BULLETIN: ASA Monitor Ponzi And Criminals’ Forum Says It Is Closing; Threads Go Missing En Masse; Closure Coincides With Undercover Operations By Law Enforcement And USDA Probe Of MPB Today

BULLETIN: UPDATED 7:37 P.M. EDT (U.S.A.): The ASAMonitor Ponzi and criminals’ forum — the forum from which the purported MPB Today “grocery” program was being promoted and countless other fraud schemes were being promoted — suddenly has announced that the forum is closing.

The announcement, which appeared today in red type, was made by “Wanrou,” whose ID says he is “ASA Administrator.” Content from the forum appears to have been deleted or hidden en masse.

“ASA forum has been a place where members can get information, discuss, share, debate, to educate and be educate about possibilities and risks of online money making programs for the last few years,” the Wanrou post said.

“Sadly we can no longer keep it online as a free discussion forum because of time consuming and financial reasons,” the post continued.

“Thanks you all for your long time support and best wishes to your present and future online endeavors.”

The forum’s sudden closure coincided with reports in recent months that U.S.-based law-enforcement agencies were conducting undercover stings both online and offline and using informants to bring both criminal and civil charges against financial fraudsters.

It was not immediately clear if ASAMonitor would seek to reopen as a so-called “private” forum. Court records show that undercover operations also have infiltrated “private” forums and that members of the forums who had been scammed have provided helpful information to investigators.

The sudden closure of ASAMonitor also coincided with yet-another flap in the MPB Today thread. An antiscam poster was specifically warned by a moderator yesterday to refrain from his efforts to inform ASA members about developments in the MPB Today story and his reading of events at MPB Today.

Specific claims about MPB Today are being investigated by the U.S. Department of Agriculture. The program has been pitched to Food Stamp recipients, people of faith, Ponzi scheme victims, people of color, senior citizens, college students and opponents of President Obama, among others.

Obama created an entity known as the Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force in November 2009 to do battle with fraudsters. In January, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder warned in Florida that the U.S. government was serious about putting scammers in prison.

ASAMonitor previously closed the MPB Today thread after warning an antiscam poster to back off from challenging “Ken Russo,” a poster promoting the MPB Today program. The thread later was opened after what a Mod described as a “cooling off period” had passed. In an earlier closure of the thread, links to the PP Blog’s coverage of the MPB Today story were deleted from the forum and later restored.

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31 Responses to “BULLETIN: ASA Monitor Ponzi And Criminals’ Forum Says It Is Closing; Threads Go Missing En Masse; Closure Coincides With Undercover Operations By Law Enforcement And USDA Probe Of MPB Today”

  1. Specific claims about MPB Today are being investigated by the U.S. Department of Agriculture. The program has been pitched to Food Stamp recipients, people of faith, Ponzi scheme victims, people of color, senior citizens, college students and opponents of President Obama, among others.

    Do you have a link or proof that MPB is being investigated by the Dept of Ag. Also I am just curious, what do you mean, for example, when you say that the program has been pitched to people of color?

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  2. I am not surprised that ASA pulled the plug, but that it happened before the end of the year. Hits to the site have been dropping for some time now. They announced a few months ago they wanted to take the forum in a new direction, but old habits die hard. They needed the advertising money from the major scams promoted there to cover costs, but at the same time began limiting the amount of new advertising from scam programs. While some of their mods allowed free speech, others could not make the change and had to try and protect the promoters as they had in the past.

    The major promoters were used to being ‘protected’ from us naysayers, and when that changed, they were shocked and hated it. These promoters went to the mod, who had protected them in the past, and then tried to get the old rules enforced banning us, or putting us on mod review. Mod review just meant you had to have your post approved before they would allow it posted on the thread. Posts were never approved, at least mine weren’t in the past. Same as banning, just not called banning. LOL! When that didn’t happen, they stopped posting. They also made sure their followers didn’t go to the forum as it was hurting them financially.

    Loss of advertising revenue, loss of visitors to the forum, promoters upset they could not be exempt from exposure, scammers complaining free speech was costing them money, and it all came crashing down. There are more reasons why, but these are just a few of the major reasons that caused their demise.

