OWOW Defender And Phil Piccolo Apologist Demands To Know If PP Blog Is ‘Israeli’; Says Blog Spreads ‘Islamophobia’ And That Terror Scares Are ‘FAKE’; Suggests Cover-Up Followed 9/11 Attacks

Hours after the PP Blog published a story about the FBI foiling a bid to detonate a bomb targeted at American children and families at a Christmas tree lighting ceremony in Portland, Ore., a poster defending OWOW — the apparent successor company to Data Network Affiliates (DNA) — demanded to know if the Blog was “Israeli,” planted the seed that the Blog was racist and accused it of spreading “Islamophobia.”

“On a sep[a]rate note, [I] was shocked to discover that you are also spreading Islamophobia, so not only are you a two-bit hack, some might say that you are a racist,” a poster identified as “John” wrote in a comments thread below a Nov. 21 story that referenced OWOW. “For your information, most educated people know that the terror scares are FAKE, and that the Sept 11th attacks were carried out by another group, Israel being prime suspects.”

“John” also railed against the SEC, in response to a comment by the Blog that raised the question of whether OWOW, which is associated with Internet Marketer Phil Piccolo, was offering unregistered securities as investment contracts by advertising that it paid 24 percent annual interest to members who sent in money.

Piccolo has gained a reputation online as a “one-man Internet crime wave.” During a radio program in August, Piccolo threatened to sue critics and planted the seed that he could cause them to experience physical pain.

Rather than answering the question, John wrote, “The SEC? In between watching porn all day? The same SEC covering up the biggest financial crime i[n] history, IE the long term manipulation of the Gold and precious metals markets? That SEC?”

Earlier this year, the inspector general for the SEC said he was investigating reports that some SEC officials had used government computers to view pornography.  Such an announcement, though embarrassing to the agency,  did not legalize securities fraud or create a new defense for securities violations or potential securities violations.

DNA is a Nevada-registered company whose website is registered behind a proxy in the Cayman Islands. The company explained months ago that it registered the domain privately in the Caymans to prevent management from having to “put up with 100 stupid calls a day.”

Dean Blechman, DNA’s former CEO, resigned suddenly in February after just weeks with the firm, saying later that the company was engaging in “bizarre” conduct and a campaign of “misinformation and lies.”

Despite its Caymans’-registered domain, DNA asserted it was paying members of its multilevel-marketing (MLM) program to write down license-plate numbers at churches, “doctors’ offices” and retail outets such as Walmart. The plate numbers, according to DNA, would be entered into a database that was being developed to help law enforcement and the AMBER Alert program rescue abducted children.

The license-plate program raised privacy concerns, and no guidance was given members in the areas of propriety, legality and safety. DNA later morphed into a purported cell-phone company, proclaiming it had destroyed all competition on earth overnight by offering a free cell phone with unlimited talk and text for $10 a month.

Members flooded the Internet with ads. DNA later said that it had been hoodwinked by a vendor that had led it to believe it could deliver the $10 unlimited plan. In a bizarre email, the company acknowledged that it had not studied cell-phone pricing before declaring itself the world’s low-price leader. Just weeks before, the company sent an email to announce its cell-phone venture in which it made the all-caps claim of “GAME OVER — WE WIN.”

By July 4 — and with no new cell-phone plan announced to replace the failed venture — DNA said it was entering the mortgage-reduction and resorts businesses. The purported mortgage-reduction program was positioned as the “MORAL OBLIGATION’ of churches to promote.

Later in July the company announced it was selling a “protective spray” that would help buyers obscure the license-plate numbers of their cars to guard against getting traffic tickets. The spray purportedly would block cameras from snapping usable photos of the plates, and DNA said the spray protected against “wrongful ticketing by city cameras worldwide.”

DNA did not explain the incongruity of saying it supported law enforcement in its efforts to locate abducted children while at once working against law enforcement in its efforts to enforce traffic laws. Nor did DNA say whether it believed criminals who abducted children and sped off in cars would find the “protective spray” useful when making a getaway.

Even as DNA was announcing the availability of its purported “protective spray,” the company announced it soon would adopt a browser-based “DNA World Wide Alert Button” to let members know when a “child is reported missing in your immediate area.”

It is unclear of DNA ever developed such a button.

What is clear is that multiple domain names associated with the company now redirect to a website known as “One World, One Website” or OWOW.

Members have been prompted to send prospects an email that advertises a cure for cancer.

