NEW NARC THAT CAR SHOCKER: License-Plate Numbers Recorded On UNLV Campus; In ‘Training’ Video, Promoter Tells YouTube Audience That ‘Libraries’ And ‘Schools’ Good Places To Capture Data
You Tube video shows the street address of the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, as the site from which a license-plate number was recorded and entered into the Narc That Car database.
EDITOR’S NOTE: The PP Blog contacted the office of Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nevada, late tonight for a comment on the practices of NarcThatCar promoters. Reid’s office did not respond immediately.
UPDATED 2:34 P.M. ET (March 5, U.S.A.) A YouTube video promotion for Narc That Car gives a tour of the promoter’s secure back office, displays the names of downline members and advises viewers that the parking lots of libraries, schools and universities provide a steady stream of license-plate numbers to be harvested and entered into a database.
“So, carry a pen and paper with you,” the narrator instructs. “You can go to parking lots. You can go to libraries. You can go to schools. My wife goes to the university, and just goes through the parking lot and collects license-plate numbers.”
An address in the video suggests plate data was recorded in or around the University of Nevada, Las Vegas. The address is the same street address as the UNLV campus. Among the facilities that share the address are sports complexes such as the Thomas & Mack Center and Cox Pavilion, which have large parking lots and a combined seating capacity of at least 21,248, and the Harry Reid Center for Environmental Studies.
Harry Reid, a U.S. Senator, is the Senate Majority Leader. His office did not respond immediately late Saturday night to a request for comment. (Reid’s voicemail box was full, so the PP Blog contacted Reid’s office via email.)
The video, which has a headline of “NarcThatCar Training Video” on the YouTube site, provides no instruction on the propriety, safety or legality of entering either public or private property for the purpose of recording plate numbers of students, faculty, employees or visitors.
No mention is made in the video about whether Narc That Car prospects or members were required to obtain permission from library, school and university administrators, students, employees, campus police or other security forces before recording license-plate data from cars parked at such facilities.
Narc That Car does not screen promoters. U.S. residents who pay a $100 fee to the company
Screen shot: A Narc That Car promoter provided prospects a YouTube video tour of his secure back office. Frames in the video showed the names of his downline members. (The PP Blog added the red lines to the screen shot to block the identities of the downline members, which are publicly available on YouTube.)
become “independent consultants” and are encouraged to begin to record license-plate numbers. For an additional fee of $24.95 a month, members can enter the information directly into a Narc That Car database through a website the firm provides.
The YouTube video is 8:48 in length. The Narc That Car back-office tour begins at the 2:42 mark; the promoter’s comments on schools, universities and libraries begin at the 3:49 mark. UNLV’s address appears at the 4:21 mark, and the names of the promoters’ downline members appear at the 5:12 mark.
NarcThatCar is a Dallas-based firm that says it is building a database for financial companies and firms in the business of repossessing automobiles. The company is the subject of inquiries by the BBB and the district attorney of Henderson County, Texas.
In the video, the narrator said he hoped to ascend to the rank of Narc That Car “director.”
There are several tabs in the back office, including a tab labeled “Clients.” The narrator did not press the “Clients” tab.
“Don’t worry about that right now,” he said. He did not explain why members should not concern themselves about the tab.
The video suggests that the Narc That Car system checks to see if plate numbers entered by members are valid. A member must enter the address at which the plate was spotted. It appears, however, that any address can be entered, and that Narc That Car cannot tell if the car was observed at the reported address or not.
In a separate YouTube video, a Narc That Car promoter said he recorded 100 license-plate numbers in a Walmart parking lot, noting that he had enough plate numbers to give some away to incoming members, thus qualifying the members for compensation without leaving their homes.
NarcThatCar pays members $55 after reporting their first 10 plate numbers. If the Walmart promoter recorded 100, he could give away 90 to induce new recruits to join the program and receive $55 each. If the promoter lived in say, Florida — and if he recruited a member from Alaska — the Alaska member would appear to have the capacity to fabricate an address at which the car was spotted.
The Walmart promoter, however, appears to have soured on Narc That Car, and now has joined a similar company — Data Network Affiliates. (See reference in earlier story.) A DNA email to members suggested that Jeff Long, who published the Narc That Car Walmart video on YouTube, is now the top recruiter for DNA, which uses a domain registration in the Cayman Islands.
Long reportedly has recruited 628 DNA members.
“GO JEFF GO – JEFF WILL BE THE 1st PERSON IN THE WORLD TO EVER SPONSOR 1000 OR MORE ON HIS 1st LEVEL IN ANY MLM OR V.A.M. KIND OF COMPANY,” the DNA email said, according to a DNA member.
