Tag: Solid Trust Pay

  • STATS: High Interest Globally In Criminal Probe Involving Payza And Obopay

    On Oct. 19, the PP Blog received traffic from 76 countries. This graphic reflects the Top 10 on that date and suggests high global interest in a criminal probe involving Payza and Obopay.
    On Oct. 19, the PP Blog received traffic from 76 countries. This graphic reflects the Top 10 on that date and suggests high global interest in a criminal probe involving Payza and Obopay.

    On the past four Mondays — Oct. 26, Nov. 2, Nov. 9 and Nov. 16 — the PP Blog averaged viewership from 32 countries, according to a compilation of data from Jetpack summarized by the Blog. These numbers are typical. On any given day, viewers from between 25 and 40 countries arrive here.

    But on Oct. 19 — also a Monday and the day the Blog reported that a criminal investigation involving the Payza and Obopay payment processors was under way — the Blog’s viewership shot up to 76 countries. That’s nearly 40 percent of the nations in the world. Viewers from other countries followed Payza- and Obopay-related content in subsequent days, suggesting that people in an even higher percentage of the world’s nations are concerned about the probe.

    As the Blog reported on Oct. 21, the targets of the investigation are unclear and much info has been redacted from public filings.

    The Blog is reporting today that Payza’s name again has appeared in a filing by the court-appointed receiver in the 2012 Zeek Rewards’ Ponzi- and pyramid scheme case. The filing was dated yesterday and includes these lines (italics added):

    The Receiver Team continues to investigate and pursue outstanding funds from Payza, Payment World, Solid Trust Pay, and Cyberprofit and is working with various government agencies and McGuireWoods Consulting in pursuit of these assets.

    Millions of dollars tied to U.S.-based Zeek may be in Moldova, according to receiver Kenneth D. Bell. Moldova is a neighbor to Ukraine, a world hot spot described by the Financial Times as “war torn.”

    Payza, its predecessor AlertPay and SolidTrustPay are Ponzi-forum darlings operating in an era of almost unimaginable cross-border fraud that frequently has an MLM or direct-sales component. The numbers are truly staggering — so high that agencies such as the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and the FBI have become involved in investigations.

    Money moves across borders in a flash these days, including the borders of nations under terrorist threat. Perhaps especially in the HYIP sphere, the aims of the “program” operators and the identities of the recipients of the cash may be particularly murky.

    Information filed by the U.S. Postal Inspection Service in the 2010 “Pathway To Prosperity” case alleges the P2P scheme spread to at least 120 countries, “all of the permanently inhabited continents of the world” and cost investors losses in 48 of the 50 U.S. states.

    Though uncharged, AlertPay and SolidTrustPay both are referenced in the P2P case, as well as the AdSurfDaily case from 2008. Ponzi forums such as TalkGold and MoneyMakerGroup also are referenced in U.S. filings.

    The office of U.S. Attorney Channing D. Phillips of the District of Columbia says it expects to release more information on the Obopay/Payza matter “shortly after” Jan. 22, 2016.

    NOTE: Our thanks to the ASD Updates Blog.

     

     

     

  • Spammers Push Bitcoin-Themed Reload Scams

    cautionflagYou’ve probably heard about the debacle at Mt. Gox, a Bitcoin exchange. Reuters, meanwhile, is reporting that a Bitcoin bank known as Flexcoin is shutting down after it lost $600,000 to a hacker attack.

    Elsewhere there are stories about the tragic death of 28-year-old Autumn Radtke, CEO of First Meta Pte Ltd, a Bitcoin exchange.

    Uncertainly about the future of Bitcoin and exchangers appears to be driving reload scams. These may be positioned as ways to recover Bitcoin losses incurred through Mt. Gox.

    Something styled “BitcoinInvestmentFund” at a .net has appeared online. One of the links on the site, which appears have been registered in January 2014, leads to a forum in which this claim is made (italics added/verbatim):

    Make millions EgoPay PerfectMoney Bitcoin SolidTrustPay in paying hyips fastest Real Investment

    The PP Blog reported yesterday about a scam known as “Mutual Wealth” that allegedly was gathering cash though EgoPay, PerfectMoney and SolidTrustPay, which often are facilitators for fraud schemes.

    Nothing is sacred in HYIP Ponzi Land. In a disturbing tale of disconnect, some promoters of TelexFree, an MLM “program” under investigation in North America, South America, Africa and the subject of warnings in Europe, more or less tried to cherry-pick recruits by posting in media accounts in Brazil about the suicide deaths of two TelexFree promoters.

