ESSAY: Why Narc That Car Has A Duty To Reveal The Names Of Its Database Clients And Police Departments Whose Members May Be Narc Consultants

This promo by a Narc That Car member appeared on a .org website that used AMBER Alert's name in its URL. The U.S. Department of Justice, which administers the AMBER Alert program, denied in February that it had any affiliation with Narc. Days later, Narc removed a reference to AMBER Alert in its own video production to advertise the opportunity. The actions of both Narc and its promoters have led to questions about whether the company had come into possession of money based on misrepresentations that caused prospects to believe they were helping out worthwhile causes by joining Narc. The very first Narc promotions observed by the PP Blog were authored by members of AdSurfDaily and Golden Panda Ad Builder, companies implicated in a Ponzi scheme involving tens of millions of dollars.

EDITOR’S NOTE: Narc That Car says it is a private company and has no duty to reveal the names of its data clients. This essay challenges Narc’s arguments.

The public has a compelling interest not only in learning the identities of Narc That Car’s clients through appropriate channels, but also in learning the identities of the company’s data-gatherers who may hold jobs in the public sector and are supplementing their income by moonlighting for Narc as consultants.

Narc is a highly questionable business. Moonlighting by public employees in highly questionable ways is one of the elements in the Scott Rothstein Ponzi scheme in Florida. Rothstein is alleged to have employed off-duty members of law enforcement as bodyguards while he orchestrated a $1.2 billion fraud. Moonlighting also is an element in a recent case in which investigators in Georgia probed allegations of sexual assault against Pittsburgh Steelers’ quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, who employed off-duty police officers as bodyguards.

The assault allegedly took place in the women’s restroom of a nightclub. Roethlisberger was not charged in the case, but was suspended for six games by the NFL for conduct detrimental to society and the league. Two Pennsylvania police officers working for him potentially face disciplinary action for sullying the reputations of their departments and not extricating themselves from a situation in which a crime or crimes might have been committed in their presence.

Why Wouldn’t The BBB Have Questions

Today the PP Blog challenges its readers, including its critics, to read this essay, observe the sampling of graphics and answer a few simple questions: Why wouldn’t the Better Business Bureau, responsible businesspeople, journalists, law-enforcement agencies and taxpayers not have questions about Narc That Car? (Now suddenly known as Crowd Sourcing International after issuing checks to members under at least two different names earlier in the year.)

And why isn’t the company stepping forward with answers that enlighten, not deflect or hop-scotch, around key issues? The company should supply the information to the Better Business Bureau and any law-enforcement agency that asks for it.  Information Narc provides could be kept private while any investigation ensues and released by the government if it is determined that wrongdoing has occurred.

Narc says it is in the business of paying people to record the license-plate numbers of cars for entry in a database that will be used by “lien holders” and companies that repossess automobiles when owners default on loans.

Members of Narc say they record plate numbers randomly — in places such as parking lots — on the off-chance the vehicle is or later will become a target of the repo man. Narc’s data-gatherers are required to provide the address at which the plate number was viewed and recorded. Because the location data likely will be stale and the car likely will be moved before it becomes the subject of a repo bid, there are legitimate concerns about the actual usefulness of the data to lien-holders and concerns about whether Narc is just an excuse for a business, not an actual business capable of making profits from retail sales to database clients.

There also are significant concerns about privacy, and the propriety, safety and legality of the Narc program. Some Narc members have advertised that they collect “extra” plate numbers and use them as incentives for prospects to qualify for commissions without gathering data themselves, a practice that leads to troubling questions about whether Narc members have provided corrupt data to the company. An unknown number of plate numbers recorded in Narc’s database may be third-party sightings passed along to incoming members who entered bogus addresses at which plates purportedly were sighted — all to qualify for payments.

Equally troubling is that Narc, which has to know that some members are providing plate numbers for downline recruits, does not reveal the names of its database clients, saying the information is proprietary. There may be no way for existing Narc clients to know whether the data Narc reportedly is selling has been corrupted by the practices of members so eager to earn money that they’re giving away plate numbers and the recipients of the plate numbers are fabricating addresses at which the plates were spotted.

