Now, A Narc That Car Training Video Shot By Promoter In Parking Lot Of Giant Eagle Supermarket Chain; ‘I’m Not Going To Talk To Anybody,’ Narrator Says

A Narc That Car promoter recorded a video for the program in the parking lot of a Giant Eagle store. Giant Eagle is one of the largest grocery chains in the United States. Some Narc That Car promoters have recommended that members visit the parking lots of prominent retailers and restaurants to find a never-ending supply of license-plate numbers.

UPDATED 11 A.M. ET (U.S.A.) A grainy video promotion for Narc That Car was shot in the parking lot of one of the largest grocery-store chains in the United States and posted on YouTube.

The narrator in the video talked about the “countless cars that are in the parking lot” of a Giant Eagle store. Pittsburgh-based Giant Eagle is one of the largest food retailers and food distributors in the United States, recording about $8 billion in annual sales.

Narc That Car is a Dallas-based, multilevel-marketing (MLM) company that says it is building a database of license-plate numbers for use by banks and companies that specialize in repossessing automobiles.

“This is how simple this business is, folks,” the narrator says, as a camera pans around the Giant Eagle parking lot and captures one car after another in video frames.

“I’m not even going to talk to anybody,” the narrator says, noting he did not know the address of the particular Giant Eagle at which he was recording the video, but would obtain it online.

Giant Eagle did not immediately return a call seeking comment on the Narc That Car video shot in its parking lot and the practices of Narc That Car and its promoters.

The narrator cites Giant Eagle’s name in the video, panning on Giant Eagle signage and a nearby gas station.

“I want to show you how simple and easy this business is,” the narrator intones. “I’m just going to jot down some public information of the license plates. That’s the way this works.”

The narrator continues, “As a matter of fact, I don’t even know the address of this Giant Eagle. I’ll just look it up online and get the address when I get home. Or, [if] I’m at a gas station, I can do the exact same thing. So, this is really great how simple this business is. Come on and join us [via] Cash For Car Plates.”

In the the video, which appears to have been shot on a dark and dreary winter day, the narrator raised no issues of propriety, safety, privacy or legality. The narrator did not, for example, instruct Narc That Car members if permission needed to be obtained from companies such as Giant Eagle to write down the license-plate numbers of patrons.

Nor did the video provide any instruction on what Narc That Car members should do if approached by a store manager or patron while the Narc That Car promoter was writing down license-plate numbers or capturing them on video.

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27 Responses to “Now, A Narc That Car Training Video Shot By Promoter In Parking Lot Of Giant Eagle Supermarket Chain; ‘I’m Not Going To Talk To Anybody,’ Narrator Says”

  1. Quick note:

    Our research suggests the Narc That Car video cited above was shot in a Giant Eagle parking lot in or around the environs of Pickerington, OH.

    Patrick

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  2. Of course they weren’t going to talk to anyone….why take the chance of being told to get the ‘f’ out or have someone lay them out for stalking.

    And of course, they prove the unimportance of it all if they were just going to go home and google a store and use it’s address.

    Funny how none of them have provided one shred of evidence to a legitimate outside source of money in place since it’s inception. It’s always, ‘this one could’ or ‘this one can’ use this.

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  3. Quick note:

    URL of video:

    http://www.youtube.com/v/us1jrCXru1U

    Patrick

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  4. Quick note:

    Talk about a fractured message. Here’s a Narc That Car promo that includes an appeal to “Help AmberAlert and other organizations find repossessed cars.”

    http://twitter.com/crush57

    Patrick

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  5. Quick note:

    Narc That Car members positioned on craigslist as community “watchdog” group:

    “Get Paid to be a watchdog in your community . . .”

    http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/act/1544268668.html

    Patrick

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  6. cashforcarplates.com is registered to a “Ajamu Kafele” in Ohio. Someone with that name also from Ohio was alleged to be engaged in the unauthorized practice of law on 2004/5.
    http://www.sconet.state.oh.us/Boards/UPL/reports/03_09R.pdf
    And from 2006:
    http://www.supremecourt.ohio.gov/rod/docs/pdf/0/2006/2006-Ohio-904.pdf

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  7. Quick note:

    Here is the Cash For Car Plates Blog, operated by “Jah.”

    http://cashforcarplates.blogspot.com/

    Patrick

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  8. Let me see if I have this right. As a promoter, this person thinks his potential downline isn’t smart enough to find license plate numbers on their own, so he creates a video to teach them how to do it?