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Invest 90 Seconds to earn $4,600 to $46,000 Monthly
Send A Simple E-mail “The Secret Cure For Cancer”

JUST FORWARD THIS E-MAIL TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW…
YOUR PERSONAL WEBSITE IS EMBEDDED IN THIS E-MAIL…

Invest 90 Seconds + Send out a Simple Cure for Cancer e-mail… Earn $4,600 to $46,000 a Month within 100 days or less…

+++++++++++++++++++++++++
The Simple & Short E-mail
+++++++++++++++++++++++++

Most likely someone you love will die of Cancer or
some type of Flu type Disease and when it happens
you will say I wish I could have done something…

The SECRET CURE FOR CANCER…
Are you ready for the Simple & Secret CURE…
Here it is “DON’T GET IT”…

THE BOTTOM LINE IS
Take TurboMune & DON’T GET IT & If you GOT IT
Take TurboMune To Help You Get Rid You Of IT…

This product use to sell for $150 a capsule…
It currently sells in ASIA for $300 a bottle…
OWOW sells the product as low as $19.95 a bottle…

++++++++++++++++++
Invest 90 Seconds

The PP Blog first reported the existence of the email Saturday. The Blog also reported that Phil Piccolo had been a member of a company in California that had been expressly warned by the state not to make false and misleading claims in promotional materials and not to advertise that tax “write-offs” were available for joining an MLM company.

DNA advertised that members who recorded license-plate numbers on its behalf could qualify for hefty mileage deductions despite the fact that no evidence has surfaced that the firm’s license-plate program is a legitimate business.

“Did you know about your DNA Tax Benefits . . .” the DNA pitch began. “Imagine driving 10,000 miles for your DNA Business = up to a $5,000 Tax Deduction… “IRS Announces 2010 Standard Mileage Rates” IR-2009-111, Dec. 3, 2009… and this is just one of many…”

Less than enthused about the PP Blog’s reporting, “John” apparently embarked on a strategy of trying to discredit the Blog by advancing a conspiracy theory about the 9/11 attacks, the “the long term manipulation of the Gold and precious metals markets” and tying the Blog to Israel.

“John” even demanded that another poster answer a question about whether the Blog is “AN ISRAELI?” He also observed that “Millions consider the [Food and Drug Administration] to be a filthy cabal of criminals” and suggested there was nothing misleading about Piccolo’s cancer-cure email to OWOW members.

The Blog specifically asked “John” why someone would plant the seed that the OWOW TurboMune product cures cancer.

“THERE YOU GO AGAIN, wrong AGAIN, spreading lies AGAIN,” John claimed. “The email says ‘The Secret Cure For Cancer” IS ‘Dont get it.'”

“John” offered no comment on the part of the email that read, “THE BOTTOM LINE IS
Take TurboMune & DON’T GET IT & If you GOT IT Take TurboMune To Help You Get Rid You Of IT…”

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51 Responses to “OWOW Defender And Phil Piccolo Apologist Demands To Know If PP Blog Is ‘Israeli’; Says Blog Spreads ‘Islamophobia’ And That Terror Scares Are ‘FAKE’; Suggests Cover-Up Followed 9/11 Attacks”

  1. Let’s see, first this product sold for $150 a capsule, then it was selling for $300 a bottle in Asia, but now Phil is selling it for $19.95 a bottle, makes you wonder just how good is the quality of the product. It seems to be losing its potency fast don’t you think? But then what do you expect from Phil the one man crime wave.

    The statement: “THE BOTTOM LINE IS Take TurboMune & DON’T GET IT & If you GOT IT Take TurboMune To Help You Get Rid You Of IT…” just set grammar back 50 years, but this is Phil at his best.

    Why is it that all of a sudden all the looney birds are flocking to the MLM industry?

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  2. Note to John,

    Provide a link to the source material you are trying to publish in this space — and add your own comments, as opposed to copying and pasting long passages of text.

    I’ll publish it, if submitted in that fashion. I will not publish a 3,136 word “comment” that appears to be largely or wholly reproduced from elsewhere.

    Patrick

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  3. On the question “is Patrick an Israeli?”, I can exclusively reveal that, in fact, Patrick and most of the other naysayers who post here are really members of the “Babylonian Brotherhood”. Patrick, like his other reptilian brothers, spends most of the time living in tunnels and caverns inside the earth. He only pops up to post on this blog when he needs to replenish his supply of “monoatomic gold”. This is proved by the fact that this blog was down for a few days a few weeks ago – the supply of “monoatomic gold” had run too low to sustain the storage of the vast amounts of information on this blog, and Patrick was unable to shapeshift from reptilian to human form.

