Did Zeek Give Puff Piece To Rep Who Signed Petition For U.S. Senate To Investigate AdSurfDaily Prosecutors And U.S. Secret Service Agent?

NOTE: 10:46 A.M. EDT: Certain references to “Aaron” (below) in the context of “Aaron and Shara” have been deleted, pending the resolution to a report we received that disputed certain information.

Question: Did the Zeek Rewards MLM “program” that plants the seed it provides a return of between 1 percent and 2 percent a day without constituting an investment opportunity give a puff piece to an affiliate who signed a petition in 2008 that called for the U.S. Senate to investigate the federal prosecutors and the U.S. Secret Service agent who brought the AdSurfDaily Ponzi case?

Answer: It certainly appears so.

Zeek ran this puff piece on “Charter Diamond” affiliate Jerry Napier of “Michigan” on July 25, 2011.

Separately, this classified ad for Zeek from “Jerry Napier” of Owosso, Mich., ran on Nov. 17, 2011.

On Dec. 30, 2008, “Jerry Napier” of Owosso, Mich., signed a petition that called for the U.S. Senate to investigate (see No. 1897 on the petition) then-U.S. Attorney General Michael Mukasey; then U.S. Attorney Jeffrey Taylor of the District of Columbia; then-lead ASD prosecutor William Cowden; and Roy Dotson, a special agent of the U.S. Secret Service, according to ipetitions.com.

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“Whereas, we as Americans have a right to advertise with any company without interferences [sic] by [sic] Attorney General and /or any of its agents,” the petition began. “Whereas, Ad Surf Daily [sic] hereafter (ASD) [sic] an advertising company on the internet were [sic]  members received re-bates [sic] for advertising and looking at other advertising sites, thus purchase [sic] products and services.”

In August 2008, the U.S. Secret Service and federal prosecutors brought the first of at least three civil-forfeiture actions in the ASD Ponzi case. Those actions were parallel to a criminal investigation that ultimately led to the arrest of ASD President Andy Bowdoin in December 2010 and his guilty plea to wire fraud last month.

ASD, like Zeek, planted the seed that it paid a daily return on the order of 1 percent.

Meanwhile, “Jerry Napier” is listed as a top Zeek earner on Ted Nuyten’s “Business For Home” Blog in a post dated March 18, 2012.

Among the other top Zeek earners listed in the post are “Aaron and Shara” and Trudy Gilmond. “Aaron and Shara” is a veteran HYIP team.

Gilmond, whom Zeek identifies as a Zeek “employee” on its website, once was a promoter of a scheme known as Regenesis 2X2, which became the subject of a U.S. Secret Service probe in 2009.

The 2008 petition calling for the Senate to investigate the ASD prosecutorial team also includes “Catherine Parker” as a signatory (on Page 33, Nos. 1604 and 1605). “Catherine Parker” was quoted in emails that became part of the ASD story. (See such an attribution on AdLandPro, a site from which ASD was promoted.)

Zeek lists a “Catherine Parker” as an “employee.”

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31 Responses to “Did Zeek Give Puff Piece To Rep Who Signed Petition For U.S. Senate To Investigate AdSurfDaily Prosecutors And U.S. Secret Service Agent?”

  1. So in other words, a former ASD affiliate, who signed a petition to launch a frivolous investigation against the folks who brought down ASD, is now a top Zeekhead?

    Nothing wrong with moving to “bigger and better offers”… but it seems these people only knows how to pick something FAMILIAR to them, doesn’t it?

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  2. Patrick:

    I think the program you mention was “Regenesis 2×2” not “Renenesis 2X2”. Probably just a typo on your end, eh? :)

    ARWR

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  3. ARWR: I think the program you mention was “Regenesis 2×2? not “Renenesis 2X2?. Probably just a typo on your end, eh? :)

    Fixed typo at 12:27 p.m., ARWR. Thanks.

    Patrick

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  4. Seems maybe bowdoin didn’t have to name many names at all. They handed it to them on a platter with the ‘petition’. lol.

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  5. The top earners there is missing a lot of people. There are many earning over $360k per year. There are 12 earning over $1M/month according to Zeek corporate.

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  6. Jimmy: The key words in your post is “According to Zeek corporate.” There is no assurance this is true. That’s the problem with these Ponzi’s. You never know the truth from lies when it comes to what people are making.