    That’s what I want; to be in a business where I have to teach people how to find license plate numbers, yes siree!

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  9. Quick note:

    Person on Work-At-Home-Forum who uses same avatar displayed the Cash For Car Plates Blog declares that people who question Narc That Car program are “haters.”

    http://www.work-at-home-forum.com/reviews-14/cash-for-writing-down-license-plates-narcthatcar-16253-5.html

    Patrick

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  10. Freecashman also posted this on that same forum:

    You get $50 check once you join and submit 10 license plates. Refer 3 others that do the same and you get $25 each, you’ve got your money back. The money grows from their monthly.

    If you think GDI was big, well this has a greater potential, because it is the simplest business I’ve ever seen.

    No selling, autoship of products you don’t really use or want, no switching services, and no customer service concerns.

    If you think people aren’t making money with this; here are December Top Earners:

    1) J Truitt – $22,235.60
    2) B Drewery – $10,222.60
    3) G Furr – $3,369.60
    4) B Derrick – $2,703.60
    5) L Myers – $2,399.80
    6) D Trigueno – $1,906.30
    7) D Bliss – $1,596.10
    8) B Frey – $1,594.30
    9) J Richard – $1,560.50
    10) R Salley – $1,558.30

    Wow this is exciting. Disgrunted networkers gravitating to this opportunity. Take a good look at this business and start making cash for writing down car license plates.

    Got $142.50 in commissions so far in 3 days.

    Didn’t Sell Anything
    Didn’t Try Anything
    Didn’t Switch Anything
    Didn’t Use Anything

    Just gathered public information, and showed some friends how to do the same thing. Several more joining me today. Take a good look at this business if you want a Super Simple Way to make money from home and build great monthly residual income.

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  11. I can’t wait to read about someone in Texas involved in Narc That Car being approached by a lawfully licensed, questionning, gun owner wanting to know why his or her license plate is being written down or photographed. The lawbiding Texan holding the gun and calling 911 would surely get the attention of the Narc That Car person taking a picture with a cell phone or sitting in a car with pen in hand, at least until the police would arrive. As the saying goes, “Don’t Mess With Texas” even if your “business” is based in Dallas. You just don’t want to mess with a good ole boy with a big pick up truck, possibly adorned with a big gun rack in the back of the cab any more than you want to mess with a female who is licensed to carry a gun and feels threatened by an unknown individual.

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  12. Quick note:

    Just watched another You Tube video on Narc That Car. Promoter said he parked at the back of a Walmart parking lot and took 100 pictures of license plates as he walked toward the store.

    “You write them down; you take pictures of them, which is what I just did on my iPhone,” he said. “I just walked down the aisle at Walmart and snapped like 100 cars, literally, on my way into Walmart.

    “And I parked in the very back, and I just walked and snapped a bunch of pictures as I was walking. I was already going in anyway, so it didn’t take me any more time and effort, and I got a little bit more exercise than I [would] have. So, it’s a win-win. So, hey, you got a weight-loss opportunity here, too. [Laughing.] You’ll walk and you’ll lose weight, and you’ll have lots of money.”

    The promoter said he has recorded so many plate numbers that he has some to give away to incoming downline members who contact him quickly, perhaps even enough for recruits to get $55 just by turning in license-plate numbers he supplies.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRA-zVWdW3U

    Patrick

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  13. One thought that crossed my mind is don’t repo men need a VIN to procure a proper repo?

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  14. So, he has 100 pictures and 100 license plate numbers, now what ???

    Legally obtained or not, what happens next ???

