with the Government and is the one who closes Ad-ventures4U down before they get there to do it themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: A Random Walk Rant</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Random Walk Rant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the beat goes on...........

More &quot;Site Problems&quot; at AD4U.

Those of you &quot;die hard believers&quot; and online ostriches get used to it.

Ad4U is following the ponzi timeline perfectly, there will be many site outages in the future, coupled with other innovative excuses, family illnesses, lack of member faith and dedication and a few innovative things that will be forthcoming.

Sad but true.

ARWR

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Tuesday, August 18th

From Steve Smith at AD4U:

We are sorry but we had an issue this morning with the site. THis was beyond our control, so we are working extremely hard to be completely up and running.

So give us some time and all will be fine soon.

http://ad-ventures4u.com thanks Steve Smith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the beat goes on&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>More &#8220;Site Problems&#8221; at AD4U.</p>
<p>Those of you &#8220;die hard believers&#8221; and online ostriches get used to it.</p>
<p>Ad4U is following the ponzi timeline perfectly, there will be many site outages in the future, coupled with other innovative excuses, family illnesses, lack of member faith and dedication and a few innovative things that will be forthcoming.</p>
<p>Sad but true.</p>
<p>ARWR</p>
<p>************************<br />
Tuesday, August 18th</p>
<p>From Steve Smith at AD4U:</p>
<p>We are sorry but we had an issue this morning with the site. THis was beyond our control, so we are working extremely hard to be completely up and running.</p>
<p>So give us some time and all will be fine soon.</p>
<p><a href="http://ad-ventures4u.com" rel="nofollow">http://ad-ventures4u.com</a> thanks Steve Smith</p>
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		<title>By: dirty_bird</title>
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		<dc:creator>dirty_bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-5757&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-5757&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;alasycia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Oh Boy.After all the fuss about names, the only thing that remains is to misquote Gilbert and Sullivan -“A Mod’raters’ lot is not a happy one”.DB- I guess that you had better stick to posting as the Dirty Bird we know and love in future.lolPeople like UF, with their 3 new Ids per day, cause more problems for forum owners than the rest of the internet population put together.I guess it will be the subject for yet another unwatched video of his.

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Agreed.  I was a mod on WWSN and UF took exception to one of the members using racist slurs.  We filtered the offensive words but the poster just kept using similar words and I was not about to ban half the English language or spend half my time in a battle with the racist.  The best I could do was condemn the posters behavior which did not placate UF.  Not that I cared about UF or his opinion but racism is odious.

I have used dirty_bird for years on the scam related forums and plan to until and unless I have a reason to dump it.  In my first forum, I was using a moniker I have used since I have been online but I somehow offended the rabid anti-scammers by requesting they substantiate some allegations....and they tried to &quot;out&quot; me.  These fools were advocating physical action against those they felt were scammers.  Hence the separation from my other moniker.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-5757" rel="nofollow">alasycia</a></strong>: Oh Boy.After all the fuss about names, the only thing that remains is to misquote Gilbert and Sullivan -“A Mod’raters’ lot is not a happy one”.DB- I guess that you had better stick to posting as the Dirty Bird we know and love in future.lolPeople like UF, with their 3 new Ids per day, cause more problems for forum owners than the rest of the internet population put together.I guess it will be the subject for yet another unwatched video of his.</p>
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<p>Agreed.  I was a mod on WWSN and UF took exception to one of the members using racist slurs.  We filtered the offensive words but the poster just kept using similar words and I was not about to ban half the English language or spend half my time in a battle with the racist.  The best I could do was condemn the posters behavior which did not placate UF.  Not that I cared about UF or his opinion but racism is odious.</p>
<p>I have used dirty_bird for years on the scam related forums and plan to until and unless I have a reason to dump it.  In my first forum, I was using a moniker I have used since I have been online but I somehow offended the rabid anti-scammers by requesting they substantiate some allegations&#8230;.and they tried to &#8220;out&#8221; me.  These fools were advocating physical action against those they felt were scammers.  Hence the separation from my other moniker.</p>
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		<title>By: dirty_bird</title>
		<link>http://patrickpretty.com/2009/08/14/editorial-members-turn-on-each-other-as-11th-hour-dawns-for-andy-bowdoin-and-adsurfdaily-inc/comment-page-2/#comment-5759</link>
		<dc:creator>dirty_bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-5756&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Don&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: dirty_bird,no, the problem was you were mistaken as a new alias for UncleFesta, who is banned immediately, just because. It may have been your email address used. Try it now…