Corrupt data is worthless data.

There are reports that Narc can verify the validity of a plate number — but it is inconceivable that Narc has the means to verify that the plate actually was spotted at a specific address. Adding to the ripples of a potentially corrupt data stream is that some Narc members have instructed incoming members in purported “training” videos not to bother noting the address at the time the plate number was sighted. Rather, the prospects have been told to go home and look up the address on the Internet or refer to a store receipt if they happened to be shopping at, say, Walmart or Giant Eagle, when they were doing their side business for Narc.

Members appear to be able to enter any address they please, whether the car was spotted there or not. Meanwhile, some members have openly said they don’t like their neighbors knowing they’re recording plate numbers for a fee, so they record the numbers in the same fashion a character in a spy novel hides behind a newspaper or makes himself invisible in plain sight. The casualty is transparency at virtually all levels, meaning clients don’t know if they’re buying reliable data, members of the public don’t know their cars are being watched and if profiles are being created, and Narc members don’t know anything other than the information Narc chooses to share.

Public Esteem For Police At Stake Amid Confusing Claims

Narc members say police officers have joined the Narc program as data-gatherers and upline sponsors. If true (and the PP Blog believes that police officers are involved in Narc), it is incumbent upon Narc to publicly identify the police departments for which the officers work.

Because of claims made by Narc promoters, the public has the right to determine if officers who belong to Narc are collecting data while on “city time” or during their off-duty hours and assisting Narc in ways that nonpolice members of Narc cannot.

Why? Because Narc largely operates in the shadows. Moreover, some of the public claims of its promoters have been beyond reckless — and only Narc knows the truth about how it is paying members and using the data they collect. If Narc has police officers among its ranks amid these circumstances, it means the officers are promoting a business they may know very little about.

Police officers should not be promoting a business they know very little about, especially amid these circumstances. That Narc is paying members is not evidence that no wrongdoing is occurring. All successful pyramid and Ponzi schemes pay members. Moreover, the advertising claims of Narc promoters alone give officers all the information they need to pull out of Narc today and potentially spare themselves and their departments embarrassment later — just as Rothstein’s bodyguards and Roethelisberger’s bodyguards should have pulled out.

That the officers are repping for Narc and not providing security services is immaterial. Narc emits the same kind of stink. It stinks even if it’s legal.

Few people would begrudge a police officer from supplementing his or her income in legitimate fashion — but that is not the issue here. The issue is whether Narc and many of its data-gatherers are legitimate. The Better Business Bureau has expressed concerns that Narc might be a pyramid scheme. Whether Narc is a pyramid scheme is not the only issue, however. This essay points out some of the other issues.

Only Full Transparency Can Lead To A Clean Bill Of Health For Narc

Absent full transparency from Narc, no police officer or nonpolice officer gathering data, asking people to send money to Narc and building Narc downlines — can determine if they are promoting a scam.

Period.

There have been reports in recent days that Narc — through its own unfiltered channels — has claimed the reason it does not publish data clients’ names is because such clients got “incessant” calls when it did publish the names.

This claim strikes us as the precise kind of dreck that cannot pass the giggle test on Main Street but somehow passes the plausibility test in the most florid hallways of MLM, which much of America and the world already view as a cesspool. Not only is the claim absurd, it also is contrary to promoters’ claims that Narc was employing a revolutionary MLM concept by which members would build the database product first and Narc would sell it to retail customers later. This approach could be illegal if Narc does not have “true” customers (database clients) in  sufficient volume to destroy the pyramid concerns. Although some Narc promoters have claimed the company has “investors,” the claim itself only leads to more questions: Who put up the purported investment money if investors actually exist?

Narc promoter “Jah” (see below) has been telling prospects for months that Narc reps engage in “No Selling, Trying, Switching, or Using Anything” — in short, Narc’s data-gatherers do not buy the retail database product. Rather, they pay an up-front fee to earn the right to submit plate numbers, become Narc recruiters and have the prospect of earning more money by sponsoring more fee-paying members who pay for the right to submit plate numbers and become recruiters themselves, and Narc sells the database to another set of customers.