    They are fed into a database, then what ???

    100 cars were in a KMART car park at a particular time, so what ????

    Overall, there were an estimated 254.4 MILLION registered passenger vehicles in the United States according to a 2007 DOT study.

    And someone has randomly collected the license plate numbers of 10 of them or 100 of them or even a 1000 of them. SO BLOODY WHAT ????

    At least if a law enforcement official spots a “suspicious” number plate, he can stop and do something about it immediately, after comparing it to a database immediately.

    He doesn’t have to gamble on THAT car being in THAT spot some time in the future.

    People can collect all the license plate numbers they like, THEN WHAT ????

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  15. littleroundman: People can collect all the license plate numbers they like, THEN WHAT ????

    They lose their money to a bunch of crooks! THAT’S WHAT!!!

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  16. LRM,

    You are exactly right! The “Then What” amounts to a big “So What.”

    Patrick earlier alluded to Chaos Theory as it would apply to the Narc database. Our friend A Random Walk Rant would appreciate this…. Chaos Theory would describe the degeneration of the value of the information in the Narc database over time, which seriously undermines any hypothetical value this database would have. As you correctly point out, with 250 million registered vehicles, even a large Narc database would contain only a small fraction of the registered vehicles. Leave that aside for the moment, and let’s look at the data itself. As you and Patrick point out, the old sightings are not very valuable. In fact, the older they are the less valuable they are. The average number of miles per year travelled by each registered car is 10,500 according to the EPA, or about 29 miles per day on average. We can calculate how far away on average, a specific car is from the point where it is sighted, using random walk approximations. The average distance away from the sighting is equal to the square root of the number of days since the sighting times the average miles driven per day. This applies for random sightings and for random driving. Of course, in reality the driving is not random, and so the real mean radius is less, often by a lot. The point is that the search radius in finding a car even a few days after its plates would be entered into the Narc database gets large quite quickly, and gets larger as the square root of the time after the sighting. Very shortly the information becomes worthless relative to the value of the FREE database maintained by the government agencies. This is what Patrick is alluding to by the Chaos Theory reference. The data in the Narc database very quickly becomes worthless. On the other hand, consider the government database that links home add4resses to vehicles. Now, the search radius stays fixed because more or less every day the vehicle returns home, or very close to it. No one (as an approximation) would ever move away just to avoid the repo man and a few thousand dollars of debt. Thus the intrinsic value to repossession companies of the government datbase is orders of magnitude higher than the Narc database, and it’s free. Only phenomenally stupid repo people would pay even a dollar for the Narc database. “Hey, we saw xxx’s car at a gas station 6 months ago, never mind that that gas station was fifty miles away from the home address.” Real valuable information…..

    I haven’t done the analysis, but I strongly believe that it is less than worthless, in other words it could very well be HARMFUL. Take the repossession case. Assuming that the Narc data is valuable like the Narc Ponzi promoters claim it is, the repo people would have to act on the data. Thus, with their limited resources, they would have to search in the area around the gas station 50 miles away (paying for the searchers time and expenses of course) on a vanishingly small probability of finding the vehicle around the gas station. Would they really pay a few hundred dollars for the time & expenses, plus the Narc data fee? Of course not. MOst repo events occur in urban areas, so this becomes a needle in a haystack exercise at best with the Narc data. What they will do, and what they do do, is search and wait around the target’s home or work address.

    The Amber Alert situation is even more alarming. The same vanishingly small probabilities come into play, but in this case the consequences of the Narc information could be much worse. The random sighting six months ago could again distract the authorities, with limited resources, from much more promising leads (like the home addresses of people who would know the abductee — by far and away the most frequent kind of child abduction. For our friend Charlie, who is promoting this criminal enterprise, how would you like it if your grandchild was abducted and the authorities chose to follow only Narc leads, but not real leads?) Even more drastic, if one were going to plan an abduction, what better way to throw off the authorities than to REPORT YOUR OWN CAR to Narc? Assuming that the authorities would actually act on the Narc data, you’d report your license plate at location a few hundred or a couple of thousand miles away from where your planned abduction would take place. You could then be secure in the knowledge that the authorities could never actually would find you. Your car was seen in Florida 3 months ago, but you live in California, right where your abduction takes place. Fortunately the authorities are way smarter than that. The Narc Ponzi promoters apparently are not.

