First Narc That Car, Now ‘PlatesRUs’: Promoter Says He Recorded 10 License Plate Numbers In Walmart Parking Lot And Earned A ‘Check’

Part of the 'PlatesRUs' pitch for Narc That Car.

Using a domain name similar to the famous ToysRUs brand name, a domain that has branded itself PlatesRUs.biz is promoting the Narc That Car multilevel-marketing program by telling prospects that earning $50 is a simple as going down to the local Walmart parking lot and writing down 10 license-plate numbers of WalMart shoppers.

The PlatesRUs video pitch is similar to a pitch apparently put out by a separate Narc That Car downline group known as Team Trinity International. The Team Trinity promo included the logos of 30 famous companies, identifying their parking lots as places NarcThatCar members should visit to harvest plate numbers and record them in a database through a website NarcThatCar provides for a $100 start-up fee and a monthly fee of $24.95.

A narrator in the PlatesRUs video for Narc That Car tells a simple story:

“I went to Walmart,” he said. “It took me every bit of five minutes to write down 10 tag numbers randomly, go in my back office and log it into the national database through the company, and actually earn a check.”

By paying Narc That Car the $100 fee, promoters become a “registered information consultant,” the PlatesRUs promoter explained in the video, noting he was “very excited” to have become one. The pitchman added that the program was “tremendously exciting” and “growing like wildfire.”

No mention was made in the video of any privacy or legal concerns. Like the Team Trinity video, the PlatesRUs video did not instruct members on matters such as whether Narc That Car participants would need permission to enter retailers’ private property for the purposes of harvesting license-plate data from the retailers’ patrons.

Viewers were given no instruction on what to do if a Walmart shopper — or a shopper at any other prominent business — observed his or her plate number being recorded and objected, perhaps demanding the paper on which the number was recorded so it could be shown to the store manager or even the police. The implication in both videos was that recording license-plate numbers raised no privacy issues at all and was a perfectly acceptable practice — even on private property.

Like the Team Trinity video and a video put out by Narc That Car, the PlatesRUs video referenced the AMBER Alert program. The U.S. Department of Justice said this week that Narc That Car was not affiliated with AMBER Alert, despite promoters’ repeated claims that Narc That Car was tied to the AMBER Alert system.

Some Narc That Car promoters have said the FBI and companies such as the Ford Motor Co. endorsed the Narc That Car program.

The PatrickPretty.com Blog contacted Ford and provided a reference to the claim, which purports that Ford and two other prominent car companies “have already given their commitment to NARC. They have signed on as clients and will be there to use the database when it is ready. These companies believe in this idea.”

Ford did not immediately respond to the inquiry.

Among the claims online about Narc That Car are that it is helping “The US Dep’t of Homeland Security find terrorists” and that “NARC has integrated with Amber Alert to support and assist them in locating missing and/or abducted children.”

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17 Responses to “First Narc That Car, Now ‘PlatesRUs’: Promoter Says He Recorded 10 License Plate Numbers In Walmart Parking Lot And Earned A ‘Check’”

  1. Quick Note:

    Narc That Car is being talked about in this forum for members of the California Highway Patrol:

    http://www.chpforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=92661

    Patrick

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  2. One of the posts there raises an interesting point, one I didn’t think of. Maybe you need to deal with the sewer-mind more than I do to think of it.

    This database of cars-in-a-location may be of use to those criminals who target stealing certain cars. Sometime gangs of organized car thieves have a shopping list of target cars. Lets say they are targeting BMW X5s. This database could show exactly where the big Beemers are being regularly seen.

    At some point this pyramid will start to run out of money. There will be “Russian hackers”, “evil government”, “accounting errors” that require an “audit”, or any number of other excuses. Would they turn down a bunch of wonga from a source that wanted to remain anonymous?

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  3. Last I know – which was awhile ago – the use of an ‘R’ in a name was trademark infringement on ToysRUs.

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  4. quote from scam.com post:

    makingeasymoney
    Junior Member

    Join Date: Jan 2010
    Posts: 12
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    02-05-2010, 08:04 PM
    makingeasymoney
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    Re: Narcthatcar.com – is this legit?
    LOL False claims or changing their website? They are affilitated with Code Amber Alert and it is tied into the Natl Amber Alert program. People who get texts alerts for the Amber Alert program are getting them from Narc as well. No hiding or changing anything there. Skeptical and negative people will never see this as an ingenious idea. Athens Review stated the DA is not doing criminal investigation and Narc is fully complying with AG office. So what’s next? The AG office is a scam and will vouch that Narc is legal because…??????? CALL Tx AG office and ask your questions.