    Tacky doesn’t begin to describe it.

    At 12:10 a.m. today, the PP Blog received a spam from someone (or something) tying to post in the Comments thread below this story about thousands of people being sued as a result of the Zeek Rewards scam. The would-be poster used the would-be user ID of “Hyip Egopay” and sought to plant a link to the purported Bitcoin recovery venture at the .net.

    Within the would-be post was an assertion about “Investment Insurance.” It also issued this appeal: “Cover Your Lost [sic] on MTGOX.”

    The would-be post appeared to solicit sums of between $300 and $250,000 — and the purported payouts were in the thousands of percent per hour.

    Among the claims on the actual .net site is this: “Bitcoin Investment Fund is short term, high yield private loan program, backed up Our Newest system of Forex trading.”

    Words fail me . . .

  • UPDATE: ‘OneX’ Site Pushed By AdSurfDaily President Andy Bowdoin Will Not Resolve To Server; Conference-Call Talker Identified As ‘J.C.’ Assures Listeners That God Is On Board The OneX Train And That A ‘Paved Road’ Is In Firm’s Future

    Andy Bowdoin

    UPDATED 6:59 A.M. ET (DEC.29, U.S.A.): The OneX site now is resolving to a server, although the site still appears to be down. (UPDATE 6:25 P.M. ET DEC. 29: The OneX site now appears to be back online after an absence of days. Whether is is fully functional is unclear.) Web data now suggest OneX is using a server in the United States. It previously used a server in Europe. Here, below, our post that reflected earlier events . . .

    At the time of this post, the website for “OneX” — a “program” pushed by AdSurfDaily President Andy Bowdoin — will not resolve to a server.

    Nor will the site return a ping. The ping returns “Timed out” error messages. Because the site will not resolve to a server, a message that the site “will be available in the next 24 hours” no longer appears at the URL for OneX.

    The development means that some or all OneX members and prospects are in an even greater information vacuum. The site has been inaccessible for days, although the PP Blog has learned OneX conducted a conference call yesterday and assured listeners the site would return after server problems caused by “inexperience” were solved.

    The call featured various cheerleaders, including a man identified as “J.C.,” apparently a company official.

    “J.C.,” explaining that he did not enjoy hype, assured listeners that “God” was on the side of OneX and that he anticipated 2.5 million riders on the OneX train by March.

    It was revealed during the call the OneX is using Canada-based Solid Trust Pay (STP).

    STP was one of the payment processors used by ASD and has a reputation for fueling Ponzi and fraud schemes. STP was among the processors used by alleged international swindler Nicholas Smirnow of Pathway To Prosperity, which the U.S. Postal Inspection Service said last year had defrauded tens of thousands of people from 120 countries.

    During the OneX conference call, J.C. explained that many members were showing “unbelievable tolerance” for the website problems.

    “Those who are not being patient do not understand what’s there,” J.C. asserted.

    Among other things, J.C. appealed to callers not to send in support tickets.

    “We’re having some — it’s load problems,” J.C. asserted, calling the development “teething problems.”

    J.C. also assured listeners that the company was “a thousand times” more frustrated than OneX members who cannot access the site.

    The OneX IT team was inexperienced in the area of “load testing” and wished to apologize for its lack of experience, J.C. said.

    “. . . We don’t know how to do heavy load-testing,” J.C. asserted.

    That the OneX website was being “slammed” by traffic was a “good thing,” J.C. asserted.

    “Hey,” he insisted, “these are pioneering days.”

    “We’re on a mission from God,” J.C. asserted.

    Bowdoin, who is facing trial on criminal charges of operating a Ponzi scheme through ASD that gathered at least $110 million, told conference-call listeners in October that God created OneX to help him win his criminal case.

    Although J.C. apparently agrees with Bowdoin that God is steering the OneX ship, J.C. told listeners that they should expect no support from their sponsors.

    Bowdoin has claimed that he is providing “leads” to his OneX recruits and that enrollees could make nearly $100,000 by paying $5.

    A woman on yesterday’s OneX call, which apparently was organized by a downline group with access to OneX management, claimed there were plenty of reasons to be excited about OneX.

    “In three months, we can look back . . . and laugh,” the woman claimed, later asserting the company started out “on horseback.”

    “You’re pioneers,” J.C. asserted. “This is huge.”