    At least they allowed us naysayers to post without being banned, which was first for them, for the past few months.

    The other forums still continue to ban those of us that are costing them money by exposing their scam. When you are exposing the scams on their forums, while those same scams are paying for advertising, guess who wins on those forums?! LOL!

    There is another forum that is in trouble as they will not allow any dissent, read naysayers posting exposing the scams on their forum threads. Because of this, the number of visitors has also plummeted which has made the scammers advertising their scam there not happy. They are not getting the number of members they need to steal more money. I think it will be lucky to survive to the end of November. It also got hurt by the owner of the forum being a partner in a major scam that really upset the ‘faithful’ on that forum.

    I think ASA is just the first of several more to come in the ensuing months. At least they were trying to clean up their act, but their past got the better of them in the end.

    Not to worry, there are at least twenty or more out there to choose from.

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  3. Bruce Smith: Specific claims about MPB Today are being investigated by the U.S. Department of Agriculture. The program has been pitched to Food Stamp recipients, people of faith, Ponzi scheme victims, people of color, senior citizens, college students and opponents of President Obama, among others.

    Do you have a link or proof that MPB is being investigated by the Dept of Ag.

    Bruce,

    If you’re interested only in MPB Today, you can save yourself some time and click on this link. You might want to read the reader comments below the stories.

    http://patrickpretty.com/tag/mpb-today/

    A poster on the now-closed ASA Monitor Ponzi and criminals’ forum known as “Walks Simply” tried to plant the seed that I was making up the story about the USDA probe.

    I covered his deflections here (more than a month ago):

    http://patrickpretty.com/2010/09/03/bulletin-usda-conducting-review-of-food-stamp-claims-made-by-mpb-today-affiliates-we-take-this-matter-very-seriously-agency-says/comment-page-1/#comment-12389

    And here:

    http://patrickpretty.com/2010/09/03/bulletin-usda-conducting-review-of-food-stamp-claims-made-by-mpb-today-affiliates-we-take-this-matter-very-seriously-agency-says/comment-page-1/#comment-12393

    Meanwhile, a poster over a Scam.com known as GeminiDogg also is trying to discredit my reporting.

    “BTW, I hear some blogger who loves to cause trouble by calling the USDA saying MPB Today is encouraging people to use Food Stamp EBT cards to join the company. NOT TRUE!!”GeminiDogg declares. “I called it desperation on this bogger’s part.”

    You can read GeminiDogg’s musings here:

    http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=129629&page=3

    Bruce Smith: Also I am just curious, what do you mean, for example, when you say that the program has been pitched to people of color?

    What I mean, specifically, is that MPB Today has been positioned in the African American community as an “Initiative” in both video and text form.

    Personally I don’t see MPB Today as much of an “Initiative” for any community. I see it as a Ponzi-style pyramid scheme dressed up as a business.

    Patrick

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  4. Loss of advertising revenue – yes, that would be my guess for the closure.

    There is another forum that is in trouble [snip] It also got hurt by the owner of the forum being a partner in a major scam that really upset the ‘faithful’ on that forum.

    Please tell me you are referring to a certain “club” set up after the collapse of PIPS by that Polish guy? I can remember him pushing his pet scam on one of the other ponzi forums. He went bleating to the mods when questions were asked about his previous activity and qualification for running an “investment” vehicle.

    BTW – the “quote” button doesn’t seem to be working for me today. It’s probably my setup, but I notice that “Bruce” didn’t quote correctly above.

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  5. admin: If you’re interested only in MPB Today, you can save yourself some time and click on this link. You might want to read the reader comments below the stories.
    http://patrickpretty.com/tag/mpb-today/

    The PP Blog stands behind its reporting. It received a call from USDA at 4:05 p.m. yesterday. The call lasted 10 minutes (and 23 seconds).

    For now, the Blog is declining to publish the URLs and declining to name the USDA official.

