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Bob Guenther: Kathy, I really believe you and Jack Arons must share the same bottle.

Good grief.

Bob Guenther: My lawyer was on the calls 75% of the time. If anyone has a problem with what was said or done, bring it on..

Good grief.

Bob Guenther: If we were able to get a ASD Leader who had stolen money from a disabled veteran by bringing some pressure from a pier group of people, I think Ill worry about any fallout when it happens..

Good grief. Here you are talking about what YOU’LL worry about.Is ASDMBA going to pay the attorney’s fees of members for whom you’ve retrieved money or caused money to be retrieved if the government tries to claw it back — you know, the disabled veteran you cite, the police officers you cite, the “high profile Dallas Cowboy” executive you cite?Or are they on their own?
The reason I ask is that, in all cases, you claim the money was retrieved under the auspices of ASDMBA. There is a “Testimonial” on the ASDMBA website in which ASDMBA suggests harassment is the means it employs to get people to part with money.

Bob Guenther: Why not get to all the junk that went on within ASD, during final plea arguments, and in the event of a appeal, all of the scams within a scam can be used.

Good grief . . . plus:Why not cover this on the ASDMBA website — or did the money members contributed to ASDMBA cover neither legal representation nor website updates?You haven’t updated the ASDMBA website in months, even though its says “Updated Daily” — and yet you license yourself to tell me how I should be covering the ASD story.Let’s see. As of this post, my Blog has published 446 stories since December 2008 alone. There are 5,813 comments from posters, an average of about 16.6 per day, perhaps making my Blog the most-visited site for ASD news and opinion.My Blog includes a good number of comments from you. You appear to spend more time here and on other forums than you do your own website. Virtually all of your comments here have been rude, hostile, aggressive, threatening or menacing in one way or another. In some cases, they can aptly be described as guttural, even Neanderthal.It must be said, however, that you are an Equal Opportunity Neanderthal when in that mode. Both men and women find your posts revolting, although some people do say that you provide some entertainment value from time to time. Some folks appear to enjoy observing you being you.Me? I’m not among that group. I don’t enjoy reading anything you post and, in all my days, have never seen a person show such a lack of decorum or restraint on such a consistent basis.Patrick

Bob Guenther: Kathy, I really believe you and Jack Arons must share the same bottle.

Good grief.

Bob Guenther: My lawyer was on the calls 75% of the time. If anyone has a problem with what was said or done, bring it on..

Good grief.

Bob Guenther: If we were able to get a ASD Leader who had stolen money from a disabled veteran by bringing some pressure from a pier group of people, I think Ill worry about any fallout when it happens..

Good grief. Here you are talking about what YOU’LL worry about.

Is ASDMBA going to pay the attorney’s fees of members for whom you’ve retrieved money or caused money to be retrieved if the government tries to claw it back — you know, the disabled veteran you cite, the police officers you cite, the “high profile Dallas Cowboy” executive you cite?

Or are they on their own?

The reason I ask is that, in all cases, you claim the money was retrieved under the auspices of ASDMBA. There is a “Testimonial” on the ASDMBA website in which ASDMBA suggests harassment is the means it employs to get people to part with money.

Bob Guenther: Why not get to all the junk that went on within ASD, during final plea arguments, and in the event of a appeal, all of the scams within a scam can be used.

Good grief . . . plus:

Why not cover this on the ASDMBA website — or did the money members contributed to ASDMBA cover neither legal representation nor website updates?

You haven’t updated the ASDMBA website in months, even though its says “Updated Daily” — and yet you license yourself to tell me how I should be covering the ASD story.

Let’s see. As of this post, my Blog has published 446 stories since December 2008 alone. There are 5,813 comments from posters, an average of about 16.6 per day, perhaps making my Blog the most-visited site for ASD news and opinion.

My Blog includes a good number of comments from you. You appear to spend more time here and on other forums than you do your own website. Virtually all of your comments here have been rude, hostile, aggressive, threatening or menacing in one way or another. In some cases, they can aptly be described as guttural, even Neanderthal.

It must be said, however, that you are an Equal Opportunity Neanderthal when in that mode. Both men and women find your posts revolting, although some people do say that you provide some entertainment value from time to time. Some folks appear to enjoy observing you being you.

Me? I’m not among that group. I don’t enjoy reading anything you post and, in all my days, have never seen a person show such a lack of decorum or restraint on such a consistent basis.

Patrick

Bob Guenther: Kathy,I really believe you and Jack Arons must share the same bottle.
I have a recording of every single ASDMBA conference call that was made. My lawyer was on the calls 75% of the time. If anyone has a problem with what was said or done, bring it on.. If we were able to get a ASD Leader who had stolen money from a disabled veteran by bringing some pressure from a pier group of people, I think Ill worry about any fallout when it happens..And Patrick, well pal, you just miss it, dont you. You are so accostomed to controlling the internet via second hand information, doing some real investigative work, with factual information, hands on, would be a stretch for you..My point was , and is, there are thousands of Shannons out there. You want their stories, or just one.. Why not get to all the junk that went on within ASD, during final plea arguments, and in the event of a appeal, all of the scams within a scam can be used. You just dont seem to get it, you have taken an adversarial position with anyone that wants to post anything other than what you seem to like, well screw you pal..
Man up dude, use the site for something, make a difference..