    OneX “leadership” will “roll up their sleeves” to solve problems, another woman asserted.

    J.C. said the firm would provide a “paved road” for members one day.

  • KABOOM! Affidavit In Pathway To Prosperity Case Paints Picture Of Wanton Criminality; Complaint References TalkGold, ASAMonitor, MoneyMakerGroup Posts; United States Throws Down Gauntlet

    Federal prosecutors serving under U.S. Attorney A. Courtney Cox of the Southern District of Illinois have thrown down the gauntlet, declaring that “[a] large percentage, if not all, HYIPs, are Ponzi schemes.”

    In a criminal complaint and accompanying affidavit that only can be described as remarkable, prosecutors and the U.S. Postal Inspection Service said the Pathway To Prosperity (PTP) HYIP was operated by a man with convictions for selling and cultivating drugs and driving the getaway car in a robbery.

    Part of the strategy of the HYIP scheme was to tell investors it was not an HYIP scheme and to trade on the purported moral fiber of operator Nicholas A. Smirnow, investigators said.

    Smirnow, 53, has a criminal past dating back to at least 1979, including convictions for breaking and entering and possession of stolen property, authorities said. Smirnow, who was charged Friday with operating an international Ponzi scheme from Canada and the Turks and Caicos Islands that gathered more than $70 million and fleeced more than 40,000 people, also told a colleague he was involved in a double homicide in Canada and claimed to have ties to organized crime in Ontario.

    U.S. and Canadian authorities are working under a Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty (MLAT) between the countries “in which both parties agreed to provide evidence to the other in criminal investigations,” prosecutors said.  “An ‘MLAT’ request was submitted by the Office of International Affairs of the U.S. Department of Justice to the International Assistance Group of the Department of Justice Canada on January 13, 2010.

    “While the Ontario Provincial Police has provided some materials to the United States Postal Inspection Service informally, as it is permitted to do under Section 3(2) of the Canadian Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters Act, the government is awaiting the production of the balance of the investigation materials by Canada,” U.S. authorities said.

    Certain records of  the Canadian payment processors AlertPay and Solid Trust Pay (STP) have been obtained by the United States, U.S. officials said.

    “STP was interviewed by the Anti Rackets Section of the Ontario Provincial Police (“OPP”),” the U.S. affidavit says. “The OPP advised [the investigating U.S. postal inspector] that STP also identified [Smirnow] as P-2-P’s principal, based upon identification documents submitted by Smirnow and communications between the two.”

    Investigators also have acquired records from International Payout Solutions (IPS), a payment processor based in Florida, authorities said.

    About 75 percent of payments made in the scheme flowed through STP, U.S. authorities said. The postal inspector said he had determined the identities of 11 people or entities that had received the most money from the scheme.

    “The largest payee of the top eleven was Tru-Mar Holdings which received $2,117,752.50,” the complaint said. “Tru-Mar Invest and Tru-Mar Holdings were names under which TMI Group, SA (“Tru-Mar”) operated. According to documents submitted by Tru-Mar to IPS, the principal of TMI Group, SA was E.M.”

    A second big winner was a company in Sweden referred to as “SV Holdings” and operated by “SV.”

    “The third largest payee is a company owned by someone I will refer to as ‘K.B.,” the postal inspector said in the affidavit. “K.B. received over $500,000 from P-2-P. K.B. was the owner of a web site that touts high yield investment programs. From the nature of K.B.’s business, it does not appear likely that P-2-P funneled $500,000 to K.B. to make legitimate investments on P-2-P’s behalf.”

    Other payees in the top 11 included “CWM from Oregon, JP from Florida, and CM of Washington State,” according to the complaint. Because the investigator could not contact some of the winners, they were not referred to either by names or initials in the complaint.

    Although Smirnow claimed not to be operating an HYIP scheme, the claim was a lie. Posts on forums such as ASA Monitor, TalkGold and MoneyMakerGroup sought to sanitize the scheme, authorities said.

    Not only was P2P an HYIP Ponzi scheme, it was operating in virtually every corner of earth, authorities said.

    “[Smirnow,] a Canadian citizen, was a resident of the Greater Toronto Area in the Province of Ontario, Canada,” prosecutors said. “When his scheme was first hatched, it was operated out of a rented house in Baysville, Ontario, which served as both his office and personal residence. Sometime around September 2007 [Smirnow] diverted approximately $315,000 Canadian in investor funds to purchase a substantial personal residence. He later fled Canada for the Philippines when his scheme began to unravel and also transferred some of P-2-P’s money to the Philippines as well.”