    That’s what I thought!

    admin: What I mean, specifically, is that MPB Today has been positioned in the African American community as an “Initiative” in both video and text form.
    Personally I don’t see MPB Today as much of an “Initiative” for any community. I see it as a Ponzi-style pyramid scheme dressed up as a business.

    With all of the groups you mentioned it would seem to me that everyone in the US who gets involved would fall into one or more of your catagories. In regards to the people of color “initiative” do you have any links to the videos and text you referred to. I am still laughing about your reference that MBP is being pitched to the “Opponents of Obama”. You reckon any Obama supporters are involved?

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  6. Bruce might not be aware of how things work but those investigation refrain from giving out a lot of information, primarily because they are still investigating!! He also seems to promote the MPB scam if these are his views.

    What always gets me is they never back up their own claims but find it very easy to question the claims that are contrary to their “agenda”. The tend to deflect, and change the subject.

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  7. I cannot type, sorry. I was so rattled by Bruce’s logic…..

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  8. Tony H: Loss of advertising revenue – yes, that would be my guess for the closure.Please tell me you are referring to a certain “club” set up after the collapse of PIPS by that Polish guy? I can remember him pushing his pet scam on one of the other ponzi forums. He went bleating to the mods when questions were asked about his previous activity and qualification for running an “investment” vehicle.BTW – the “quote” button doesn’t seem to be working for me today. It’s probably my setup, but I notice that “Bruce” didn’t quote correctly above.

    No, I am not speaking of ROLClub, but of another forum that evolved from the P-2-P scam. Still there are others that are in trouble as well due to lack of visitors, and scam advertising revenue falling off. Just not as many new scams coming on board as in the past. Hmm, wonder why? LOL!

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  9. Bruce:

    Just a few general questions for you: Why do you want someone else to do your work for you? The info is out there. Patrick has provided you plenty of links to check out, but it seems you don’t want to do so. One has to wonder and ask why? Afraid of what you will find that will destroy your belief in this illegal pyramid scheme?

    Actually I would like for you to take the information from the FTC website about illegal pyramid schemes, and refute it here to show how MPBToday is not one. And no, I don’t want you using the company mantra, or Ken Russo, or any other pimps of this program BS. Take their compensation plan and prove it is not an illegal pyramid scheme. Prove that 70% of the revenue comes from outside retail sales, not from recuriting/signups. It is a very simple test, and one I am sure you can easily prove. AFter all that is where you get 70% of your revenue from, right?

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  10. Don: Bruce might not be aware of how things work but those investigation refrain from giving out a lot of information, primarily because they are still investigating!! He also seems to promote the MPB scam if these are his views. What always gets me is they never back up their own claims but find it very easy to question the claims that are contrary to their “agenda”. The tend to deflect, and change the subject.

    Not buying it Don! Why even bring it up until you have the complete story and can provide your sources and links to back up your story. I can assure you that if the Dept of Ag is investigating then they won’t have a problem with getting the word out.

    Don, let me ask you a question? Are you involved in MLM or network marketing? If so, what company at are you involved with?

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  11. Bruce Smith: I can assure you that if the Dept of Ag is investigating then they won’t have a problem with getting the word out.

    Bruce,

    USDA did not have a problem with getting the word out.

    There is an investigation under way. It is sourced properly. I have quoted USDA. You are free to believe it or not.

    http://patrickpretty.com/2010/09/03/bulletin-usda-conducting-review-of-food-stamp-claims-made-by-mpb-today-affiliates-we-take-this-matter-very-seriously-agency-says/

    http://patrickpretty.com/2010/09/24/bulletin-usda-following-specific-leads-in-mpb-today-matter-agencys-food-and-nutrition-arm-will-take-appropriate-action-as-needed/

    Patrick

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  12. Bruce, how many MLM’s are you involved in? I can count the number of companies I have any stake in without using any fingers or toes. ZERO. That is because I, like many others, see something to good to be true (or legal) in the majority of the wonderful opportunities people try to talk me into. And, if it’s too good to be true, it’s a scheme or a scam.