    Now, do I believe that some got paid that much? Yes, but I also doubt it was from being in Zeek alone. Most Ponzi’s pay their people to post these type of earnings. It is all smoke and mirrors.

    What is even nuttier is that some people end up paying far more than the retail price for their “low winning bid” for the item they won. The problem is they don’t bother to figure out just how much the item really did cost them. Even the auction is not what it seems.

    But all is not well in Zeek. Now there is a Diamond who stated the following: My Diamond account vaporized with my Monies and new Diamond affiliate commission. You can bet he is not the only one this is happening, and the only question is how many more are in his shoes?

    The wheels are coming off this bus far faster than I had first imagined. This is on the brink of total collapse despite what Troy Dooly or any of the executive team or promoters say.

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  7. Whip: Seems maybe bowdoin didn’t have to name many names at all. They handed it to them on a platter with the ‘petition’. lol.

    Don’t believe that for a minute, millions of dollars in restitution went unclaimed which kind of makes me think a lot of people would rather give up their money than let the authorities know who they are.

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  8. I believe Zeek corporate was accurate in saying that the top 12 earners are getting over $1M/month in profit share. Now they have to repurchase VIP points because the points expire in 90 days, but their gross earnings are $1M/month. They can simply switch to 70% reinvestment and still pocket $300k/month and still keep their point balance growing.

    I have seen many back offices in mid 6 figures and know there is a new batch of affiliates that will soon hit 1M so the payouts will keep getting larger and larger until the ponzi collapses.

    Although Zeek Rewards is a ponzi and their explanations on many issues are suspect (they are hiding the real problems), the one part where they have been steadfastly consistent on is the payouts on VIP points (banking issues notwithstanding). What I men is they aren’t paying some and not others and they give the same profit share rate to everyone instead of cheating by giving some less and some more.

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  9. I’m not sure if anyone else uses VLC media player but I found something a little interesting. When you set to enter a URL for streaming media you can see a list of all the URLs you’ve streamed from in the past. I was fixing to input the address for a radio station when I saw a URL in my list I don’t presently recall listening to. That URL is:

    http://dcolive.com/CDN/ZR/CC/QAZeekEhcemts_call_110804.mp3

    Down side, the call is over an hour long but the upside is that the call moderator is our old friend Terralynn Hoy. I’d draw your attention to about five minutes into the call when Dawn recalls a conversation with Jerry Napier. Jerry was quoted as loving ZR and never wanting to have to build another organization with another program and mentioned a previous program and the litigation it was still facing and he mentioned “similarities” between ZR and that previous program. Jerry recommended that ZR hire Gerry Nehra and Dawn referred to this as having happened in the past tense (on a call recorded August 8th of 2011. But more interesting still was Dawn quoting “Dr.Keith Laggos actually proved that model not to be ponzi, can you hire him too.” Jerry was given heart felt thanks for that information. Can there be much reasonable doubt that the “previous program” Jerry was speaking of was anything other than Andy Bowdoin’s Ad Surf Daily?

    Again, this was last August back when VIP bid purchases were automatically converted into VIP points without bothering to sign up a bogus account to send the bids to first (but just before ZR would sell you bogus accounts themselves). Compliance for ZR is window dressing at best and a Tijuana donkey show at worst (hint, ZR members aren’t the donkey). The call I liked to shows Dawn and Paul knew exactly what they were doing and that they were receiving help from the steroidal puppeteers in how best to do it.

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  10. Well, they have issues as one of their diamonds said his account suddenly disappeared and so did his commission for his sale of another diamond under him. Seems all pleadings with the management team have been ignored. He even sent registered letters to Paul and a couple of other exec’s with no reply.

    Now the question is how many “others” is this happening to and will it be the start of the collapse of ZR? Right now they have more fires burning than the wildfires in New Mexico and Colorado, and they are out of control. Not good for ZR members.

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  11. Well it is just another red letter day in the history (being the operative word) of Zeek Rewards transparency, their affiliate support forum is now “members only”. I predict that ZR will gain a few free members in the next few days just so folks like us can read up on issues like the magic disappearing diamonds. I don’t blame Paul and Dawn, their support forum was the worst sort of advertising they could imagine and limiting the number of people reading that forum is the very definition of damage control.