    The scheme was almost unimaginably widespread, the U.S. Postal Inspection Service said in an affidavit.

    “Financial records of payment processors utilized by P-2-P to collect investment funds from investors show that approximately 40,000 investors in 120 countries established accounts with P-2-P,” a postal inspector said. “Despite the fact that the investment was supposedly ‘guaranteed, investors lost approximately $70 million as a result of [Smirnow’s] actions.”

    The probe began when the U.S. government received a referral from the Illinois Securities Department “concerning an elderly Southern District of Illinois resident who had made a substantial investment in P-2-P,” the postal inspector said in the affidavit.

    “In addition to P-2-P’s own website, I discovered that P-2-P’s investment scheme was marketed on other websites, including High Yield Investment Program forums, which I was able to access directly through the internet,” the inspector said.

    Before long, the inspector determined that the scheme cost investors losses in 48 of the 50 U.S. states, and 18 of the 38 counties that comprise the Southern District of Illinois, prosecutors said.

    Such penetration in Illinois may suggest Smirnow had a promotional arm in the state. The complaint spells out a case against conspirators “known and unknown,” and the complaint notes that family members told other family members about the scheme.

    “When P-2-P’s funds were depleted and when investors did not receive a return of their funds as they had been promised, [Smirnow] caused a posting on P-2-P’s private forum warning investors not to complain to payment processors about P-2-P’s failure to return their money or they would find themselves ‘on the outside looking in,’” prosecutors charged.

    The postal inspector has spoken to “hundreds of P-2-P investors” during the course of the investigation, according to court filings.

    “Hundreds [of people] sent me copies of printouts they had made of P-2-P’s website, postings that had been made on the P-2-P’s members forum, and internet sites touting high yield investment programs which contained postings related to P-2-P,” the postal inspector said.

    International Financial Experts Weigh In On Alleged Fraud

    Prior to bringing the P2P case, prosecutors consulted with Professor James E. Byrne, an associate professor of law at George Mason University. Byrne has been an expert witness for both the Federal Reserve and the SEC in the area of High Yield Investment Programs, according to court filings. He also is an expert in international banking and served as chair of the Group of Experts on Commercial Fraud of the Secretariat of the United Nations Commission on International Trade Law (UNCITRAL), co-chair of the UNCITRAL Symposium on International Commercial Fraud, and co-chair of the North American and European Standing Committees on Combating Commercial Fraud.

    “In my considered professional opinion, the investment scheme described in the materials that I have reviewed are not legitimate but resemble and are classic instances of so-called high yield frauds and fraudulent pyramid schemes,” Byrne said in an affidavit. “The proposed returns are excessive for even the most risky legitimate investments and are simply preposterous for investments whose principal is supposedly guaranteed.”

    “It is apparent to me that the materials and the scheme which they describe were deliberately and artfully constructed, drawing on similar scams to deceive, confuse, entice and trap would-be investors,” Byrne said.

    Another professor and financial expert, Todd T. Milbourne of the Olin Business School at Washington University in St. Louis, also consulted with the government in the case. Prior to joining Washington University, Professor Milbourne was on the full-time faculty at the London Business School from 1996 to 1999. In 1999-2000, he was a Visiting Assistant Professor of Finance at the University of Chicago.

    Milbourne also described the alleged scheme as preposterous.

    “According to Professor Milbourne, Warren Buffett, Chairman arid CEO of Berkshire Hathaway, is considered one of the best investment managers there is,” prosecutors said, referring to their consultation with Milbourne. “[Buffet’s] nickname is the ‘Oracle of Omaha.’ Between 1977 and 2009, the average return to stockholders of Berkshire Hathaway was 27.3%, more than double the average return of the S&P 500,” prosecutors said.

    “However, Warren Buffet’s performance pales in comparison with the supposed financial acumen of [Smirnow], who claimed to be capable of achieving annual returns exceeding 500% in all four of his plans, more than twenty times better than the performance of one of the best performing money managers in the world,” prosecutors said.

    Countries Affected

    The scope of the alleged scheme was described as mind-boggling.