    If anyone is wondering, the article referenced by Phil, sorry, “John”, in the other thread, by Dr. Alan Sabrosky – “Israel Did 9/11” can be found on David Icke’s web site. Along with more bollox like in the paragraph above.

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  4. I’m done, i stick to my initial remarks. You and your website are a disgrace.

    Israel did 9/11 – All The Proof In The World.

    http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5367

    “Israel did 9/11, They did it”
    Dr Alan Sabrosky Phd
    Director of Studies, US Army War College

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  5. Before i go i want to make 1 thing clear, my views (The rogue state of Israel) are not the views of OWOW company or affiliates, they are my views, backed by considerable circumstantial evidence. Patrick, you might want to phone The FBI and ask them WHY Osama Bin Laden IS NOT wanted by them for 9/11. Give them a call!

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  6. Tony H
    http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/usama-bin-laden

    Maybe you can 3-way the FBI with Patrick and have them explain the following statement.

    “The FBI has no evidence linking Osama Bin Laden to the events of 9/11”
    FBI

    As for David Icke? Lunatic!

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  7. Don’t know if he is Israeli, but there is a rumor that he is reptile related (possibly from the lizard family) which is presently in the process of verification by independent sources

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  8. As for David Icke? Lunatic!

    I agree. This is the first part (of 10) of David Icke’s crack pot theory on 911:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kla04aSWpZc
    There’s 10 parts because David likes to go on a bit. No, I haven’t watched all 10.

    And on David Icke’s web site some of the “experts” discuss the story you referenced:
    http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=143487

    David Icke may have created a video here but it was removed by YouTube:
    http://www.davidicke.com/articles/911-mainmenu-33/31880-the-american-military-now-knows-mossad-carried-out-911-attacks-
    The removal of the video was obviously done at the request of the reptile aliens who feed on the disquiet of the human race.

    Phil, sorry, John, if you are going to post crack pot idiot conspiracy theories here, you will never do a better job than The Son of The God-head himself.

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  9. John (Phil), for someone who is leaving, you sure won’t shut up!!! So leave, already!!!

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  10. I agree with Don, Leave already and take your crackpot theories with you.

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  11. To be honest, I think posters such as “John” should be encouraged to continue posting.

    What better evidence could anyone find as to the legitimacy of DNA, OWOW and Piccolo than from the mouths of the sycophants themselves ???

    IM(very)HO, A couple of postings from “John” and his ilk does more for the cause than 3 or 4 pages of dry facts and statistical analysis.

    Let’s face it, no one who believes David Icke and his conspiracy theories is gonna believe ANYTHING referencing the law and/or reality.

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  12. I can remember a post on the ASD Surf’s Up forum with the subject “Have you seen this”. It went on to discuss “The Bilderberg Group”. Of course, David Icke was there before them:
    http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/36969-david-icke-on-secret-societies-and-the-bilderberg-group

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  13. Dear John:

    I am a proud Jew!

    Jack Arons

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  14. You it really p***es me off when people start using hate sites and racism to defend their arguments. Anti-semetism and islamphobia are equally disgusting and say more about their followers than the people they wish to get us to hate. And WTF has this got to do with dubious multilevel marketing schemes?

    If they were such legitimate businesses you would expect them to defend themselves in the convential and credible way with verified data and not “ad hominem attacks” (and a copy paste of a list of studies into a generic product, do not constitute FDA approval for a specific product manufactured under a specific brand name)

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  15. (and is it true that Patrick really is an alien? Wow, or should I say OWOW!)

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  16. I can remember a post on the ASD Surf’s Up forum with the subject “Have you seen this”. It went on to discuss “The Bilderberg Group”. Of course, David Icke was there before them:
    http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/36969-david-icke-on-secret-societies-and-the-bilderberg-group

    Hello Tony,

    Is that the forum that made the good folks pledge they weren’t government spies or government investigators? If I recall, Master Le advanced his notions on that forum and members who visited Surf’s Up tried to inspire the Surf’s Up folks to see the conspiracy.

    Legisi had a similar, super-secret forum.