    To Mr. Troy Dooly, on an emotional level I find you very hard not to like, you’re a big gregarious bald dude and I honestly believe that you are trying to help people. That counts for a lot in my book. But to paraphrase Ross Perot that giant whooshing sound you just heard was a large chunk of Zeek Rewards transparency heading off shore (much like they’re credit card processing). My question for you sir is this, when are you going to stop being a parrot repeating the things that Paul and Dawn told you and when are you going to start investigating these things for yourself? Zeek Rewards is trading off your name, they are using you and your professional reputation to help market themselves. How many red flags are you going to ignore before you realize that your own good name is at stake here?

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  12. Jimmy: Although Zeek Rewards is a ponzi and their explanations on many issues are suspect (they are hiding the real problems), the one part where they have been steadfastly consistent on is the payouts on VIP points (banking issues notwithstanding).What I men is they aren’t paying some and not others and they give the same profit share rate to everyone instead of cheating by giving some less and some more.

    What I find confusing about your post, Jimmy, is that on one hand you’re acknowledging Zeek is a ponzi, yet on the other you choose to believe Zeek is being “honest” WRT its’ “payouts”

    What leads you to believe ANYTHING to do with Zeek Rewards is anything more than the normal fantasy associated with HYIP ponzi games ???

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  13. Zeek is a ponzi. However, they have been paying and have been extremely consistent on the issue of payments, the percentages, and other aspects of the payment structure. These two points are not mutually exclusive and I did not endorse Zeek.

    What I am saying is that those who nitpitck at some issues around payment are calling out the wrong indicators of collapse. While the indicators of pending doom for most ponzis start with anomalies in payments begin to surface, Zeek’s answers related to payments have been forthright even if they are being slippery about everything else. For example, when they ran out of checks and the printers had messed up the order, they were telling the truth. When daily profit share runs were days behind due to database and server issues, they were telling the truth – they have crappy software and weren’t stonewalling or slowpaying.

    Think of it like the mafia. Their underyling enterprise is illegal and doom for failure from the beginning, but the one currency the mafia has is reliability of payment/honoring deals agreed. Similarly, I think the issues you see about accounts disappearing and losing a sponsored member is not an indicator of a corrupt payment system, but an unintended amateur screw up.

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  14. How do you know they are even remotely telling the truth about any of it unless you are the actual source?

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  15. Let’s just say that Jimmy was, and still is a ZR member. :) His words, not mine.

    I’ve previously identified three characteristics of a Ponzi scheme (a subject our admin is intimately aware of): secrecy, fakery, and consistent returns. Zeek is scoring 2.5 and heading toward 2.75 really fast.

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  16. Jimmy: What I am saying is that those who nitpitck at some issues around payment are calling out the wrong indicators of collapse.

    There are not necessarily “indicators of collapse”

    Smart operators snatch the rent and run BEFORE there are any signs, obvious or otherwise, of collapse.

    It’s HYIP ponzi mythology that there are always “indicators”

    It’s the same sort of mythology used by players who try and convince newbies there’s some sort of magical “system” for playing HYIP ponzis with any certainty.

    By the time anyone notices any “signs” it’s already too late.
    The money’s gone, and all that’s left is the hope “this one” might be different than the squillion before it.

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  17. GlimDropper: Down side, the call is over an hour long but the upside is that the call moderator is our old friend Terralynn Hoy. I’d draw your attention to about five minutes into the call when Dawn recalls a conversation with Jerry Napier. Jerry was quoted as loving ZR and never wanting to have to build another organization with another program and mentioned a previous program and the litigation it was still facing and he mentioned “similarities” between ZR and that previous program. Jerry recommended that ZR hire Gerry Nehra and Dawn referred to this as having happened in the past tense (on a call recorded August 8th of 2011. But more interesting still was Dawn quoting “Dr.Keith Laggos actually proved that model not to be ponzi, can you hire him too.” Jerry was given heart felt thanks for that information. Can there be much reasonable doubt that the “previous program” Jerry was speaking of was anything other than Andy Bowdoin’s Ad Surf Daily?

    Hi Glim,

    Thanks for this post. It’s very enlightening.

    Patrick

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  18. LRM is correct, the SMART Ponzi operators grab and run what’s left in the bank at its maximum, instead of waiting for the inevitable slow-down of recruitment and the people leaving to deplete the funds. In the meanwhile they talk up their scheme as greatest thing since sliced bread and hope to continue to fill the coffers, esp. when it’s a multi-feed system where they can siphon off the pool from multiple pipes. Zeek is doing this as the execs are also affiliates (at least Dawn is, don’t know about Burks or DD) so they are raking it in as an affiliates (being first in line) while they promote the stuff as exec.