    “In reviewing records submitted by P-2-P to payment processors, I have found accounts set up by P-2-P investors from all of the permanently inhabited continents of the world,” the postal inspector said. “P-2-P account holders, when they registered for a P-2-P account, gave addresses in the following countries . . . :  the United States, Canada, and Mexico in North America; Costa Rica, EI Salvador, Honduras and Panama in Central America;

    “Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Columbia, Equador, Guyana, Peru, Uruguay and Venezuela in South America; The Bahamas, Barbados, Belize, Bermuda, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Grenada, Guadeloupe, Haiti, Jamaica, Martinique, Netherlands Antilles, Saint Kitts and Nevis, St. Lucia, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, and Trinidad and Tobago in the Caribbean;

    “Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Iceland, the Faroe Islands, United Kingdom,
    Ireland, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Monaco, Andorra, Portugal, Spain, Malta, Italy, Austria, Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia,
    “Slovenia, Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Russian Federation, Belarus, Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Republic of Georgia, Greece, Macedonia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Yugoslavia in Europe;

    “Turkey, Cyprus, Armenia, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Republic of Maldives, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Cambodia, Thailand, Vietnam, Taiwan, South Korea, North Korea, Peoples Republic of China, Peoples Republic of China Hong Kong SAR, Singapore, Macau, Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, and Japan, in Asia.”

    See story from earlier today that references another alleged Ponzi scheme known as Legisi, which involved more than $70 million, affected at least 3,000 investors and also was pitched on ASA Monitor, Talk Gold and MoneyMakerGroup.

  • GUEST COLUMN: Payment Processors That Give Refunds Unilaterally Help Surf ‘Industry’ Live To See Another Day

    Editor’s Note: This is a guest column by Gregg Evans.

    Online Payment Processors, Enablers of Scams

    By Greggory B. Evans, PhD

    Recently it came to light that online payment processor Solid Trust Pay had decided unilaterally to refund some participants in the besieged autosurf ASD Cash Generator. In doing so, it appears STP may have violated Canadian abandoned accounts regulations, but even if by some quirk of lightly regulated Canadian processors, this policy is ripe for abuse and almost assuredly resulted in inequitable treatment.

    ASD accepted payments from any number of methods, including direct deposits into bank accounts, as well as other online payment processors. In giving refunds based solely upon their own records, STP has no way of knowing if they are refunding people who are in fact otherwise in profit and made withdrawals from other processors.

    If these funds had been in the United States, where ASD assets were seized last August, this money would have been pooled into a consolidated estate and, according to statements from the Justice Department, been available for refunds to losers in the scam, refunds based upon the complete records of ASD, from all sources.

    Another apparent problem with STP’s refund policy is it flies in the face of traditional practice, where merchants who have funds that belong to customers who have no activity have absolute rights to their property for periods that range from 7 years in most U.S. States, up to the Canadian Policy that abandoned accounts in excess of $1,000 of 10 years at the merchant, and an additional period of up to 90 years, or indefinitely.

    Accounts of more than $100 but less than $1000 are retained by merchants in Canada for 10 years, and then turned over to the Canadian Central Bank, where they are held for 30 more years.

    The stated policy of Solid Trust Pay is to consider accounts “inactive” after 180 days, at which point they have in at least this case refunded some, but apparently not all, of the remaining funds in an account to the accounts from which it arrived.  Their method of determining how much each participant receives is not known, and from personal knowledge of mine, some participants receive no refund at all.  The reasons for this, the formula for determining refunds, and any fees STP retains for their trouble is not clear.

    It’s also not exactly clear that Canada, or Ontario where STP is located, place any limit on the fees a payment processor can charge, and in fact it may be perfectly legal for them to keep the biggest share of the funds and claim it as fees. Well, except for the unclaimed funds laws, which apparently they were unaware of.

    A poster here who identified herself as a representative of STP claimed that their refund policy had the approval of their attorney. I find that hard to believe, it sounds more to me like they didn’t realize that all merchants have to comply with laws that most people not versed in business practices don’t even know exist.  It seems to me that a lot of what the processors do is much like the Ponzi schemes they support, made up as they go along. In the same post, the STP representative said that they try to screen their customers for legitimate businesses.  This is a claim I find laughable at best.

    STP and other online payment processors exist in, support, and largely make possible the easy-money Ponzi scheme culture of HYIP and autosurf programs. Without them, the “industry” could not exist. Scammers, crooks and money-launderers need a transfer system that provides irreversible payments, and they also provide some measure of invisibility for the “Admins” of online money scams.

    Regulations in Canada have tightened up the invisible part, but these processors are still providing one-stop shopping for Ponzi schemes and autosurfs — and, to be sure, any number of criminals who at least have the sense to keep their activities a bit more low key.  But I digress.