    Patrick

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  17. Lil Ol’ Radical Me

    “You it really p***es me off when people start using hate sites and racism to defend their arguments. Anti-semetism and islamphobia are equally disgusting and say more about their followers than the people they wish to get us to hate. And WTF has this got to do with dubious multilevel marketing schemes?”

    What does a mental defective 17 year old “framed” by the FBI have to do with
    dubious multilevel marketing schemes? Yes, it does look like he was a patsy, they always are, every time!

    I have already said, these are my views, not the company. Patrick started this by playing the “terror” card on his site, this i found to be suspicious. DO NOT call me a racist. I’m against criminals and the state of Israel is harbouring the most heinous, disgusting criminals on earth, including those suspected of blowing up NYC. As for the hate sites, it was you lot who brought up nutjob David Icke, not me!

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  18. Tony

    Are you a proud jew (you should be, no problem with me) or a proud Zionist (racist supremacist)?
    Come out right now and answer this question.

    And then answer this…
    Do you support the 78% of Zionist Israeli’s who in a poll said
    that if the Palestinians cannot be made to “MOVE OUT”, then it would
    be justified to kill them?

    Do you support this -YES OR NO?

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  19. What does a mental defective 17 year old “framed” by the FBI have to do with
    dubious multilevel marketing schemes?

    Probably nothing, John. Your reaction to the story on the alleged Portland bomb plot is newsworthy, though. It does not surprise me that you’ve positioned the arrest of the teenager, who is actually 19, as an FBI “framing” — all while suggesting he is a “patsy.”

    And yet you’d have me call the FBI to “ask them WHY Osama Bin Laden IS NOT wanted by them for 9/11.”

    So, one one hand, you’d like readers to believe the FBI cannot be trusted and “framed” the Portland suspect. On the other, you suggest the same FBI is a reliable source on matters pertaining to Bin Laden.

    You know, John, the United States now has had airplanes, “underwear bombs” and “toner bombs” directed at it — and now a car bomb in Oregon after an earlier car bomb in New York. This Blog does concern itself with issues of national security.

    In my view, a number of MLMs and MLMers are being extremely reckless in what they promote and how they promote it. Tremendous sums of money have gone missing in the Age of Terrorism. This creates an untenable security situation whether you like it or not.

    Patrick started this by playing the “terror” card on his site, this i found to be suspicious.

    No, John, I did not start this by playing the “terror card” on my site.

    What happened, precisely, is that I reported on the Portland incident — and you reacted with vile and venom, introduced conspiracy theories and tried to drag Israel and the purported “cabal” at the FDA and the alleged porn-watchers at the SEC into a discussion thread about OWOW. You even demanded that a reader declare whether or not I am “AN ISRAELI.”

    That’s what happened, John.

    You’ve hurt your fellow OWOW distributors by doing so and created bad publicity for the company. That you appear not to be bothered by Piccolo’s cancer-cure email won’t inspire the confidence of affiliates who find that marketing approach reprehensible — just another thing that gives MLM a bad name.

    I’m also aware, of course, that you shared your feelings earlier about what you described as “Christian common law” and the Federal Reserve conspiracy:

    http://patrickpretty.com/2010/09/11/editorial-animated-attack-on-obama-goes-missing-from-mpb-today-affiliates-sales-arsenal-pp-blog-declines-request-from-affiliates-mlm-sponsor-to-remove-story-that-describes-bizarre-sales-pitch-pa/comment-page-1/#comment-12698

    http://patrickpretty.com/2010/09/11/editorial-animated-attack-on-obama-goes-missing-from-mpb-today-affiliates-sales-arsenal-pp-blog-declines-request-from-affiliates-mlm-sponsor-to-remove-story-that-describes-bizarre-sales-pitch-pa/comment-page-1/#comment-12693

    Like Piccolo, you have defined yourself as a Christian, John. I have trouble reconciling that claim against your recent rants. I also have trouble reconciling Piccolo’s claims of Christianity, given his performance on the radio show and the various incongruous claims that came out of DNA — and now, OWOW.

    That OWOW apparently sees this as an appropriate way to do business and to motivate the troops to do business tells me all I need to know about the company.

    BTW, its 24 percent interest offer sounds very much like a promissory notes scam to me. Regardless, I’d be surprised if people in appreciable numbers have turned over money to OWOW.

    If I’m wrong about that — and if people in appreciable numbers did turn over money to OWOW — I’d be very worried about the cancer-cure email. That kind of thing can put the entire enterprise at risk — not that its purported license-plate program is any less risky.