These claims and similar claims have led to concerns that Narc was operating a pyramid scheme. Such an approach also can be viewed as a Ponzi scheme. Absent continuous membership growth and real profits from sales to retail database customers to support the payments to Narc’s data-gatherers, the business could collapse.

A video promotion in February by another Narc member showed a tab labeled “Clients.” The video was recorded inside the member’s Narc back office and appeared on YouTube  — after Narc had been operating for months. “Don’t worry about that right now,” he said of the “Clients” tab. He did not explain why members should not concern themselves about the tab, which led to questions about whether Narc had data clients in sufficient volume to quash concerns that members were getting paid exclusively or almost exclusively with money from other members — not retail sales to database clients.

This Is ‘Training?’

The promo was described as a teaching tool in a YouTube headline titled, “NarcThatCar Training Video.” In the same video, viewers were told that the parking lots of libraries, schools and universities provided a steady stream of license-plate numbers to be harvested and entered into the Narc database.

“So, carry a pen and paper with you,” the narrator instructed. “You can go to parking lots. You can go to libraries. You can go to schools. My wife goes to the university, and just goes through the parking lot and collects license-plate numbers.”

An address in the video suggests plate data was recorded in or around the University of Nevada, Las Vegas. The address is the same street address as the UNLV campus. Indeed, one Narc promoter after another has pointed one prospect after another to sources of license-plate data, implying that cars parked on both public and private property were fair game for downline commissions.

Not even public schools, universities and libraries were off limits in Narc’s universe of members. Narc itself has said its database will be used to locate people, boats, cars and any item imaginable. Data is being mined on both private and public property, and Narc itself says the plate numbers are checked against “the DMV,”  commonly known in many U.S. states as the Department of Motor Vehicles.

If Narc’s data is checked against the DMV, then Narc’s business is the public’s business. The public has an interest in determining the identities of Narc’s data clients in no small measure because the data potentially could be used to monitor private citizens and people who hold sensitive jobs in government, science, research and the military.

Narc’s explanation that its clients’ names are proprietary is unacceptable. Its own members are claiming plate numbers are “public” information and “training” prospects to drive through “university” parking lots and the lots of retail stores and restaurants to get a supply of tags, which are checked against DMV records.

If you’re shopping at Walmart, for example, your plate number could be recorded and entered in Narc’s database by a Narc participant in search of MLM commissions and interested in recruiting prospects who could record your plate number elsewhere, leading to even bigger commissions and an even greater loss of your privacy. Incredibly, some Narc promoters have anticipated the public’s objection to such a pursuit, answering it with a chilling argument that people who’ve done nothing wrong have nothing to fear.

That is just downright creepy. Is it any of Narc’s business where you park your car because it wants to help the repo man repossess your neighbor’s car? And what if the repo man isn’t Narc’s only client?

What if a company poses as a repo company or a “lien holder” company and has an objective totally unrelated to the repossession of collateral? What if a suspicious husband with a violent streak, for example, wants to monitor sightings of his wife’s car? What if a private investigator wants to determine where you spend your time? What if the government wants to determine if you’re seeing a shrink? What if an unfriendly government wants to monitor the whereabouts of an important government official or scientist?

Narc’s purported assurance that members don’t record the plate numbers of government vehicles is hollow because government employees own private cars and do not always travel in government vehicles. The sensitivity of their jobs does not vanish if they are in their private cars whether on-duty or off, and the prospect that a data profile on the movement of these cars can be created and offered for sale is unacceptable.

It is unacceptable whether the target for monitoring is employed by the government or is just an ordinary citizen employed by any private company. Cars are inexorably linked to their owners. To track the car is to track the owner. Left unchecked, Narc could be used as a data source by private and public entities to monitor people. That is inconsistent with liberty and privacy. It is offensive by its very nature because it potentially puts people who don’t know they are being watched under a microscope, and it is offensive to any notion of propriety because it potentially puts private citizens in the business of spying on other private citizens to qualify for downline commissions. That Narc’s own members are cheerleading for the supposed the riches to be made by helping the repo man theoretically get the neighbor’s car causes one to wonder if America is taking leave or its senses and willing to package and sell anything.