    Let’s look at some of the customers STP has had in the past, these pillars of business who they were very careful to check and make sure they were legitimate businesses.  Aside from ASD, some of their more notable clients are P2P, or Pathway to Prosperity, an Internet HYIP Ponzi whose leader is currently wanted in Canada and is a fugitive from Justice.  Megalido was also an STP customer, this program popped up right around the time ASD was raided, and played to the ASD crowd as a way to recoup their losses.

    Mrs. VIP/Global Marketing Solutions was another STP-supported program; they suspended payments when they said they got new owners in December, the payments were supposed to begin again in 6-8 weeks, it’s been 7 months and no sign yet of them resuming payments.

    Another one I’m researching is DR Fund, a program heavily promoted by Jake Amedee and friends over at ASA Monitor, which is itself a clearing house for fraud and Ponzi schemes. I could name dozens more of these “legitimate” businesses, which I’m sure STP knows have stolen tens of millions of dollars from the public, much of it money from people who were told they were investing in real businesses, and of course, with their assurance that they screen their customers, STP is at least partly responsible for those losses.  At least more so than Bank of America, named in a lawsuit lawsuit brought by some ASD victims.

    Meanwhile, in a reply to a post I made asking questions about their business practices, the STP spokesperson whined about customers complaining about their policies on refunds. A quick look in the forums where Ponzi scams are promoted will reveal that when a program suspends payments for a short period of time, people begin discussing where and how they can get the payment processors to consider refunds.

    Unilateral Refunds Institutionalize The Abuse

    Payment processors should never give refunds directly to the people who play these scams. Legally, until a court of competent jurisdiction says otherwise, the money still belongs to the person who owns the account. Any unilateral action by the processors short-circuits the legal rights of whomever the money rightfully belongs to, whether that is the scammer, or if the authorities so determine, the victims of the scam.

    Regardless, that’s not a decision the money-handlers should or even could make with any fairness. A few situations like that and it’s likely the participants will begin as a practice of making all deposits with the processor most liberal in refund history, and all withdrawals from another account. So what.  Tell your customers you cannot refund their payments, the whole point of your business is irreversible payments.

    Granted, your customers are for the most part people who play scams for whatever reasons, most of them have no regard for the people who lose in order for them to make profits. They engage in illegal money frauds, and now they want the protection that “real” businesses afford them.  Too bad.  They’re in a lousy industry for fairness or ethical business practices. The same goes for STP and the other payment processors who cater to HYIPs, autosurfs and unregistered online investing.  You built your business on being the pseudo legal link in criminal enterprises.

    You might, and I stress the word “might,” be following the letter of the law. Or you may be trying to stay on the legal side of the law and due to your own ignorance be falling a little short, as I suspect your refund policy does.  But let me ask, if your grandmother asked about your business, and wanted the full unadulterated truth about the things you do, would you feel good telling her?

    Would you be proud explaining at the family reunion how you make your money? And not the best face you can put on it, you have to imagine telling granny about every single program you accommodated that turned out to be a cheap Ponzi scheme, how many millions of dollars were lost be people who risked more than they could afford to lose, how many marriages fell apart, homes were lost, children missed meals, and how you make it possible for this industry to thrive?  I suspect not.

    Further, if you really can with a straight face tell me you’re actually proud of the misery you help cause, I suspect you might be a sociopath, and you might have sold your granny out for a few fees.

    I’m calling you out, Solid Trust Pay.  I double dog dare you to tell the crooks who utilize your services to hit the road.  Hire a compliance auditor who knows how to do a little due diligence, and by that I don’t mean checking at ASA Monitor to see how many “I got paid” posts there are, but someone who knows enough about accounting, law, business and investing to look at what a company is doing and what it’s just claiming to do.  I ask, no, let me rephrase that, I DEMAND you make your refund policy transparent and I’ll be checking with the Office of the Public Guardian and Trustee to find out what the exact law is on your policy and asking them to give your practices a look as well.

    I also feel very strongly that you should disclose the fees you took on the refunds not only from ASD, but also MegaLido and any other funds you decided to return. Court records indicate that ASD moved several million dollars to you days before they were raided, but I see only a pittance in refunds. Granted, not every participant posts their refunds, but surely if you returned a few millions we’d see an aggregate of more than a few thousand dollars in discussions.

    You enable an entire industry of crime.  Eventually, the regulations will catch up to you.