    Patrick

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  20. John, you left, remember? So shut up! No one, other than yourself, really gives a flying carp what you think, believe, envision, hope for, or make up in your deluded mind. If anyone is against anything, we are against people like you, who spew ridiculous “facts” as some sort of justification for your own particular mental illness. Besides, you are defending a snake oil business, promising a medical benefit you made up along with your Zionist drivel.

    I am a Catholic, I have no problem with Jews, Gentiles, Muslims, or even theocratical deists. What I DO have a problem with is people who rip off others for the sake of profits, which is the real problem with corporate America, greed. I hope you find a nice, quiet place, preferable with iron bars on the windows, where you can find a different kind of captive audience.

    The biggest proof that you are totally wrong, evil or insane is that Patrick is allowing your posts to be visible to the world. You are lower than low, Phil.

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  21. Admin
    “You know, John, the United States now has had airplanes, “underwear bombs” and “toner bombs” directed at it — and now a car bomb in Oregon after an earlier car bomb in New York. This Blog does concern itself with issues of national security.”

    Yes Patrick i have no doubt you have genuine concerns about “National Security”, the question is WHICH NATIONS SECURITY?

    “A German government minister has today revealed that a fake bomb found on an Air Berlin flight in Namibia was manufactured in the U.S. to test airport security.”

    Patrick, i’m not buying your snake oil Zionist terrorism so that Israeli
    scum bags like Micheal Chertoff (9/11 suspect) can fill his pockets by turning US Airports into locked down prisons, for money.

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  22. Ha ha ha ha. You really got nothing do you scammer? Go troll someone else’s blog.

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  23. Patrick, i’m not buying your snake oil Zionist terrorism so that Israeli
    scum bags like Micheal Chertoff (9/11 suspect) can fill his pockets by turning US Airports into locked down prisons, for money.

    Quick note to readers. Michael Chertoff is a former federal prosecutor who rose to national prominence for the prosecutions of mafia figures. He also was instrumental in exposing the colossal fraud that was Enron.

    Chertoff went on to become U.S. Attorney for the District of New Jersey, head of the Criminal Division of the U.S. Department of Justice, a federal appeals judge and the secretary of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. Chertoff is a co-author of the Patriot Act.

    On a side note, some of the Mafia prosecutions were conducted in the courtroom of then-U.S. District Judge Maryanne Trump Barry, now a federal appeals judge. Judge Trump Barry is the sister of Donald Trump.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1989/03/08/nyregion/trial-in-jersey-may-highlight-mob-operations.html

    Judge Trump Barry, a former federal prosecutor, handed down harsh, no-nonsense sentences in the mafia cases.

    Later court filings speak of an alleged Mafia plot to murder Judge Trump Barry, Chertoff and Samuel Alito, now a Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court. Alito was known for prosecuting mafia figures and drug traffickers while serving as an assistant U.S. Attorney in the District of New Jersey.

    Patrick

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  24. You missed a bit Patrick.

    Assistant Attorney General Michael Chertoff was “top dog” at the FBI during the “non-investigation” of 9/11, in which the crucial steel evidence was destroyed in Asian smelters before being examined by engineers. Chertoff’s Israeli mother, Livia Eisen, was one of the first Mossad agents. An Israeli by birth, Michael spent much of his childhood in Israel.

    CNN interview with Mr. Chertoff, admits relationship to body scanners manufacturer.
    http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/h

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  25. If I recall, Master Le advanced his notions on that forum and members who visited Surf’s Up tried to inspire the Surf’s Up folks to see the conspiracy.

    What was that Reptile Alien Overlord conspiracy organisation that Master Le was associated with? I thought it was NESRA, but that seems to be something to do with bigfoot.

    Tony

    Are you a proud jew (you should be, no problem with me) or a proud Zionist (racist supremacist)?
    Come out right now and answer this question.

    I feel warm & fuzzy.

    Once more, David Icke is there:
    http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/38819-the-zionist-billionaires-who-control-political-discourse
    There’s more, much more crack pot “zionist” nonsense on David Icke’s site.

    Why is it that the MLM/Ponzi supporters are also believers in daft conspiracies? The ASD supporters and the “sovereign citizen” stuff, Master Le & the alien mothership. Now we have Phil, sorry, John and the “zionist” rantings.

    Please keep posting Phil, sorry, John, you are doing a great job. Can you come up with a conspiracy theory that David Icke hasn’t written about?