What’s next? News releases from Narc that announce yet-another successful repo brought about by the company’s army of commission-based spies?

A World-Class Example Of MLM Excess

MLM has served up a doozy this time: Peel away the hype and Narc emerges as a private spy-agency-in-waiting. At last count, 52,000 people have expressed a willingness to help Narc build the database and share in the joy of knowing they’ve helped the repo man separate a struggling, single, stay-at-home Mom from the car she shares with her laid-off husband who lost his job when the economy went in the tank.

Lien-holders do have the right to seize their collateral if a car owner is in default. Lenders do have a corresponding duty to be responsible to investors and depositors to protect assets. But to create a cheerleading section for the repo man when unemployment is at 10 percent is something only the darkest minds in MLM could serve up. That people seem actually to be comforting themselves with the thought that they’ve performed some sort of civic duty by ratting out their neighbor to the repo man and somehow made America a better place is one of the surest signs yet that a big pocket of U.S. commerce has become morally bankrupt.

And that’s before the Narc privacy and security issues are examined in any detail.

Does anyone really want Narc to come into possession of data that could be used to create movement profiles on private citizens in any context — all under some implausible theory that the repo man needs extra help?

Sensitive research — including research paid for by the government — is performed by some universities. The data could be used to monitor people who hold sensitive jobs. This makes it the public’s business to determine precisely what Narc is doing and how and why it is doing it.

A ‘GOOGLE Opportunity Like Never Before’

Narc, according to an email members received, also is blaming the media for not understanding what it is doing. Its response to the bad press it has received recently was to tell members not to worry, that Narc remains a “GOOGLE Opportunity like Never before” — and then close the email with insipid, flowery motivational drivel, including this gem: “EVERYTHING is funny when you [sic] making MONEY!”

Even dispossessing your cash-strapped neighbor of his car, apparently, is funny as long as it pays a downline commission.

The email remided us of the now-defunct Surf’s Up forum, which promoted the now-defunct AdSurfDaily Ponzi scheme by instructing members that “there are no prizes for predicting rain, only for building arks.” Perhaps finding the fuel they needed in Surf’s Up’s trite prose, many members of ASD pressed forward, introducing prospects susceptible to the harmful power of trite prose to one Ponzi scheme after another.

As we proceed in this essay, we ask readers to note that check-waving videos and “earnings” reports produced by some members of MLM programs are not evidence of success or honesty. It often is the case in the MLM sphere that promoters who throw caution to the wind and pitch programs they know little or nothing about end up the biggest winners, with the vast majority of participants breaking even or losing both money and time that could be better spent trying to make ends meet by other means.

Moreover, it often is the case that willfull blindness and forced ignorance are the dominant traits displayed by promoters. Incongruously, a lack of knowledge about companies and products is what often drives MLM profits.

Practiced hucksters often prefer ignorance themselves, while also preferring prospects who will not ask hard questions and are willing to pass along hype and unchecked information as though they were the high gospel of truth.

BBB’s Concerns Grow

Although Narc That Car provided the identity of a single, purportedly “major” client to the Better Business Bureau April 27, the BBB now says “the client’s identity only raises more concerns” about the company.

The BBB did not disclose the name of the Narc client or reveal why its doubts were heightened after Narc provided the information. On its website, however, the organization said it is “communicating” its concerns about the client to Narc. The BBB also noted its inquiry into Narc advertising claims remains open. The advertising inquiry began Jan. 18. It has been unresolved for nearly four months.

On March 3, the BBB noted, the organization asked Narc to provide a “comprehensive” list of clients. Narc responded April 27 by providing the name of “one of its major clients,” a development that not only did not dampen the BBB’s concerns that Narc was using a pyramid business model and did not have a product with true value, but also ramped them up.

Narc That Car has identified Rene Couch as its vice president of marketing. He also has been listed by titles such as executive vice president and chief field advisor, leading to questions about whether Narc and its promoters were making things up as they went along.