    Besides, can you say with absolute certainty that the USDA is NOT investigating MPB? At the rate these scams are being busted, their time will come. When that occurs, will you come back here and admit you were wrong?

    I’ll take the opinions of Patrick and many others before those ofMLMer’s simply because I question the way MLM people gather downlines and the lies they tell to acquire large downlines. More often than not, they should be prosecuted.

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  13. Don: cannot type, sorry. I was so rattled by Bruce’s logic…..

    Don, I just want you to know that I feel protected because of people like you! I can sleep at night not haiving to worry about the big bad MLM companies taking my $200 life savings! Thanks Don!

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  14. Bruce:

    So when you are going to answer my questions, and provide proof MPBToday is not an illegal pyramid scheme? You can prove it, right? Or are you avoiding answering because you can’t?

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  15. Lynn,

    Before I answer your question I will ask my question again! Are you involved in any MLM or Network Marketing comapany at this time? If, so what company are you in?

    I keep asking this question because if you are involved in MLM and tearing down another company then their might just be an agenda on your part. Even if your right I would still like to take a look at your company and see if you really walk the walk.

    Don’t know the company Mantra and never heard of Ken Russo. I am not involved with MPB or any other company at this time so I don’t have to prove anything to you. But I love the concept of residual income and I am looking for the right company.

    However, I keep thinking back to MPB! I just have a hard time believing that the people that post on this blog are really that concerned for the consumer. Just seems to me you have an axe to grind or something!

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  16. Bruce Smith: I just have a hard time believing that the people that post on this blog are really that concerned for the consumer. Just seems to me you have an axe to grind or something!

    I find it a sad commentary on the state of mind of many in society today when concern for others becomes so unusual as to attract comment from the “Bruce Smiths” of the world.

    What is even sadder is the fact that, rather than assuming the concern is driven by altruism, based on experience or simply because the poster/s have an innate sense of “what’s right” “Bruce” and others of his ilk automatically assume an evil intent on the part of those with contrary views.

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  17. LRM: I Couldn’t agree with you more.

    The sad thing, too, is that if the “Bruce Smith’s” of the world would do just a little research they’d see that this blog, and the long time posters, have been working to warn the public about flat out scams since 2008 and before.

    Helping warn others about internet scams is part of an altruistic, Christian society Mr. Smith and it’s very sad that you just can’t grasp that.

    ARWR

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  18. littleroundman: I find it a sad commentary on the state of mind of many in society today when concern for others becomes so unusual as to attract comment from the “Bruce Smiths” of the world.What is even sadder is the fact that, rather than assuming the concern is driven by altruism, based on experience or simply because the poster/s have an innate sense of “what’s right” “Bruce” and others of his ilk automatically assume an evil intent on the part of those with contrary views.

    Yes, I am one of the Bruce Smiths of the world and your response is the typical response you get when someone questions or disagrees
    with you. For example, the author of this site has stated that the Dept of Ag is investigating MPB but he can offer no such proof of an investigation. He just says he has his resources and to take his word for it. Well, I’m sorry but I can’t do that. And correct me if I am wrong but in looking back I think he initially made this claim back in early September but still nothing. I would like to have the information so that I can show someone who is already in this business. Never said anything about evil intent but because I raise questions I get labeled “me and my ilk”.

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  19. Bruce Smith: Lynn,Before I answer your question I will ask my question again! Are you involved in any MLM or Network Marketing comapany at this time? If, so what company are you in?I keep asking this question because if you are involved in MLM and tearing down another company then their might just be an agenda on your part. Even if your right I would still like to take a look at your company and see if you really walk the walk. Don’t know the company Mantra and never heard of Ken Russo. I am not involved with MPB or any other company at this time so I don’t have to prove anything to you. But I love the concept of residual income and I am looking for the right company. However, I keep thinking back to MPB! I just have a hard time believing that the people that post on this blog are really that concerned for the consumer. Just seems to me you have an axe to grind or something!

    Actually it has nothing to do with answering my questions. It is nothing more than a diversion attempt on your part. It is not that I won’t answer, it is just that is doesn’t make any difference. The merits of MPBToday should stand on their own, not if I was a member of another MLM.