    Bernie Madoff knew he wouldn’t get far, so he ran it all the way to the end. And how his family is paying the price. One son already committed suicide, other relatives filed formal request to change names, and so on.

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  19. @GlimDropper — given that Nehra did such a poor job defending ASD (not that there’s not much about ASD that can be competently defended), that sounds like a reason for Zeek to be DOOMED rather than saved.

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  20. Oops, never mind. I’m duplicating your research. DELETE!

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  21. Does anyone else think that the collapse of both JSSTripler and Zeek could occur within the same 30 day time period?

    As I watch the machinations of each, and the “Textbook Ponzi Excuses” they seem to be on a very parallel time track.

    Thoughts?

    ARWR

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  22. ARWR: I think JBP/JSS-Tripler will last longer than ZR. ZR is on a downward spiral I don’t think it can recover from, and they will be lucky to make it through July the way things are going.

    Fred can do a restart, thus delaying the inevitable collapse for a little while longer. Besides, he has people joining in droves throwing money at him, so he is not going to run just yet.

    My personal belief is that Fred won’t run, but wants the Feds to move against him. He wants to be the Martyr, not the culprit. Part of his sovereign mentality. It was the “evil goverment’s” fault JBP ended, not him running a Ponzi. Just more of the “evil government” wanting to keep the little guy down, and not becoming wealthy mantra of the sovereigns.

    But the next few months are going to be interesting to watch and see what happens. No doubt about it.

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  23. ARWR: Does anyone else think that the collapse of both JSSTripler and Zeek could occur within the same 30 day time period?

    I don’t know, ARWR. But the Zeek affiliate at ZeekBids.net seems to have ruled out any imminent JSS/JBP collapse owing to the “Revolutionary Breakthrough” that overcomes the “common design flaw” — i.e., “a mechanism that effectively ‘converts JSS-Tripler’s liabilities into assets.'”

    OneX, which the Feds already have called a “fraudulent scheme” and “pyramid,” is among the other “programs” pushed on the ZeekBids.net site.

    Patrick

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  24. Lynn wrote: “My personal belief is that Fred won’t run, but wants the Feds to move against him. He wants to be the Martyr, not the culprit. Part of his sovereign mentality. It was the “evil goverment’s” fault JBP ended, not him running a Ponzi. Just more of the “evil government” wanting to keep the little guy down, and not becoming wealthy mantra of the sovereigns.”

    I replied:

    In my view, there are significant U.S. national-security issues in play here. There can be no doubt that money from various fraud schemes is making its way to JSS/JBP.

    That’s one of the reasons I find Zeek’s incongruities — including the flag-waving — so disturbing.

    It is simply beyond that pale that Zeek is auctioning sums of U.S cash and advertising that successful bidders can receive their winnings through offshore processors — especially given that JSS/JBP is using the same processors.

    Patrick

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  25. I personally think it’s the nature of the Zeek that attracts those characters, not those characters make up Zeek.

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  26. Another piece of the puzzle?

    Ted Nuyten of Businessforhome.org estimated Zeek’s revenue in 2011 to be 50 million (his review said 15, he said he was mistaken), but that doesn’t explain why the 2011 income disclosure says Zeek paid out 65 million as profit shares.

    http://www.businessforhome.org/2012/03/zeekrewards-review-2012/

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  27. Oops, typo… Zeek paid out 58.5 million, not 65 million, in 2011 to “active US affiliates”. Though if you count international it should be close to 65 million.

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  28. K. Chang: In Ponzi land you can pay out as much as you want to claim you paid out. They don’t expect people to actually run the numbers as to money in versus money out. It is the “story” that counts. Of course the members are told what an “honest” person the owner/admin is of the program, and for some they toss in for good measure a Christian, and viola no-one bothers to see if the paid claims are true or not. They only want to believe the rah-rah, in essence drink the kool-aid.

    But when it is pointed out, you are the “negative person, don’t understand how the program works, a troll, a naysayer, afraid to take risks, only want a ‘job,’ have a secret agenda,” etc, etc. mantra from the members.

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  29. Oh, that’s standard reaction to “intervention” when friend/family is smitten with “woo”.

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