Narc already has an “F” rating from the BBB, the lowest score on the organization’s 14-point scale. In the past two weeks, at least two television stations in major markets in the United States have aired reports about Narc, questioning Narc’s business practices, the level of knowledge Narc’s promoters have about the Dallas-based company and Narc’s willingness to address the questions in an atmosphere of transparency.

Meanwhile, some Narc promoters have been attacking the BBB and accusing the TV stations of biased reporting — instead of insisting that Narc get out in front of the stories and concerns and put the issues to rest.

BBB Under Attack

One of the promoters attacking the BBB is Ajamu M. “Jah” Kafele. Kafele once was accused in Ohio of practicing law without a license and ordered to pay a civil penalty of $1,000 by the Ohio Supreme Court after the bar proved its case against him.

Attorney or not, Kafele is no stranger to the courts. What follows in the passage below is an exchange between Kafele and the attorney for a law firm he had sued for attempting to collect a debt. The exchange started after the lawyer asked Kafele how old he was. In response, Kafele attempted to assert his 5th Amendment right not to answer the question — in a case in which he was the plaintiff, not the defendant, and a case in which a federal judge admonished him that his “invocation of the Fifth Amendment in response to that question was improper.”

A. [Kafele]. I don’t recall my age. Next question.
Q. [Defense counsel]. What was your date of birth?
A. I don’t recall my date of birth.
Q. Do you have a driver’s license on you?
A. No, I don’t.
Q. Do you have any form of identification on you?
A. No, I don’t.
Q. Where were you born?
A. I don’t recall.
Q. Do you have parents?
A. I don’t recall.
Q. Do your parents — are your parents living or deceased?
A. I don’t recall. Are you going to ask me some relevant questions to the defense and claims or are you going to find out about my livelihood for your personal gain?
Q. You’ve indicated you don’t recall whether –
A. That’s right.
Q. — or not you have parents. Do you have siblings?
A. I don’t know.
Q. Are you married?
A. I don’t recall.
Q. Where do you live?
A. I don’t recall.
Q. What’s your home address?
A. I don’t recall.
Q. How long have you lived there?
A. I don’t recall.
Q. What’s your current occupation?
A. Who said I had an occupation?
Q. Are you gainfully employed?
A. Who said I was employed?
Q. I’m asking you a question.
A. I’m asking you, who said I was employed?
Q. Are you employed?
A. I don’t recall being employed.

Three-figure, check-waving YouTube video by "Jah," who publicly announced his downline group was "not going to be out here flashing, you know, five-figure checks.” The video, which featured a claim that repping for Narc was like working for the "Census Bureau," later was removed from YouTube's public site. Why it was acceptable to publish a three figure-check but not a five-figure check was never explained.

Strikingly, Kafele, who once believed it was prudent to sue lawyers who were trying to collect on a debt, now has thrown in his lot with Narc That Car, which says it wants to help repossession companies collect their collateral when buyers default on loans. The case cited above did not have a happy ending for Kafele: A federal judge tossed the preposterous lawsuit he had brought, saying Kafele had engaged in “egregious” conduct.

“Plaintiff’s repeated and persistent refusal to participate in the discovery process has clearly been willful and done in defiance of the express and unambiguous orders of this Court,” U.S. District Judge John D. Holschuh said. “As a result, the defendants have been denied virtually all discovery in this case. Moreover, plaintiff has been warned — most recently in the April 4, 2005, Opinion and Order granting defendants’ motion to compel and awarding monetary sanctions against plaintiff, . . .  that his continued refusal to participate in the discovery process would result in the dismissal of the action. Nevertheless, plaintiff persists in attempting to transform the litigation process initiated by him into a game. Under these circumstances, no sanction other than dismissal of the action is appropriate.”

Kafele now is telling prospects he is an authority on Narc That Car. He said he has hundreds of members in his downline. He has been conducting meetings in Ohio to recruit even more prospects, according to his website.