In yet another Narc That Car video on YouTube, a camera operated by a promoter in an automobile pans cars in the parking lot of a mall or shopping center.
Narc That Car promoters cruising a mall or shopping-center parking lot looking to record license-plate numbers say they did not want to appear "suspicious" while making their YouTube video.
At roughly the 0:38 mark in the video, a message pops on the screen that the promoters did not want to look “suspicious” while recording the video. At roughly the 1:10 mark, a reddish Chevrolet Camaro comes into view. At roughly 1:18 mark, the couple recording the video pulls in behind the Camaro. In the following frames, the car’s plate number is recorded in a notebook.
“And when you get your 10, what they do is send you back 50 bucks immediately,†the narrator says. “And all you gotta do to get your other $75 is just find three people that’s willing to go in and do the same thing you’re doing.â€
The narrator concludes the video by saying it’s “the New Age parking-lot†business.
See the video dubbed “training” that includes the address of UNLV, and tells prospects that libraries, schools and universities are fine places to write down the plate numbers of automobiles.
Quick note:
craigslist ad for Narc That Car screams, “Help Amber Alert!”
http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/com/1583813291.html
Patrick
Quick note:
“Job” ad for Narc That Car mentions AMBER Alert. Also says, “FBI “most wanted” need to be located and arrested.”
Also:
“Narc Technologies is looking to aggressively expand its data base in the Georgia and North Fl. by building an infrastructure of data gathering consultants & managers.
“Collect license plate numbers and enter into a data base using your home computer or laptop.
“25 cents up to $2.36 are paid out for each license plate submitted + Cash rewards when past due loan holders, vehicles and/or wanted people are located.”
“http://careerarcher.com/job/11261/easy-home-business-collecting-license-plate-numbers-for-bank-repo-at/
Patrick
http://www.bbb.org/dallas/business-reviews/multi-level-selling-companies/narc-technologies-in-dallas-tx-90236435
On January 18, 2010, the BBB contacted Narc Technologies to request that it substantiate some claims made in its advertising. The BBB also requested that the company describe key aspects of its business model.
Specifically, the BBB requested that Narc Technologies substantiate the claim that the company is currently working with several major motor corporations, major banks, and major finance companies.
In response, the company explained that the advertising is inaccurate, and that the independent consultant making the claims is breaking company policies. Narc Technologies claims to be working to have the inaccurate claims discontinued.
Additionally, the BBB has asked the company to provide information regarding its compensation plan in order to determine that it’s not functioning as a pyramid promotional scheme.
Specifically, the BBB is trying to determine if the independent consultant’s primary source of compensation is through recruitment of additional program participants.
The BBB is currently awaiting further substantiation from the company.
The BBB warns consumers to be wary of participating in business opportunities that primarily derive compensation through the recruitment of other participants rather than through the sale of a product or service.
The matter is still pending.
It is an illegal pyramid scheme. There is no product the representatives can sell. All they can offer is to have someone signup under them. The company is the only entity that “supposedly” has a product to sell, and it is only available to their potential customr base, not the members. By this act alone, they are an illegal pyramid scheme no matter how they try to sugar coat it. They also claim they are not a MLM company. The owner only cares about the little guy (sound familiar?), and wants to see them succeed with his ‘innovative and visionary’ (where have we heard this before) program. I give the FTC about 2-4 more weeks before they shut them down. Not only for being a pyramid scheme, but also for false advertising. The company hasn’t even launched yet and they are making income claims that cannot be proven. In short they are in a world of hurt.
I got a call from an individual asking me about them, and he informed me that Donald Trump is involved. I asked him how did he know this, and he said the person who wanted to recruit him said so. He said the recruiter told him there were negative people trying to ruin this great company (where have we heard this before), and they didn’t know that Donald Trump was behind this. I asked him what he meant behind it, and he said he was told he has money invested in DNA. I had to stop myself from laughing in his ear. I told him hs ‘recruiter’ was the one who didn’t know what he was talking about, and besides was he aware the founder had been in legal trouble before? To which he was shocked to learn this piece of news. Still, I will bet you he will join this as he is desperate for extra income and needs to work from home. So sad even when you explain to them it is illegal, they won’t believe you, but will believe the lies of the ‘Hope’ DNA feeds them they will get rich doing very little. Now you know why these programs get so many enrolled.
Sorry, the above post was meant for DNA, not Narc That Car. Actually it makes no difference because Narc That Car is also illegal, but Narc That Car is claiming to be a MLM company. Guess that will teach me not to post on a couple of hours sleep.
Happy Valentines Day to all the ladies of the blog.
Has it occurred to narc reps that these companies allow it to happen UNTIL people/authorities start asking questions.? The false info has been out there for a while and no one did anything about it – Well except us.