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Ah, Ok.  I can login now.  Can I post without being banned?</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-5756" rel="nofollow">Don</a></strong>: dirty_bird,no, the problem was you were mistaken as a new alias for UncleFesta, who is banned immediately, just because. It may have been your email address used. Try it now…</p>
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<p>Ah, Ok.  I can login now.  Can I post without being banned?</p>
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		<title>By: alasycia</title>
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		<dc:creator>alasycia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Boy.  After all the fuss about names, the only thing that remains is to misquote Gilbert and Sullivan -  &quot;A Mod&#039;raters&#039; lot is not a happy one&quot;.  DB- I guess that you had better stick to posting as the Dirty Bird we know and love in future.lol

People like UF, with their 3 new Ids per day, cause more problems for forum owners than the rest of the internet population put together.  I guess it will be the subject for yet another unwatched video of his.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Boy.  After all the fuss about names, the only thing that remains is to misquote Gilbert and Sullivan &#8211;  &#8220;A Mod&#8217;raters&#8217; lot is not a happy one&#8221;.  DB- I guess that you had better stick to posting as the Dirty Bird we know and love in future.lol</p>
<p>People like UF, with their 3 new Ids per day, cause more problems for forum owners than the rest of the internet population put together.  I guess it will be the subject for yet another unwatched video of his.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dirty_bird,  no, the problem was you were mistaken as a new alias for UncleFesta, who is banned immediately, just because. It may have been your email address used. Try it now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dirty_bird,  no, the problem was you were mistaken as a new alias for UncleFesta, who is banned immediately, just because. It may have been your email address used. Try it now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dirty_bird</title>
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		<dc:creator>dirty_bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-5740&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-5740&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;alasycia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: db, are you sure you dont mean the ASD Members Forum - otherwise known as Surfs Up? Rational posters like you dont usually get banned from ASD Biz. On the other hand, one word that varies from the Party Line or a name that worries them for being NEGATIVE (like yours truly) can guarantee to get a post deleted, if not a total banning! lol
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Nope, it was the ASD Business Information Zone.  I think Kathy had a thing about me at one time.  Too many questions or something like that so I got banned.   Fast forward and I registered, posted twice and was banned rather quickly.  My posts just asked people to chill while Mason got up to speed, if that is his intention.

I thought that SW was a mod and banned me since we had a bit of a dust up the other day so the timing was perfect.  But I remembered wrong.  That doesn&#039;t mean emails or pm&#039;s weren&#039;t sent but whatever, it&#039;s not a big deal.

Usually, ASDBIZ is fairly open and both Jack and Bob get to trade barbs.  I guess that I am not cool enough to belong to their club...</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-5740" rel="nofollow">alasycia</a></strong>: db, are you sure you dont mean the ASD Members Forum &#8211; otherwise known as Surfs Up? Rational posters like you dont usually get banned from ASD Biz. On the other hand, one word that varies from the Party Line or a name that worries them for being NEGATIVE (like yours truly) can guarantee to get a post deleted, if not a total banning! lol
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<p>Nope, it was the ASD Business Information Zone.  I think Kathy had a thing about me at one time.  Too many questions or something like that so I got banned.   Fast forward and I registered, posted twice and was banned rather quickly.  My posts just asked people to chill while Mason got up to speed, if that is his intention.</p>
<p>I thought that SW was a mod and banned me since we had a bit of a dust up the other day so the timing was perfect.  But I remembered wrong.  That doesn&#8217;t mean emails or pm&#8217;s weren&#8217;t sent but whatever, it&#8217;s not a big deal.</p>
<p>Usually, ASDBIZ is fairly open and both Jack and Bob get to trade barbs.  I guess that I am not cool enough to belong to their club&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: alasycia</title>
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		<dc:creator>alasycia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact the only reason I can see for real names to be important is if want to sue someone, or the Government wants to find you and they usually have adecuate ways of doing so, without your name and address appearing on the world wide web. lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact the only reason I can see for real names to be important is if want to sue someone, or the Government wants to find you and they usually have adecuate ways of doing so, without your name and address appearing on the world wide web. lol</p>
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