Fox TV Reports Exposed Promoters’ Willful Blindness

Not a single Narc promoter approached by Fox 5 in Atlanta in a package aired recently could identify a single Narc data client — and yet the promoters were out in force recruiting people for the firm. Meanwhile, Fox 11 in Los Angeles recently visited YouTube and reported on unsubstantiated claims passed long by Narc promoters to a worldwide audience, noting that California Attorney General Jerry Brown was seeking information on the firm.

It is known that attorneys general from at least three states — Georgia, California and Texas — are aware of growing doubts about Narc’s business practices.

Narc’s approach — and the approaches of its promoters — have caused even longtime proponents of multilevel marketing (MLM) to question whether the often-controversial industry had reached an all-time low and whether participants would buy into any scheme under the sun. It is clear that promoters either do not know if Narc is engaging in legitimate commerce or do not care if it is not

Narc promoter shows prospects that parking lots at the University of Nevada Las Vegas are an excellent source of license-plate data. Narc prospects in this promoter's YouTube video were given no guidance on whether the university or campus police needed to be consulted before recording the plate numbers of students, faculty and employees. The promoter said "libraries" were excellent sources of license-plate data.Â

– as long as commission checks for recruiting members keep streaming in.

As things stand, there is no way to determine if Narc is operating legally. The reason there is no way is that Narc does not reveal the names of clients, will not step out of the shadows, put an executive and attorney on TV or consent to a probing interview by a print journalist to answer the doubters and publish verifiable financial data audited by a CPA that shows inputs and outputs and the sources of revenue.

Any argument that suggests members are not entitled to this data or that the data is proprietary because Narc is a “private” company is not going to fly. The company’s promoters are saying that license-plate numbers are “public” information available for the harvesting by a membership roster of 52,000 people for the purpose of populating a database that Narc itself has said is going to be used to locate people, cars, boats and any item imaginable. That alone makes it the public’s business. Beyond that, promoters say Narc is using government databases to verify data. The assertion that Narc is using the DMVs of America’s 50 states to verify registration data gives the public a compelling reason to demand answers from the company.

Narc has a duty to tell the public through appropriate channels precisely what database it is using to cross-check data entered by members and how it is accessing the database. It also has a duty to reveal the names of its clients, explain how it screens clients, explain how it screens its data-gatherers, explain whether Narc is able to connect a car to a person when members enter license-plate numbers and explain how the data is secured.

Absent complete transparency, the privacy of every person whose tag number is entered by a Narc member is a potential casualty. It is inconceivable that Narc is empowering itself to collect your license-plate number — no matter where you park — because it has secret clients in the business of repossessing cars and there is a small chance that you are behind on your car payments or a person you do not even know parks his or her car in the same parking lot as you and is behind on his or her car payments.

This is the business Narc has chosen to enter — and the public has a compelling interest in knowing precisely how it operates.

Narc Subjecting Own Promoters To Embarrassment; Promoters, Company Blame It On Media

Narc exposed its own Atlanta-area members and prospects to embarrassment after a Fox 5 reporter showed up to a pitchfest with a hidden camera and could not get answers even to basic questions, but the company has not issued a statement that addresses the concerns in any real way and is suggesting the media is to blame.

No part of the Narc story is consistent with transparency or ordinary business practices — and the media attention likely is only now beginning. Viewers in Atlanta and Los Angeles — two of the largest markets in the United States — now have been treated to an appalling lack of professionalism in the MLM sphere, which only will fuel the public’s legitimate doubts about the industry as a whole.

Why wouldn’t the public believe the Internet is just one giant cesspool after viewing the reports on Fox here and here? If you’re a Narc fan and want to argue that Narc was ambushed, you need to know that Narc had plenty of opportunities to answer questions from journalists before they started hiding their cameras. The PP Blog, for instance, has attempted to contact Narc multiple times. The Blog is aware that other news sites have met dead ends in bids to get Narc executives and knowledgeable employees to answer questions, including NBC-5 of Dallas-Fort Worth and others.

The Fox 5 Atlanta report neatly exposed promoters’ willingness to cheer for a program, duck responsibility for their claims and then hide behind the skirt of a company when the heat became too intense.