    Now that you understand that point, at least I hope you do, NO. I am not involved in any MLM. In fact I guess I am that altruistic as I formed a company to help law enforcement shut-down these scams, and to educate the public about how to spot them and how to avoid becoming a victim of them. In fact I hope to have my book out this weekend explaining how they do it, and how to protect yourself. If you want to check out my company, just Google Eagle Research Associates, and you will find our URL.

    Now that I have anwered your question, why in the world are you trying to defend this illegal pyramid scheme if you are not a member? Talk about being disingenuous. You are what I call a shill, because I don’t buy your story. Just as you find it incomprehensible there are those of us who truly do look out for the public, I find it incomprehensible you would waste your time making all these posts if you were not part of this program.

    People who are not part of a program do not defend it as you have MPBToday. So forgive me for not buying your story you are not a member. For if you truly aren’t, then nothing you have said has any merit or truth. For someone who likes to brag about how much they know, you can’t even back up your statements about MPBToday with any facts. And you were concerned about our character, integrity and purpose. Doesn’t say a whole lot about yours does it.

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  20. Bruce Smith: For example, the author of this site has stated that the Dept of Ag is investigating MPB but he can offer no such proof of an investigation. He just says he has his resources and to take his word for it. Well, I’m sorry but I can’t do that.

    Unfortunately “Bruce” the important part of what you’ve said is “I can’t do that” as in the singular “you”

    As has been said on this blog before, this ain’t TV, which appears to be the source of knowledge of a great many scam victims and/or potential victims.

    Here’s a suggestion for you “Bruce”

    Make contact with a regulatory agency, (be it USDA, FBI, SEC, NFA, CFTC or Homeland Security) make a complaint, either via email, phone, in person or via the complaint form to be found on the relevant website.

    Make sure you provide as much “proof” to support your complaint and/or allegations as is possible.

    Then, sit back and wait.

    It may be a few days or even a few weeks.

    However,whatever the time taken, you will receive a reply, usually in a standardized form which will thank you for your time and effort and point out that, while your information is appreciated, the (insert relevant agency name) cannot respond individually to complaints, nor can it keep complainants advised of any progress.

    If your complaint is sufficiently detailed and/or judged to be valuable, and/or involves an ongoing investigation, you may or may not receive further correspondence requesting verification and/or further details from said agency.
    You will have to make a leap of faith here, and accept it most certainly DOES happen.

    HOWEVER, unlike an episode of “Law and Order” or “CSI” you will NOT be kept “in the loop” at least until AFTER the investigation is completed.

    As the good Mr Ripley was fond of saying “Believe it or not”

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  21. Bruce,

    First, NFW would I ever get involed in an MLM company — it is far too inefficient of a business model (Don’t believe that? Try naming just 10 Fortune 100 companies that rely on MLM for their sales structure. Can’t do it…..). If I were to get into an MLM, I’d check the math. The vast majority that I have observed are scams, since they’re set up as pyramids.

    Second, my offer to others applies to you as well. The $$$ of your choice, to charity, if you can disprove the mathematics that shows MPB to be unsustainable. If you can’t do so, your $$$ goes to my charity. The unsustainable nature is why laws exist prohibiting pyramid schemes.

    Analyzing MPB is really very simple. In order to get residual income from MPB, one must sign up two people and those two must also sign up two. In order for the first person to get income, 6 new people need to join. For persons 2 and 3, 8 more people must join. This continues until such time as the pyramid, errr…., business, collapses under its own weight or everyone on the planet has joined MPB. Eventually, the last people in are guaranteed to lose, just like any pyramid. It is not a matter of “working the business” as the MPB apologists will say. It is simply a matter of joining while there are still suckers out there. That’s how you “win” at MPB. Unfortunately, pyramid schemes are by law illegal, so while if you get in early, you may “win”, you are also committing a crime.

    Good luck finding a suitable business to generate income. Please just look at the math first before joining.