    So, the math says:

    1) The probability of a vehicle showing up in Narc is extremely small.
    2) Random sightings of vehicles have positional value for very short periods of time — a few hours at best. After just a few days, the value of the sighting degrades to virtually zero due to the random walk principles
    3) The Narc database as a whole degenerates to a worthless collection of numbers (Chaos) rather quickly, and in fact carries a negative value for repossessors.
    4) The Narc database poses a real threat to abduction victims if the authorities chose to act on the information in the database.

    This program is not a very well disguised Ponzi scheme. It is shuffling money from new members to old members, and offering zero value for the “product.” No one is buying the data — prove me wrong Charlie!

    littleroundman: So, he has 100 pictures and 100 license plate numbers, now what ???Legally obtained or not, what happens next ???They are fed into a database, then what ???100 cars were in a KMART car park at a particular time, so what ????Overall, there were an estimated 254.4 MILLION registered passenger vehicles in the United States according to a 2007 DOT study.And someone has randomly collected the license plate numbers of 10 of them or 100 of them or even a 1000 of them. SO BLOODY WHAT ????At least if a law enforcement official spots a “suspicious” number plate, he can stop and do something about it immediately, after comparing it to a database immediately.He doesn’t have to gamble on THAT car being in THAT spot some time in the future.People can collect all the license plate numbers they like, THEN WHAT ????  (Quote)

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  17. Patrick,

    I forgot to add:

    If I worked at a repo firm, and I made the decision to buy data from Narc and act on it, I would expect that the company would fire me for making an incredibly poor decision and for destroying shareholder wealth (owner wealth) in the process. Throwing away your employer’s money does not endear you to them, and it is a guarantee you’d be doing so if you bought the Narc database…..sorry promoters, the truth hurts….

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  18. Narc That Car is now claiming that the information is put into a National Database.

    http://videos.apnicommunity.com/Video,Item,2932177802.html

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  20. Patrick,

    Thanks for your due diligence on this. There is a newspaper report from Texas about a District Attorney contacting the Texas Attorney General about Narc Technologies…

    http://www.athensreview.com/local/x1230894711/Narc-called-into-question

    BBB report is less than favorable for this company, and it looks like Narc Technologies is “flirting” with the idea that Narc That Car works with Amber Alert, but then is accusing its consltants on the BBB site for violating company policies…

    BBB Rating
    Based on BBB files, this business has a BBB Rating of NR .

    BBB’s information on this company is being updated, and no rating is available at this time.

    On January 18, 2010, the BBB contacted Narc Technologies to request that it substantiate some claims made in its advertising. The BBB also requested that the company describe key aspects of its business model.

    Specifically, the BBB requested that Narc Technologies substantiate the claim that the company is currently working with several major motor corporations, major banks, and major finance companies.

    In response, the company explained that the advertising is inaccurate, and that the independent consultant making the claims is breaking company policies. Narc Technologies claims to be working to have the inaccurate claims discontinued.

    Additionally, the BBB has asked the company to provide information regarding its compensation plan in order to determine that it’s not functioning as a pyramid promotional scheme.

    Specifically, the BBB is trying to determine if the independent consultant’s primary source of compensation is through recruitment of additional program participants.

    The BBB is currently awaiting further substantiation from the company.

    The BBB warns consumers to be wary of participating in business opportunities that primarily derive compensation through the recruitment of other participants rather than through the sale of a product or service.

    The matter is still pending.

    [End of BBB Report]

    Most of what I see about this company is questionable, and I know that I sure wouldn’t tie my reputation to Narc That Car.

    Roscoe

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  21. If its so great, why limit the number of plates a person can input per month. seems like you would want as many as you could get…or is it the up front fee you are seeking?