The trouble with hiding behind Narc’s skirt, however, was that the skirt provided no cover for members. Promoters found themselves in the awkward position of taking heat for a company that did not defend them in any credible way. Narc’s skirt provided no cover at all, and yet some members merrily continue to promote the opportunity and apparently see no incongruity at all.

Let us spell it out: If you’re going to say the media must get answers from the company rather than promoters in the field, you are hiding behind the company’s skirt. And if the company does not provide the answers, you have no cover at all. This creates the appearance that the prospect of making money is the only thing you value. You certainly don’t value transparency if you’re hiding behind the company’s skirt, and the company certainly does not value transparency by ducking questions, avoiding them altogether or spinning things to create the appearance that the media are responsible for Narc’s lack of transparency.

The media are not responsible for Narc’s bad press; Narc and its promoters are. One Narc promoter created a red banner on a .org site to create the appearance that sending money to Narc was like donating to the Red Cross. Other promoters appropriated the name of the AMBER Alert program to do the same thing on a .org website. At one point the message became so impossibly butchered that a promoter urged prospects to “Help AmberAlert and other organizations find repossessed cars.”

Some Narc members made much ado about a TV anchor referring to Narc as a “job,” but dozens of Narc members posted ads on craigslist that advertised Narc as a job. Promos for Narc have been reprehensible. One member claimed Narc would be used to help the Department of Homeland Security find terrorists. Others claimed that the FBI and the AMBER Alert program endorsed Narc.

These were blatant misrepresentations — plain and simple. If the MLM world wants the rest of the world to take it seriously, it has to quit serving up this slop and stop apologizing for its chefs and the seemingly mindless cheerleaders who cheer for the chefs even when roaches are swimming in the soup.

In the AdSurfDaily case, for instance, the Secret Service said the chef served up a Ponzi scheme. How did the cheerleaders respond? They called the Secret Service, the agency that guards the President and the Treasury, Nazis and “Satan.”

Now, amid a circumstance in which the BBB — one of America’s most recognized business organizations — has questioned whether the Narc chef is serving up a pyramid scheme that potentially affects tens of thousands of people, the cheerleaders are responding by trying to plant the seed that the BBB has a secret agenda and is infested with roaches. It is reprehensible — and it must not stand.

Myriad questions about Narc remain, including these:

Why are Narc promoters so willing to represent a company they know so little about?

Does Narc not understand that vague, ambiguous claims on its own website and its apparent unease in addressing media questions are what’s driving the story?

Why has a Narc PR spokesman not emerged to address media inquiries and become the face of the company? Why aren’t Narc executives stepping out in front of the cameras?

Why have the statements Narc has issued not explained the incongruity of insisting that license-plate data is “public” information while at once insisting the public has no right to know who its clients are, how they are being screened, how data-gatherers are being screened and how the information is being indexed and sold?

Why does Narc insist it has the right to collect your license-plate number and offer it for sale to a third party whose identity and motives are unknown to you?

Why do tens of thousands of Americans suddenly seem so willing to waltz through parking lots of major retailers to record the plate numbers of their neighbors and to recruit others to do the same — when they have knowledge in advance that troubling questions are being asked about the firm?

Why does the repo man suddenly need the help of a commission-hungry MLM army to dispossess people going through lean times?

Any chance that the “buy here, pay here” car business and the title loan business are backing Narc because the industry’s practice of approving anyone for a loan actually is driving repos?

Why are prospects so willing to hand over money when neither sponsors nor Narc itself are willing to provide information that could make the concerns go away?

How many data clients does Narc have and when did the clients become clients? How much revenue do the data clients generate for Narc weekly and monthly?

Is it possible that Narc is selling data to itself through a process in which it formed another company to become a Narc client or is relying on an alter ego of some sort or close association with another firm to create a client out of thin air?

Is Narc closely connected to the “buy here, pay here” automobile business, meaning an entity with a close association with Narc is making high-risk, front-loaded, usurious loans to disadvantaged consumers?