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  22. Bruce Smith: For example, the author of this site has stated that the Dept of Ag is investigating MPB but he can offer no such proof of an investigation.

    Actually, Bruce, the Department of Agriculture (USDA) has stated it is investigating, and I have related that information to readers by quoting USDA.

    Bruce Smith: And correct me if I am wrong but in looking back I think he initially made this claim back in early September but still nothing.

    Actually, USDA made this claim — and I related it to readers.

    Bruce Smith: I would like to have the information so that I can show someone who is already in this business.

    I’ve provided the links to the MPB Today stories, Bruce. You’re welcome to show them to “someone who is already in this business.”

    It might be a good idea to let that “someone” know that MPB Today was being promoted on the Ponzi and criminals’ forums, that those forums have been referenced in both civil and criminal prosecutions of Ponzi schemes, that a 2×2 matrix cycler known as Regenesis 2×2 was referenced by the U.S. Secret Service in a probe in the Seattle area, that Regenesis 2×2 also was promoted from the same forums that promoted MPB Today, that a Florida-based MLM known as AdSurfDaily (ASD) also is under investigation by the Secret Service, that ASD and its so-called clones also were promoted on the Ponzi boards, that some MPB Today promoters also may have links to the CEP Ponzi scheme, which also was pitched on the Ponzi boards.

    Or you could just send that “someone” the links I’ve provided you.

    Bruce Smith: I just have a hard time believing that the people that post on this blog are really that concerned for the consumer. Just seems to me you have an axe to grind or something!

    That is more or less what ASD President Andy Bowdoin told the troops. I’d suggest you read the August 2008 forfeiture complaint and accompanying evidence exhibits. Like “Jah” of Narc That Car, Bowdoin dismissed the critics as people who had axes to grind. (Quick side note: “Jah” also attacked the BBB and the PP Blog — and later might have set a new world record for MLM by displaying a copy of a check from an “opportunity” at the one-second mark in the video. This occurred after he announced he had left Narc That Car in favor of a new “opportunity.”)

    Bruce, have you noticed all the bank failures and foreclosures in Florida? Do you think it was an accident that Attorney General Holder ventured To Florida in January to introduce the Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force?

    I suggest you visit the SEC website and read all of the news releases/info pertaining to Florida in just the past two weeks. I also suggest you visit the websites of the U.S. Attorneys for both the Southern and Middle Districts of Florida.

    Meanwhile, you might want to read these stories:

    http://patrickpretty.com/2010/05/16/kaboom-agents-tie-alleged-evolution-market-group-ponzi-and-hyip-fraud-scheme-to-narcotics-case-in-arizona-tens-of-millions-of-dollars-seized-firms-promoted-on-asa-monitor-talkgold-forums/

    http://patrickpretty.com/2010/08/23/kaboom-feds-release-info-on-alpha-trade-group-forex-scheme-with-ties-to-mexico-panama-records-suggest-scheme-was-collapsing-even-prior-to-promos-on-talkgold-moneymakergroup-forums/

    http://patrickpretty.com/2010/05/31/kaboom-affidavit-in-pathway-to-prosperity-case-paints-picture-of-wanton-criminality-complaint-references-talkgold-asamonitor-moneymakergroup-posts-united-states-throws-down-gauntlet/

    http://patrickpretty.com/2010/05/31/requiem-for-the-forum-pimps-court-documents-in-legisi-case-reference-secret-service-moneymakergroup-ponzi-forum-sec-has-postings-from-legisis-private-forum-too/

    http://patrickpretty.com/2010/01/31/gni-becomes-this-years-asd-autosurfhyip-pimps-continue-to-cheerlead-ponzi-schemes-as-bank-failures-pile-up-in-the-united-states/

    Bruce Smith: I can sleep at night not haiving to worry about the big bad MLM companies taking my $200 life savings!

    Bruce, what is 30,000 x $200? What is 60,000 x $200?

    Also, have you seen any of the check-waving videos for MPB Today on YouTube that plainly show the name of a Pensacola bank that has been operating under a consent agreement with the FDIC since January?