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  22. It appears that most of the comments have somewhat of a negative tone? lol

    Look folks, there is nothing wrong with writing a plate number down, Granted, some folks might get upset, but they don’t know why they are getting upset. Licence plates are in clear view of anyone, and everyone.

    I have been to many car shows and taken pictures of the vanity plates on cars, and in fact those folks love it when you do so because they had this novel idea to brand their car.

    It is no different than taking a pic of someone’s home, or piece of property. Appraisers do this all the time and nobody throws their hands up in disgust or crying about some right of theirs being violated. The fact is, there is nothing wrong with either example and I could identify several others that validate that point.

    That being said, your premise is wrong and I just shot it down. “I Shot The Sherrif”, no, “I Shot The Naysayers”, now…

    People are making serious money with the program, and not at the expense of other folks.

    There are many opps out there that use people, trample over people, and end up burying people in their rise to the top of whatever organization.

    Now, you naysayers would be best served if you took a few moments of your precious time to dial in on any number of conference calls that are hosted throughout the week.

    Nobody in the organization is trying to hide, and everyone is very transparent and accessible.

    On and on I could go, but don’t let me belabor the point…I don’t want to take up your precious time that you spend on trying to bring down something. Go ahead…have at it, but you’ll be left in the dust or the exhaust fumes of all the cars that have been narced by their members.

    Bottom line is this, either get on or get off.

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  23. I reference this post after it implodes, “goes private” or gets raided.

    BTW, it’s sheriff.

    Main Entry: sher·iff
    Pronunciation: \ˈsher-əf\
    Function: noun
    Etymology: Middle English shirreve, from Old English scīrgerēfa, from scīr shire + gerēfa reeve — more at shire,

    mark: That being said, your premise is wrong and I just shot it down. “I Shot The Sherrif”, no, “I Shot The Naysayers”, now…

    People are making serious money with the program, and not at the expense of other folks.

    There are many opps out there that use people, trample over people, and end up burying people in their rise to the top of whatever organization.

    Now, you naysayers would be best served if you took a few moments of your precious time to dial in on any number of conference calls that are hosted throughout the week.

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  24. Well mark,

    As for transparency, this question has been asked many, many times and never ever once answered by the promoters/supporters of NTC, so now it is your turn.

    Think carefully, your credibility is on the line, as well as your post. The essence of the Ponzi argument against NTC is that it has no source of external income, and certainly no source big enough to pay the commissions it is paying. In the absence of such proof, NTC is shuffling money from new enrollees to old enrollees in classic, timeless Ponzi fashion. So sir, here is your chance. Provide proof of external income, or accept the Ponzi argument…..

    mark: It appears that most of the comments have somewhat of a negative tone? lolLook folks, there is nothing wrong with writing a plate number down, Granted, some folks might get upset, but they don’t know why they are getting upset. Licence plates are in clear view of anyone, and everyone.I have been to many car shows and taken pictures of the vanity plates on cars, and in fact those folks love it when you do so because they had this novel idea to brand their car. It is no different than taking a pic of someone’s home, or piece of property. Appraisers do this all the time and nobody throws their hands up in disgust or crying about some right of theirs being violated. The fact is, there is nothing wrong with either example and I could identify several others that validate that point.That being said, your premise is wrong and I just shot it down. “I Shot The Sherrif”, no, “I Shot The Naysayers”, now…People are making serious money with the program, and not at the expense of other folks. There are many opps out there that use people, trample over people, and end up burying people in their rise to the top of whatever organization.Now, you naysayers would be best served if you took a few moments of your precious time to dial in on any number of conference calls that are hosted throughout the week. Nobody in the organization is trying to hide, and everyone is very transparent and accessible. On and on I could go, but don’t let me belabor the point…I don’t want to take up your precious time that you spend on trying to bring down something. Go ahead…have at it, but you’ll be left in the dust or the exhaust fumes of all the cars that have been narced by their members.Bottom line is this, either get on or get off.  (Quote)

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