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  26. “John,” please stop insulting our intelligence.

    Unlike you, many of the readers here have brains and know how to use them.
    And I do not mean in the sense of zombie cuisine.

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  27. John I want to personally thank you for proving my point in my lead-off comment.

    Louis Farrakhan says their is a “Mother Ship/Giant Wheel” floating above the world just waiting to attack the white man and replace whites with blacks in power at just the right moment in time. He also claims he has 1500 smaller planes from this wheel that follow him around all the time. Of course he is the only one who can see them of course. He seems to have more people believing his theory than you do with yours. So who’s right?

    But you do have one thing in common…he hates Jews just like you do. And you call Patrick a racist. Are you just delusional or do you need to go back on your meds?

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  28. For those who are eagerly waiting for the return of the reptile aliens, there may be good news later this week:
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/30/nasa_aliens_revelations/
    Or will THE TRUTH be covered up by a Zionist conspiracy? Will NASA reveal the truth about the reptile aliens, or will they cover it up by saying they found an exo-planet made of sticky mud? I’m sure that someone like Phil, sorry John, will endeavour to expose the truth.

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  29. Why is it that the MLM/Ponzi supporters are also believers in daft conspiracies?

    Tony,

    I think it’s because the walls, ceilings and floors around them start caving in and collapsing. The only thing left to cling to is a good conspiracy theory.

    Some of the “programs” are so implausible that affiliates naturally have to create an artificial reality that at once explains why they joined the programs to begin with while serving up a third party (EvilGUBMent/Complict Media) to take the blame when the schemes are exposed or begin to collapse.

    This incongruity was on full display, of course, when Surf’s Up railed against Big Brother while at once serving as the Thought Police. The mixed messages were impossible to reconcile: the Secret Service was “Satan,” Bowdoin was a fine “Christian,” the prosecutor was “Gomer Pyle” and deserved to suffer in a medieval torture rack, the attorney general deserved to be brought up on charges for having the gall to suggest ASD was operating illegally, the U.S. Senate should advocate on behalf of ASD, Bill O’Reilly should advocate on behalf of ASD (after receiving packets of Kool-Aid in the mail), Sen. Leahy should advocate on behalf of ASD, Glenn Beck should advocate on behalf of ASD, President Obama should advocate on behalf of ASD, etc.

    It’s gotten even stranger from there. Now we have a purported Christian purportedly advocating for ASD members. His history includes filing a lien for $9.24 BILLION and trying to attach the assets and furnishings of a hospital enterprise named after St. Francis of Assisi and St. Clare.

    To top it off, “John” — with OWOW — now instructs us that Israel pulled off the 9/11 attacks and that Michael Chertoff, the former secretary of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, is a “suspect” in the attacks. “John,” remarkably, also would have readers believe this Blog is a shill for Israel and is spreading anti-Muslim propaganda by reporting on the foiled bomb plot in Portland.

    On a side note, the very first promos I saw for DNA and Narc That Car were on the old Golden Panda Ad Zone forum, which means some of the earliest people in DNA and Narc were members of ASD, Golden Panda or both.

    Some of the earliest promoters’ “defenses” for DNA and Narc were strikingly similar to the “defenses” for ASD and, now, OWOW.

    One of the early defenders for Narc here — “Charlie” — fractured the facts and made various obtuse claims. “Charlie” observed that the critics were using “hate filled words” and demanded that they “Go tear down someones else’s dreams.”

    The “F” from the BBB soon followed. It wasn’t long after that that Narc changed its name to Crowd Sourcing International. The original name had been poisoned by all sorts of bizarre claims, including a claim by one member that Narc was helping the Department of Homeland Security ferret out terrorists.

    Patrick

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  30. Lynndel ‘Lynn’ Edgington

    “But you do have one thing in common…he hates Jews just like you do.”

    No, i do not hate “Jews”. Zionism is a political movement, just like Republicans or Democrats. In the 1920’s-1940’s 85% of jews were DEAD SET AGAINST ZIONISM! They were right to be against it, look at the mess in the middle east. The Torah forbids exactly what the Zionists have done!

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  31. Look. you lot despise mlm, fine, i despise the advertising and shopping mall industry, it is merely a difference in business philosophy, that’all.
    Lets draw a line, we all want to make money and make a difference and i do not doubt that this site HAS exposed criminals, however Phil to my knowledge is not a criminal, far from it, business failures yes, along with some amazing achievements, colourful person yes, thank goodness the world has people who can think bigger than the box.

