An AdSurfDaily Imponderable: ‘Ad-Packs’ As Currency

All sorts of incongruities dot the AdSurfDaily landscape. Perhaps none is odder than this:

Some ASD members say currency issued by the U.S. government is fraudulent, that the Federal Reserve is a fraud, that Federal Reserve Notes are a sham and not “money” because gold and silver coins are the only real money — and yet they seem to have no problem at all with the concept of “ad-packs” as currency.

Andy Bowdoin was not paying them in silver and gold — and they nevertheless were happy to receive their money, which they incongruously claim elsewhere to be Unconstitutional.

“Ad-packs” always have made news, but perhaps particularly when prosecutors revealed ASD was paying certain employees in “ad-packs.” There was no hue and cry from the Federal Reserve conspiracy theorists, even though “ad-packs” aren’t backed by silver and gold and have no street value, Constitutional or otherwise.

They are not redeemable at, say, the neighborhood kid’s sidewalk Kool-Aid stand.

A kid might take a silver coin or a gold coin — but he or she ain’t gonna take no stinkin’ “ad-packs.” You gotta show a kid the money, not a theory. Any money that spends at the Mall will do.

Did you know a man who was paying employees in “ad-packs” any kid running a Kool-Aid stand would reject as unacceptably risky got an award from the President of the United States for business acumen? If not, consult the literature of ASD promoters, who helped a lie on the institution of the Presidency go viral because a trusting widow in Florida with $10,000 in her bank account meant they might score a commission of $1,000.

No one raised a ruckus about Bowdoin treating “ad-packs” as currency — and the Federal Reserve conspiracy theorists presumably did not renounce the paper profits showing in their back offices because Bowdoin had not set aside a like amount in gold and silver to back his “ad-pack” notes.

If  paper money not backed by gold is a conspiracy, how could electronic “ad-packs” not backed by gold not also be one? Their value might not survive even a strong thunderstorm.

Call it the Bowdoin Standard.

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25 Responses to “An AdSurfDaily Imponderable: ‘Ad-Packs’ As Currency”

  1. Patrick, you’ve gone off the deep end. But it is very “Entertain-ing”.

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  2. I wonder what would happen if the Attorney General relented and “refunded” all the members their full entitlement of “ad packs” including bonus “ad packs” and extra “ad packs” to the value of their unrealized earnings.

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  3. That would be great, then everyone’s ads would run on a rotator that no one watched! Now that is “The Real Deal”!

    I think the judge should order Andy to have to sit and watch the rotaor until ALL adpacks have expired!

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  4. It seems I’ve lost a “T” somewhere…

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  5. Jeff Vavra: But it is very “Entertain-ing”.

    Saw your post on ASD-Biz that I’m “Entertained.”

    Not so, Jeff.

    On another matter, did you see where the Feds reportedly have audio and photographic evidence of the man who provided ASD debit cards accepting $100,000 and agreeing to launder “drug” proceeds in the Dominican Republic in a DEA sting?

    And did you see that the DEA got an indictment that says the cards were used by a drug cartel to offload $7.1 million in Medellin?

    Did you know that the debit cards were pitched in an ad for ASD that said ASD provided “shelter” from the FTC and the SEC and implied that ASD deposits were insured by the FDIC?

    You know, Jeff, I was respectful to you when you engaged me in debate here. But now YOU’VE gone off the deep end with your “Entertained” conspiracy theory and all this stuff about “maggots, cockroaches and rats.”

    People in your state are HURTING, Jeff. And they have uplines telling them that the government had been given until Aug. 28 to prove ASD was a Ponzi, which, of course, was a lie.

    Maggots? Cockroaches? Rats? If people disagree with you, then they’re one of these things — fly larvae, things to be crushed or killed with insecticide, vermin to be poisoned or crushed by traps?

    And you purported to be the voice of reason in a letter to a U.S. Senator?

    That you’d even think you or ASD somehow could glean any public support with this vulgar approach is a matter for great introspection — and members HAVE engaged in this introspection and decided that unrestrained vulgarity and the incomprehensible spinning of bad news was no substitute for the truth.

    Patrick

    P.S. Did you know one of the ASD members later announced as an AVG trustee once sued a bank in federal court over a mortgage foreclosure, purporting to have posted a bond of “twenty-one dollars in silver coinage?”

    He was in the credit-repair business.

    And did you know another prominent ASD figure also in the credit-repair business tried to have litigation opponents jailed by presenting fraudulent “warrants” for their arrest to the U.S. Marshals Service?

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  6. I am honored that you think I am Patrick! I don’t write nearly that well……

    Jeff Vavra: Patrick, you’ve gone off the deep end. But it is very “Entertain-ing”.

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  7. I’m Patrick too!