It certainly could be used for some transparency as to what you did with other people’s money that they sent you to perform a task or two. That could certainly be a start right?

Shannon: First, I would like to thank you for sharing my story. It means a great deal to me that you took the time to read my e-mail and publish it on your website. Also, thank you to the individuals who shared their condolences and caring comments. It warms my heart!

I appreciate your thoughtfulness, and the time you took to share your moving, compelling personal story. Many of our readers will identify with your struggle to make sense of it all before gaining acceptance. You have served them well.

Thank you, Shannon.

Patrick

I really believe you and Jack Arons must share the same bottle.
I have a recording of every single ASDMBA conference call that was made. My lawyer was on the calls 75% of the time. If anyone has a problem with what was said or done, bring it on.. If we were able to get a ASD Leader who had stolen money from a disabled veteran by bringing some pressure from a pier group of people, I think Ill worry about any fallout when it happens..

And Patrick, well pal, you just miss it, dont you. You are so accostomed to controlling the internet via second hand information, doing some real investigative work, with factual information, hands on, would be a stretch for you..

My point was , and is, there are thousands of Shannons out there. You want their stories, or just one.. Why not get to all the junk that went on within ASD, during final plea arguments, and in the event of a appeal, all of the scams within a scam can be used. You just dont seem to get it, you have taken an adversarial position with anyone that wants to post anything other than what you seem to like, well screw you pal..

Man up dude, use the site for something, make a difference..

It’s my observation that many people go through life playing what I have labeled “The Victim Role”, for somehow they get some sort of “payoff” for doing so. Allow me to applaud you for saying, “…More important, I wasn’t going to allow myself to be a victim anymore.”

Refusing to stay in that mode after your experiences of being widowed and physically injured as a result of someone’s carelessness, then being conned by Bowdoin and others, followed by being drawn into the ASDMBA scam, tells me a lot about you, and I greatly admire you for that! May the good Lord bless you and your children!

- PWD

First, I would like to thank you for sharing my story. It
means a great deal to me that you took the time to read my e-mail and publish it on your website. Also, thank you to the individuals who shared their condolences and caring comments. It warms my heart!

I can see my story has stirred up a great deal of emotion and debate over such a scam. It is devasting, not only to me, but to the thousands of ASD members just like me who do have a story to tell.

Truth told, I was a member of ASDMBA and sent a $100 to Bob Guenther to help support his legal efforts. I also filled out the claim form provided to ASD members from the govt. twice.

So where am I? At this point, I am not out for revenge and have no intention of pursuing a legal battle for good reason. I have been through the legal system after my accident and it was like reliving my car accident and the lost of my husband for three years. What was worse, my children had to endure the loss of their dad daily too. It made it impossible to move on. I had no idea what I was getting myself into when I agreed to pursue a legal case. I was bitter and numb in the beginning but once it was over, 3 years later, I had gained some money but at the expense of my physical and emotional well being! I was not the person I once was, nor the mother my children needed so desperately! I realized the driver was a real person with 3 kids of his own. He, himself, went through a medical bankruptcy and had suffered through depression as well. Finally, with the encouragement of a good friend, I got the help I needed to learn to live life again. With some much needed therapy and medication, I was able to get my life back on track and become the mother I needed and so wanted to be! More important, I wasn’t going to allow myself to be a victim anymore.

I just wanted to share my story so others, much like me, can see that when something seems too good to be true, than likely it is. Blaming others and becoming a life long victim doesn’t bring any happiness. It seems to only add bitterness and despair to one’s life as I have personally experienced. Yes, as an ASD member, I did at one time blame the govt., then Andy, then my friend’s brother-in-law until I finally realized it was me who sent the certified check without doing the most important thing! All I had to do was research to find out there were some negative things and warnings about ASD readily available on the internet. I didn’t even take the time to look. My excitement took over my gut instinct!

There are many corrupt men and women out there looking for people they can con but it’s up to us to be smarter than them! We can help educate others by telling our stories and support tougher laws to punish those who have the intent of defrauding and destroying others financially for their own well being.
I do believe, in my heart, that those individuals who intentionally hurt others for their gain will ultimately face justice in the end!

Thank you again, Patrick

Shannon

Bob Guenther: What you internet people need to realize, you cant do anything on the internet but type and talk under your pseudo names. And I dont shoot my mouth off littleroundman and Don, I actually do something about it, face to face, on rhe phone, on the internet and in the court room.. What have you done about ASD lately besides type??

Bobbie, if we cannot do anything on the internet, then how is it that YOU can? See, your own words in bold above. What am I doing about ASD? What did you do with $130K with the ASDMBA to get back the money you said you would… NOTHING!!! Not one piece of paper filed, only a vacation trip to DC for you and Lawyer Larry. And don’t think for a minute you are doing any good for anyone but yourself. That’s the only ASD member you care about. I’m waiting for someone to file obstruction charges on you. You are no one’s savior.