    The reason for the link is to show the last press release that they made since Pretty wants to claim they are denying any affiliation. So you take his word but not the word of the actual source.

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  5. I wonder if Don Peterson of ASD Fame is now working for Narc that Car? Seems like it is almost word for word what he said at the Miami Convention that he had spoken with The Florida Ag’s Office and they had said that ASD was legit.

    What a crock!

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  6. Jack since you “claim” to know it’s a crock, why is it you keep referring to ASD. THIS IS NOT A PONZI. THEY ASK FOR NO OTHER MONEY THAN THE SIGN UP FEE which in a short time is back in your pocket if you really do what you joined up to do.

    I’m going to post this again here. I want people to know that gathering data is legit and many engineering companies are awarded state government contracts to do it every day.

    I work for a engineering firm that does what this company does, just as they get paid by business for access to the data base, we get paid by state contracts for the same kind of information. The states spend alot of money collecting license plates numbers…collecting them from the side of the road for 24, 48 hours sometimes to gain the data to give to the states for transportation reasons. What’s the difference? It’s the business of information. NARC doesn’t require anymore dollars to be spent other than the first 100 which they use as an incentive. The $24.95 a month is not require to stay in the business, you can ask for forms from the company and fill them out and send them in. So what is your beef with this company!!!!!!!!!!! All I know is I see mean spirited people that have nothing better to do than shoot off their mouth. This has NOTHING to do with ASD, Golden Panda. NOTHING LIKE IT. If people that in the past have crossed over to the dark side of MLM, decide to work for a company that is legit, doesn’t make the company or the program unworthy. I believe in duplication. I believe and love networking, meeting new people, but not the hateful reasons I see in the written word here. The ONLY reason I am even posting on this site, is because I think crap needs to be called crap. I get paid every day at a job where they do the same thing..furnish information (data) to business, local and state governments. THERE IS NOTHING ILLEGAL ABOUT IT!. I have 7 Private Investigators on my team. There will be those who believe in the system of duplication, and others who won’t. Some believe it’s ok to run their mouth off (freedom of speech) I respect, but not when it is to HURT a company and the people trying so hard to improve their bottom line with a legit business.

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  7. It’s also $25/month on top of the sign up fee.
    Since people are making huge money claims, please post the outside revenue source of this money that apparently has been in place for awhile and not who COULD be. If you can’t….it’s a ponzi.
    Since you KNOW this is legit and not illegal, you should easily be able to do this.

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  8. Charlie, unless Narcthatcar have revenue from the contracts they have sold to pay the members, or they have a large start up fund, then the only income the company has is the money paid by new members. Paying old members with new members money makes it a ponzi. It is that simple.

    If they were paying old members out of company profits or start up fund money, that would be different, but until they provide evidence that they have sufficient funds to pay out people WITHOUT using new members money, they are breaking the law. It is no good to start that way and later on use company profits. They have to get it right from dDay One to be legal.

    Companies who do get paid by contracts with clients generally start up being properly funded, by start up capital or bank loans. Many companies DO go bust due to insufficient capital to carry them through the first months or year when their overheads are often higher than their income, but they do NOT pay comissions to their salesmen or members from new members money, they pay it out of money earned from those contracts. That is the big difference between a company which makes its money out of contracts and one that makes its money by charging people to join and sell for them.

    Nobody is trying to hurt an honest company and if they are all you believe them to be, then they will be able to answer the questions and will come out in front.

    However, there are people who are writing here who have looked at this business and consider it has all the signs of a ponzi fraud:-

    – Narcthatcar sell an non-viable product (this is an undeveloped database with random information),

    – there is a near total lack of evidence of outside revenue other then members fees (i.e. confirmation of serious customers), and

    – the involvement at senior level of people with dubious business track records.

    The posters here are simply warning people to take a reality check and see beyond the many false claims put out by the narcthatcar promoters, (and, before they changed their own website, by the owners) so they do not become victims of yet another internet fraud scheme.

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  9. Charlie: Jack since you “claim” to know it’s a crock, why is it you keep referring to ASD.

    Well, I can’t speak for Jack but I can tell you that the people I know were involved heavily with ASD, Global Verge (another scam), and now Narcthatcar.

    There’s my connection.

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  10. How did Global verge become a scam? Mis managed Yes Awful customer service Yes But scam??? Come on I’ve been using the cell phone service since early December. It’s not illegal to run a business badly.