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  8. Actually, I’m really Patrick!

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  9. I’m Tiger Woods, wait, I mean Patrick Pretty.

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  10. Well if you all are going to be Patrick, I am Maddy – she gets the best treatment round here

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  11. Hopefully, I wasn’t too flippant. I was expressing my envy that I can’t write nearly as well as Patrick. I’m not even in the farm system.

    As Patrick noted and has been posted on this forum at times in vivid detail, people are hurting and that is very sad. It’s too bad that some have the “I got mine” attitude. I find it reprehensible.

    dirty_bird: I’m Patrick too!

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  12. No.. I AM SPARTACUS !!

    Jeff, you and Guenther share the same investigative skills, apparently. Might need to look into purchasing a road map, and a flashlight so that you might find your own buttocks. You two also share the ability ti rip of people, take their money, and have no conscience about doing it. Sociopaths UNITE!!!

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  13. Patrick: You will have to forgive poor Jeff. After all this time people defending ASD with the mantra, “Rebates are not Guaranteed,” now Jeff has said “Rebates are Guaranteed” on the Surf’s Up forum. He also believes ASD is legal, and was an outstanding business model. Of course he conveniently forgets that Andy, you know the guy who ran ASD and was too honest to testify, this great visionary and astute businessman said ASD was illegal. And let’s not forget Andy saying the money was all his, and Judge Collyer agreeing, but Jeff and crew still think it is “their money.”

    His lame dig at both you, Patrick, and Entertained shows when you can’t dispute facts, attack the messenger. It is still amazing that after all that has transpired, and all the statements by Andy ASD was illegal, the money is his, you still have people like Jeff, Jason, and a few others still denying any of this is true. Methinks they are going to find out very soon just how illegal ASD really was, and rue the day they ever heard of Andy Bowdoin and ASD. Just call it a “hunch.”

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  14. I am the choosen one

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  15. Steve, the word is “CHOSEN”…

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  16. Don: No, he had it right…..He’s been hanging around his new hero Steve Smith too long, and it has rubbed off on him. But I thought Steve said he was “cured?”

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  17. I’ve just dominated this this message board………WOW. You guys make me feel so powerful. I could be wrong about Patrick and Entertained being one in the same physically, but they are of the same mind. LOL

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  18. ….perhaps in one way Jeff…..we both agree on your criminal nature. Your actions define you. Hope Melissa’s proud…..

    Jeff Vavra: I’ve just dominated this this message board………WOW. You guys make me feel so powerful. I could be wrong about Patrick and Entertained being one in the same physically, but they are of the same mind. LOL

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  19. Jeff Vavra: I’ve just dominated this this message board………WOW. You guys make me feel so powerful. I could be wrong about Patrick and Entertained being one in the same physically, but they are of the same mind. LOL

    And that’s a bad thing?

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  20. I am the real Patrick Pretty. I chose a female personal to better throw my readers off the track. The other guys claiming to be me are imposters.

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  21. Well if you are the real Patrick Pretty, and because I am Maddy, please do me the favor of getting off this blog and feed me and take me for a walk! lol

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  22. alasycia: Well if you are the real Patrick Pretty, and because I am Maddy, please do me the favor of getting off this blog and feed me and take me for a walk! lol

    Well, when you said you had gone to the dogs, I didn’t think you meant it literally. Now I stand corrected. LOL!

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  23. Don – With an Agenda: No.. I AM SPARTACUS !! Jeff, you and Guenther share the same investigative skills, apparently. Might need to look into purchasing a road map, and a flashlight so that you might find your own buttocks. You two also share the ability ti rip of people, take their money, and have no conscience about doing it. Sociopaths UNITE!!!  (Quote)

    You must have some “Guenther” obsession. Leave my name out of this BS.. Everything I told you would happen, is happening.. You and your little foo foo ad-biz buds have nothing better to do than yak yak with your fingers.. When confronted with the truth you piss down you leg.. If you and your jerk off bud Jack didnt have the internet you two wouldn’t know what day of the week it is………

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  24. Once again, “Blowhard Bob” Guenther says nothing,

    but takes a bl**dy long time doing it.

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  25. Bob Guenther: Everything I told you would happen, is happening..

    Well,

    “everything” except the bit where I told you to send money because only I could get you a refund.

    OH,

    and except the bit where I told you I had proof ASD had a sustainable business model,

    OOPS,

    come to think of it, that thing I told you all about having Mr Cowdens’ ear,

    that wasn’t quite as true as I would have liked it to be.

    But,

    I’m still in there telling you the “truth” about the fact the AG and DoJ are lying about returning money and only I, Blowhard Bob Guenther am telling the “truth”

    Well, it’s “MY truth”, anyway.

    Which is not necessarily “THE” truth.

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