And it is now Feb.14 and they have had 27 days to provide the info to the BBB. I would think any company would want to protect their reputation and provide the info ASAP if they had it and it were true.
Surely, this sounds reasonable.
Just when we thought we had seen a new ethical low in the promotion tactics of NTC (and DNA), they have surpassesd themselves with these promotional suggestions.
We not only see them using famous names and humanitarian organizations in their promotions, we now see them recommending that children and young people are educated in the pros of illegal mlm ponzi operations and “spying on your neighbour” to boot. Either they have no children themselves, or their kids got very unlucky with the values that their parents will doubtless pass down to them.
Quick note: 2:34 update today corrects county name in story above to Henderson.
LOL…I posted up in defense of the company nearly TWO WEEKS ago, but the owner of this site chose not to post it?!?!!
What kind of censorship is THAT my friends?!?!
Email me for the skinny,as this yahoo chooses not to accept the truth about the company, but rather elects to bad mouth.
Actually, Mark, you submitted a post March 11, six days ago. It was published at the URL below, and people responded to it.
https://patrickpretty.com/2010/02/08/now-a-narc-that-car-training-video-shot-by-promoter-in-parking-lot-of-giant-eagle-supermarket-chain-im-not-going-to-talk-to-anybody-narrator-says/comment-page-1/#comment-9828
What? Did you somehow not notice your post was both published and responded to by other posters?
Name-calling? (And name-calling AFTER making an untrue claim that this Blog didn’t publish a comment you submitted — a post that not only was published, but also was responded to by readers?)
Patrick
In case you missed it, it’s his blog. Second, the first amendment protects against government censorship, nothing else. Third, Patrick’s been very keen to have opposing views aired here BUT he draws the line at active promotion.
The criticism has always been that we’re an inbreed bunch who are looking for an echo chamber so it’s unlikely any of the naysayers will join this SCAM.
Quick note:
Since March 2, the PP Blog has received four purely spam posts from a Narc That Car affiliate. We did not publish them.
The first spam was received March 2 at 10:03 p.m. It was resubmitted by the same poster in a slightly altered form at 10:08 p.m. on the same date.
The next NTC affiliate spam was received March 10 at 11:39 p.m., and was resubmitted in slightly altered form on March 11 at 12 a.m.
It looks very much as though the NTC affiliate was probing the system to see how he could get a spam published. They were not spams in defense of the company, BTW. They were pure, unadulterated sales pitches — cut and paste jobs with slight alterations.
All four of the spams were NOT from Mark’s IP, URL or email address. The only things received from Mark were his published post of March 11 and his published post today.
In other words, this Blog has published everything that Mark submitted. There has not been a single instance in which something Mark submitted was not published.
Patrick
Oh, that one where you really didn’t say much of anything? lol
Please name the outside revenue source that would make this not a ponzi. Thanks.
Hello my name is sareena and i was doing some research on the narc that car, because i was looking for an lucretive home base business worth investing in that was’nt stressful and not difficult to do. When it was present to me it seemed to me that it would be a very helpful biz because of the things that are going on in this world for instance if a child was kidnapped or they were looking for someone with a certain license plate number that the police may be looking for that was involved in a crime. I needed to know have this company proven to be legit or is this company illegal.If so can you tell me of any companies that are legit and you can really make money doing the business. Trying to get out of debt!!!!
Sareena, nice to meet you. Glad you found this site to look into this company. there is enough Archives here to let you know that you should RUN!!! not walk away form this company. They is no real product, and no real customers. A real direct marketing company MLM company must have a real product and must have customers who are not reps in the company. but no matter what all legit home base business takes real work!!! so good luck to you. I am with a company now that over time and hard work will make it. But since I respect Patrick blog I will at this point not give you my contact info until I get permission from Patrick.
Hi just sick of it,
I appreciate your thoughtful remarks to Sareena, and your readership of the Blog.
I’m aware, of course, that Sareena asked for tips on “any companies that are legit and you can really make money doing the business.” Your post notes that you are with a company that perhaps is suited for Sareena.
Please don’t list the name of the company or your contact info — and please don’t take that as a slight. It’s not intended as such.
In the past, I believe I made a mistake in permitting a reader to recommend a company in the Comments area. Although I have no reason to believe the company was illegitimate, I should not have permitted its name to be listed because:
1.) It opened the door for other readers to make other recommendations.
2.) It potentially created a situation in which the Comments section could be used as the source of a reader-to-reader pitchfest.
3.) Set the stage for folks to say, “But you let Johnny do it or didn’t say anything when Janey did it.”
I’d rather keep that door closed.
Regards,
Patrick
cool Patrick, I think it’s a very good and fair policy, and that is why I asked first. have a great week end