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  32. Scamming is not a business philosophy. You despise advertising yet have to do it to possibly make money. Very funny. You still got nuthin’. And yes, Phil is a criminal……..much like you are. My getting out of bed every morning is a far greater achievement than Phil could ever accomplish.

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  33. I think it’s because the walls, ceilings and floors around them start caving in and collapsing. The only thing left to cling to is a good conspiracy theory.

    Yes, that makes sense. As many of the MLM/Ponzi HYIPs players and operators jump from scam to scam, they need to blame someone when the scheme falls apart. The evilgovernment get targeted when they see 12DailyPro, CEP, ASD and others taken down. Those that fail due to the operator running away with the cash, or simply due to disinterest could be blamed on some bizarre conspiracy theory. As more fail the theories get wilder. I guess it doesn’t take too long to get to the reptile aliens and the “Zionists”.

    Look. you lot despise mlm, fine, i despise the advertising and shopping mall industry, it is merely a difference in business philosophy, that’all.

    That’s true. I don’t know too many high street health food shops that claim that an extract from bakers yeast will cure cancer. Or entering car license plate numbers into a database will help to feed starving children. Also, I don’t think I would be asked if I was a Zionist if I walked into my local Holland & Barrett.

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  34. When a strongly pro-MLM, pro-HYIP site such as moneymakergroup.com refers to Phil as “The man you can’t trust,” yet someone like YOU can’t figure out he’s sleazy, John.. just how many paper bags of spraypaint fumes do you huff per day?

    I mean, in 2007, even Team AaronShara (well-known serial Ponzi/scam promoters themselves) were referring to him as a crook.

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  35. By and large, we do not “despise” MLM in general, just the MLM’s who knowingly promote and/or run things they know to be scams, sell fake health products, HYIP’s and promoters who hide behind the term “Christian” in order to promote themselves and their snake oil.I have nothing against people earning a living but stealing, under any guise, is wrong.

    No amount of rhetoric will change what is morally and legally wrong.

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  36. John: You are too funny. Phil has had some failures and successes? The only thing Phil has succeeded at is taking people’s money and keeping it. But here are just a few of his “failures:”

    MLM Bank; aaTCM.com; 1995Plan; OneSource; Laundry CD; Matol; Nutrition For Life; thewwwlink.com; ReferEveryone.com; thetwentyteam.com; YourFreeMall.com; Magnetrol Liquid Enhancer and Shower Vitalizer; Free4UOnline.com; OneQwest.com; GECC; Nourishthechildren.com; HelpingHands.com; Travelogia.com; UNS1; RxPPC; RxFHL; Magic Shower; PowerHealth International; PrivatePage; Lites Out Strips; PAP System.com; TravelAgent99.com; PreRegisterForFree.com; YTB-Your Travel Business; DubaiMLM; TPP: MYWFL.com (Warranties For Less); and 4E-Corp.

    Yep, a real successful businessman. But let’s not forget Phil’s claim, and I quote:

    “After 20 plus years, this will be the last e-mail that I write to you. As of January 31, 2007 I am retiring from MLM and will no longer be involved with any MLM company nor will I be interested in becoming involved in any future MLM opportunity. I am totally and completely finished with the MLM Industry. I am in the process of selling all of my interests to third-party investors and cutting all ties with my current programs. (personal letter continues below the following advertisement)”

    So much for it being Phil’s last MLM business. Too bad because so many people were praying it was true, but then no-one really believed Phil. He did not get the nickname “the one man crime wave” for nothing. Want to try again about the virtues of Phil?

    As for your claim you don’t hate Jews, interesting since you blame them for everything and call them names. I hate to think what you would be saying if you did ‘hate’ them.

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  37. Whip
    “And yes, Phil is a criminal……..much like you are.”

    Please remove the personal slander or print your name and address.

    Lynndel ‘Lynn’ Edgington

    YTB? Phil was a distributor, not an owner. What’s your point?
    “The only thing Phil has succeeded at is taking people’s money and keeping it”
    Where are these people? Where?

    Your other points were covered on Aces Live Radio, remember? The NO SHOW SHOW, where we got the full story, and YOU LOT DID NOT HAVE THE GUTS TO ASK 1 SINGLE QUESTION, just like you have not answered 1 SINGLE QUESTION here.