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  11. just sick of it: How didGlobal verge become a scam?Mis managed Yes Awfulcustomer serviceYesBut scam???ComeonI’ve been usingthecell phoneservicesinceearly December. It’s notillegalto run a business badly.  

    I find it odd and remiss that you make no mention of the previous and similar phone “businesses” that Mark Petchel “ran poorly”. Just how many times does a person have to have a bad business and not pay people and steal for you to deem it a scam? Surely you are aware of everge, bizzbuzz, and whatever else there was?

    I am astonished that someone who thinks that Global Verge isn’t a scam is attempting to challenge anyone posting here. You may not be the sharpest tool in the shed but you’ve sure got chutzpah for doing so – I’ll give you that.

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  12. I refuse to belittle NARC Technologies for an innovative efford. It sounds to me many people on this website believed that the pet rock would not sell to the consumer. Certainly,, you realize a database must be highly populated prior to increasing demand for the information. NACR is a start-up and using current funding(fees) for future growth is the norm. Consequently, you wait on the sideline because other data collection companies are starting up as I type.

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  13. Karen,

    You are of course entitled to your opinion. Me, I believe in cold, hard, irrefutable math (which clearly shows the NTC database is worthless at best). Also, if you know anything about startups and venture capital funding, you will quickly realize that NTC’s funding model is illegal. There are lots of ways to fund it legally, but for some reason the principles have chosen the Ponzi funding model. Can you tell me why? (actually, I know why……)

    Karen: I refuse to belittle NARC Technologies for an innovative efford. It sounds to me many people on this website believed that the pet rock would not sell to the consumer. Certainly,, you realize a database must be highly populated prior to increasing demand for the information. NACR is a start-up and using current funding(fees) for future growth is the norm. Consequently, you wait on the sideline because other data collection companies are starting up as I type.  (Quote)

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  14. What is this world coming to? Now we are being paid to “snitch” on strangers possibly our neighbors. What about my privacy? I would not want anybody and I mean ANY BODY to write down my tag number without my permission. This info goes into a data base for so that banks, and other agencies can look at it? This is a privacy issue and it has nothing to do with catching criminals or security purposes. Count me out on this one. I would rather make extra money working at Burger King.

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  15. April11,

    You have nothing to worry about. The notion of “getting paid to write down license plate numbers” is all just a ruse. People are only getting paid to recruit others into this scam. It is a straightforward Ponzi scheme. Further, no one, and I mean no one, is ever going to use this data for any purpose whatsoever. It has been shown that the database, even in a wildly optimistic scenario, has zero (or negative) value. No company will pay anything for the information. Rest assured, your privacy is safe from the NarcThatPonzi crew…….even if they record your plate somewhere, no one will ever look for it in the NTC database.

    april11: What is this world coming to? Now we are being paid to “snitch” on strangers possibly our neighbors. What about my privacy? I would not want anybody and I mean ANY BODY to write down my tag number without my permission. This info goes into a data base for so that banks, and other agencies can look at it? This is a privacy issue and it has nothing to do with catching criminals or security purposes. Count me out on this one. I would rather make extra money working at Burger King.  (Quote)

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  16. Sydd Finch: April11,You have nothing to worry about.The notion of “getting paid to write down license plate numbers” is all just a ruse.People are only getting paid to recruit others into this scam.It is a straightforward Ponzi scheme.Further, no one, and I mean no one, is ever going to use this data for any purpose whatsoever.It has been shown that the database, even in a wildly optimistic scenario, has zero (or negative) value.No company will pay anything for the information.Rest assured, your privacy is safe from the NarcThatPonzi crew…….even if they record your plate somewhere, no one will ever look for it in the NTC database.
      

    An excellent observation, Sydd,

    It appears many people STILL haven’t truly grasped the one major “truth” behind any and all of these hyip ponzi frauds.

    And that is that behind the web site and behind the words, NOTHING EXISTS.

    In the case of NarcThat Car/ CSI

    THERE IS NO “DATABASE.”

    THERE ARE NO “CLIENTS”

    Not one, single, solitary person has been able to say he or she has seen a “database” or a “client list” or a company history.

    Ad Surf Daily at least made an attempt to make it APPEAR there was advertising, NCT/CSI have managed to even avoid having to do that.

    Even if they have a list of license plates, SO WHAT ????

    They have no access to any state or government databases.

    What’s more, it has been demonstrated there are Federal statutes in place specifically preventing any third party access to license information, with severe penalties should they do so.

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  17. how do i joined.

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