    Patrick

    P.S. Did you know that, in May 2009, on the very same day President Obama announced the fraud crackdown, AVG announced it had an agreement with an offshore wire facilitator that enabled members to send it money? Did you know that AVG was born in Florida and had employees and members in common with ASD?

    And did you know that AVG’s purported, new facilitator later was banned by the National Futures Association and was linked to Trevor Cook, who pulled off a $190 million Ponzi scheme in Minnesota?

    There are 949 stories on this Blog, Bruce. You are welcome to read all of them.

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  23. Bruce Smith:
    However, I keep thinking back to MPB! I just have a hard time believing that the people that post on this blog are really that concerned for the consumer. Just seems to me you have an axe to grind or something!

    Bruce, You have a hard time believing that some people post because they are concerned for the consumer?? Well I suggest that you get over it.

    (I guess you’ll suggest that Mother Theresa of Calcutta had an axe to grind when she helped the poor in India next. lol)

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  24. I’m not sure if this will be of any value to anyone but one of the skills scam-dot-com taught me was how to dig deleted threads out of Google’s cache. That forum seemed to have something of a selective memory problem and from time to time it was important to help avoid posts from being consigned to the abyss. Google changes their algorithm from time to time and it seems some of my old tricks no longer work but for the time being the following links still show a good amount of the ASA MBToday thread, listed in order of page numbers:

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:j62-4PAX87wJ:www.asamonitor.com/forum/index.php%3Fshowtopic%3D19337+http://www.asamonitor.com/forum/index.php%3Fshowtopic%3D19337&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:eBJhEYexrGsJ:www.asamonitor.com/forum/index.php%3Fshowtopic%3D19337%26st%3D20+http://www.asamonitor.com/forum/index.php%3Fshowtopic%3D19337&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:AEF48ELLfJkJ:www.asamonitor.com/forum/index.php%3Fshowtopic%3D19337%26st%3D40+http://www.asamonitor.com/forum/index.php%3Fshowtopic%3D19337&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:UnzPCAPaupEJ:www.asamonitor.com/forum/index.php%3Fshowtopic%3D19337%26st%3D60+http://www.asamonitor.com/forum/index.php%3Fshowtopic%3D19337&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

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  25. Hello Glim,

    Thank you for these. Readers will find them helpful.

    It is nice to hear from you, Glim.

    Patrick

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  26. Thanks glim,

    Some entertaining reading there.

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  27. Hello Patrick,

    I have not saud very much here but I am banned from MCF until June 2015 and I have been on mod review at ASA for about two years as I offended “sharkeyshark” by saying that he was a small shark who would soom get swallowed by a naysayer like “okosh” on TalkGold. I can’t wait to get news of who devoured “sharkeyshark” for breakfast.

    The first person who tried to spread the yarm that I had a mental problem and that I suffered from serious personality disorders was a mate of Jake The Smake on ASA the dying or deceased Jack Cobb and “brookie”

    What did I say to deserve that reputation? I put up a web page about Krimm’s videos and it made Krimm a laighing stock. As you know more than I do about Internet history you are welcome to read it and see if I was very far off the mark with my comments for Krimm videos which I wrote in March 2007.

    http://path2prosperity.com/112krimm_videos.html

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  28. Judy:

    I think it was Wanrou who had Sharky, Emily and the other mods for breakfast since he was the one who pulled the plug.

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  29. This quote from Laidback on the cached ASA forum thread is one that promoters of “opportunities” should have in the forefront of their minds when they tell us that “they have been paid”

    Something that people should do as part of their due diligence is to look seriously at ALL aspects of an “opportunity’ not just who said they got paid or cycled or whatever the ‘buzz’ is…! Pay particular attention to the potential legality, because if it IS illegal, those aren’t profits, they are illegal gains.

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  30. Patrick

    I see you’re fan of mine. I got a little message for you;

    Click this link:http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?p=976320#post976320

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  31. Went to the link and found some of the most avid MLM supporters on the Web dismissing MPB Today as a pyramid. And your point is?

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