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  38. Please remove the personal slander or print your name and address.

    WOOHOO !!!!! Another “Law and Order Lawschool” graduate.

    I’ll tell you what “John”

    Have your people contact my people, we’ll do lunch and I’ll give your legal representatives all the details they need to file a civil complaint with a court.

    Oh, and that word you’re looking for is D-I-S-C-L-O-S-U-R-E.

    It’s one of my favourite words, unlike Mr Piccolo, who suffers excretory problems every time he sees it.

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  39. John’s claimed last name wouldn’t happen to be “Nocton,” now, would it?

    Seems that’s one of Phil’s known sycophants, or perhaps alter egos.

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  40. Whip
    “And yes, Phil is a criminal……..much like you are.”Please remove the personal slander or print your name and address.

    Whip is my name. Don’t like it, too bad. How do we know ‘John’ is yours? We don’t and you have proven to be a liar so……..
    And as always, you have no idea what you are talking about…slander is spoken, libel is written. Don’t like the truth pointed out, stop participating in scams and stealing from others under false pretenses. That makes you a criminal. Dealing with Piccolo makes you a criminal.
    You said you were leaving? Not surprising though, yet another lie from a scamming scumbag.

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  41. John’s claimed last name wouldn’t happen to be “Nocton,” now, would it?Seems that’s one of Phil’s known sycophants, or perhaps alter egos.  

    I read somewhere that it was proven to be another Piccolo psuedonym.

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  42. You said you were leaving? Not surprising though, yet another lie from a scamming scumbag.

    Aww,

    don’t make him go away.

    Just when I was getting excited at the thought one of these loudmouths might actually follow through with his hollow threats and institute legal action.

    What a riot the disclosure session of THOSE court proceedings would be.

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  43. Aww,don’t make him go away.Just when I was getting excited at the thought one of these loudmouths might actually follow through with his hollow threats and institute legal action.What a riot the disclosure session of THOSE court proceedings would be.  

    Funny how ole Lenny or Drooley aren’t running to this clown’s defense. This is suppose to be a legit (lollerz) mlm right?

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  44. Funny how ole Lenny or Drooley aren’t running to this clown’s defense.

    You’ve got to feel for Troy Dooley.

    Imagine the situation he finds himself in with his stated position of defending the latest MLM du jour no matter what, and then THIS comes along.

    Now we know what happens when poetic justice collides head on with karma.

    Credibility down the gurgler, much ????

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  45. Last post AND IT’S A BOMBSHELL…leaving this site with ZERO creds and posing the question again, WHO IS THIS WEBSITE REALLY PROTECTING?

    The Madoff Double Bluff

    by Muhammad Rafeeq
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11488

    LOL..ROFLOL…
    MORONIC…WRONG…CRAP ANALYSYS…WRONG…HALFWITS…SCUMBAGS!

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  46. Actually, slander is verbal and libel is written.

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/slander

    Unless you use a screen reader, I would suggest suing for libel or you might not even get your arguments heard in court. LRM has been dying to get one of the “program defenders” into discovery…but unfortunately nobody ever follows through on their threats.

    Please remove the personal slander or print your name and address.

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  47. I guess I should have also posted all the aka’s of Phil. If he is so legit, why so many aliases? But John I really do want to thank you for the great laugh. One of the best I have had in a while. You sound just as delusional as Phil, so wouldn’t be surprised if you are him.

    By the way, if you have never had an anal exam, please, please sue LRM or for that matter me. Just remember, when we give an anal exam we don’t use anethesia, KY or rubber gloves. We use Lava soap and cactus.

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  48. John’s claimed last name wouldn’t happen to be “Nocton,” now, would it?

    Yes, I have thought so since Phil, sorry, John, started posting comments in one of the DNA related stories. Even back then he seemed to have a great deal of knowledge about Phil The Crime Wave, and yet has only posted positive things about Phil, and DNA. This is despite the fact that Phil is a well known scam artist having operated numerous pyramid schemes in the past.

    I guess I should have also posted all the aka’s of Phil.

    You must have plenty of spare time.

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  49. Note to John,Provide a link to the source material you are trying to publish in this space — and add your own comments, as opposed to copying and pasting long passages of text.I’ll publish it, if submitted in that fashion. I will not publish a 3,136 word “comment” that appears to be largely or wholly reproduced from elsewhere.Patrick  

    I have a better suggestion for John the FREAK… go get your OWN website, you loser.

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