BREAKING NEWS UPDATE: New Pro Se Motion To Intervene In ASD Case Lists Phone Number Associated With ASD Figure Nate Boyd

UPDATED 5:16 P.M. EDT (U.S.A.) NOTE: After additional research, the 10-digit number cited below appears not to be a bank-account number. Rather, it appears to be a telephone number associated with Nate Boyd, a former compliance officer for AdSurfDaily. Boyd’s name also has been associated with the AdViewGlobal (AVG) autosurf.

See the comments thread below.

Here, our earlier story . . .

A pro se motion to intervene just docketed in the AdSurfDaily civil-forfeiture case lists an “electronic transfer to” a bank account number (**Update 1:41 P.M. EDT: it’s actually a telephone number**) not listed in government references to accounts held by ASD President Andy Bowdoin.

The filing lists the email address of [email protected] and a second account number that is associated with ASD in court filings. It was not immediately clear why the filing by Robert and Evelyn Gould included the account number not associated with Bowdoin in court filings. (**Update 1:41 P.M. EDT: it’s actually a telephone number**)

An account number ending with the digits 1028 — an account number not associated with Bowdoin — is included in the Gould filing, along with the words “electronic transfer to” the account. (UPDATE 2:16 P.M. As noted in the 1:41 P.M. update, the 10-digit number is actually a phone number, as opposed to a bank-account number. The phone number is associated with Nate Boyd and a number of work-at-home opportunities.)

Nate Boyd is a former compliance officer at ASD, members said. It was not immediately clear if the “nate” mentioned listed in the email address is Nate Boyd. (UPDATE 2:16 P.M. The phone number is associated with Nate Boyd.)

Some ASD members have said some upline sponsors sold “ad-packs” directly to customers, as opposed to directing them to purchase them through ASD. “Ad-packs” then were transferred from the existing stockpiles of upline sponsors using ASD’s in-house system. The practice is problematic because some upline sponsors could have pocketed the cash, instead of transferring it to ASD, thus generating off-the-books cash sales.

Such transactions could have transferred the burden of paying for ASD “rebates” to the rank-and-file membership, while destroying the reliability of ASD’s records and giving upline sponsors the opportunity to siphon tax-free profits.

Actions by upline sponsors to sell “ad-packs” directly to customers could be construed as a form of wire fraud and money-laundering.

Also unclear is why the Gould claim was filed using the same pro se template used by dozens of other ASD members. U.S. District Judge Rosemary Collyer already has rejected dozens of filings that used the same argument in the template.

Collyer has not ruled on several templated submissions received after her initial ruling weeks ago that the filers had no standing in the case.

The filing also referenced an account number ending in the digits 3016 that is associated with ASD.

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Federal prosecutors have listed 10 ASD account numbers in court filings, referencing them in the August 2008 forfeiture complaint and again in May 2009, in a proof of service of all defendants in rem. None of the account numbers ended with the digits 1028.

Unlike previous pro se filings, the Gould motion included a printout of the government’s form for victims of AdSurfDaily, ASD Cash Generator, LaFuenteDinero and Golden Panda Ad Builder. Check marks on the Gould form are next to the names of AdSurfDaily and LaFuenteDinero. The form submitted to the court by the Goulds appears to have been printed out and filled out in longhand.

The Gould filing suggests that Robert and Evelyn Gould filled out the government form last month, including the bank-account references.

Despite the fact the government believes ASD engaged in a wire-fraud and money-laundering conspiracy with unnamed co-conspirators while operating as a Ponzi scheme, the Goulds said in the filing that the government owes them $2,000

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6 Responses to “BREAKING NEWS UPDATE: New Pro Se Motion To Intervene In ASD Case Lists Phone Number Associated With ASD Figure Nate Boyd”

  1. Most interesting, poor “Nate” looks like he’s money laundering and evading taxes for income, as I bet he didn’t claim any of it. Nothing like people sending in evidence. You just can’t make up this stuff…

  2. Like I said before these people are just making the case for the government.

  3. Quick note: The ““electronic transfer to” the account number ending in 1028 has ten digits in total, and ASD’s bank-account number ending in 3016 has 12 digits in total.

    The 10-digit account number ending in 1028 appears to be formatted as such (with X as the substitute for the actual numbers):

    XXX XXX 1028

    Note the spacing between the groups of numbers. There also is not a routing number associated with the 10-digit number.

    But the 12-digit number ending in 3016 appears to be formatted with no spaces, as such:

    XXXXXXXX3016

    There is a routing number associated with the 12-digit number.

    It’s unclear why the 12-digit account number has an associated routing number and the 10-digit account number does not.

    This is a curious filing, to be sure. I’m not sure how any of the pro se filers continue to believe the government owes them the money, when both Bowdoin and the government agree the money belongs to him.

    It’s sort of like a “Nanny State” argument in the sense that the pro se filers do not seem not to want Big Brother to look after them. The pro se filings also seem to be preoccupied with a demand for “computer software databases” to be “returned forthwith.”

    Patrick

  4. Quick note:

    OK. The 10-digit number appears actually to be a telephone number, as opposed to a bank-account number. And the number appears to be associated with Nate Boyd.

    Patrick

  5. Quick Note:

    The ASD bank account ending with the digits 3016 had more money in it than any of ASD’s other nine accounts. Prosecutors pegged the total in the 3016 account at more than $31.67 million.

    See this story from May that outlines the amounts in the seized accounts:

    http://patrickpretty.com/2009/05/11/breaking-news-government-seized-658-million-from-bowdoin-accounts-14-million-from-busby-accounts/

    The accounts were listed in the name of Thomas A. Bowdoin, Jr., Sole Proprietor, DBA ADSURFDAILY.

    Patrick

  6. admin: The accounts were listed in the name of Thomas A. Bowdoin, Jr., Sole Proprietor, DBA ADSURFDAILY.

    It’s been said many times but it’s worth saying again – the money forfeited was “Honest” Andy’s, no one else. It wasn’t the ponzi supporters, the ponzi pimps, or even the victims. It was “Honest” Andy’s money & toys.