Is Narc closely connected to the title-loan and payday loan business?

Is Narc closely connected to the repossession business?

Does Narc have an investment angel? If so, what is the source of the money and was a private offering involved?

Is Narc making pyramid or Ponzi-style payments to members?

Narc promoter tells prospects the company was started to provide data to the Amber Alert system.

Who are Narc’s executives beyond CEO William Forester?

What are their names, job descriptions and backgrounds?

Do they have high positions in the MLM organization and rely mostly or exclusively on commissions or do they draw a salary?

Who are the members of Narc’s board of directors?

Are police officers involved in Narc? If so, are they collecting information off-duty or on-duty — and are they complying with the policies of their departments and their cities in their efforts to increase their income?

Promoters have claimed that Narc is authorized to verify license-plate data through the DMVs of all 50 states. Is that true? If so, is Narc able to view the names and addresses of vehicle owners and the makes and models of vehicles as police officers could do? If untrue, is Narc verifying the data entered by members through another process — for example, querying databases to determine if a plate number already is “taken” in a state and thus unavailable to any other party, and then concluding the plate is valid simply because it is unavailable to another party?

Is is possible that police officers are querying restricted databases on Narc’s behalf?

The parking lots of these famous companies are sources of license-plate data for Narc affiliates, according to a promoter. Whether any permission is required of store managers or motorists to record plate numbers for entry in a private, for-profit database is left to the imagination.

Are police officers and nonpolice officers alike collecting scores of plate numbers and using their supplies as incentives for people to join Narc? (The PP Blog has observed multiple instances in which Narc sponsors suggested they would supply the first 10 plate numbers to incoming recruits, thus qualifying them for an immediate payment from Narc.)

What part of the approach in the question above is consistent with an attempt to build a valid database, especially if Narc cannot verify that a “gift” plate number actually was viewed in a specific location by the recipient of the gift?

Why has Narc not publicly and loudly renounced the practice of providing the “gift” of plate numbers to incoming prospects? Can Narc tell if entire downline groups are simply trading or recycling existing plate numbers among members and instructing members and prospects to fabricate an address where the plate was sighted?

How can Narc possibly know if the cars members say were parked at a specific location actually were parked there?

What specific event occurred that caused Narc to remove a reference to AMBER Alert in a video promotion and insert the name Code Amber instead?

About Data Network Affiliates . . .

We’ll close this essay by asking a few questions about Data Network Affiliates, Narc’s purported competitor in the business of collecting license-plate numbers:

Is is possible that DNA saw that Narc’s new business of recruiting members to record license-plate numbers was resonating in the MLM universe? And did DNA then engage in a cynical ploy to build a customer base by incorporating Narc’s message — including references to law enforcement and AMBER Alert — simply because it was “working” for Narc?

DNA declares "GAME OVER - WE WIN" repeatedly in a hype-filled email pitch to announce a $10 unlimited cell-phone plan. The company had been in the cell-phone business only days when it claimed to be able to beat virtually every other competitor on earth on cell-phone pricing. Only weeks later DNA claimed it had been hoodwinked into believing it could offer such a price, removing the offer and claiming to be excited about its future.

DNA quickly backed away from emphasizing data collection after it observed Narc becoming the focus of critics who raised concerns about the propriety, safety and legality of Narc — and then DNA morphed into a sort of anti-Narc, saying it existed to help law enforcement only and would never share data with repo companies that wanted to take away cars owned by poor people.

What follows are DNA’s own words (italics added):

“DNA Affiliates STAY ALERT – They are watching out for their neighbors children. If DNA has 1 million affiliates that is 1,000,000 more people watching out for and caring about children world-wide.

“Other companies may collect data to sell to REPO COMPANIES to take cars away from many people who are just down on their luck. A single mom, a dad out of work or 100 other good reasons why good people just can not make a payment. One DNA Affiliate just had his car repossessed because he owed 3 payments and offer to pay two of them and they said no and picked up his car.

“DNA will have no part in such cases. At DNA we collect car data for one purpose and that purpose is that there is a small chance that this data in the right hands could help save a child or help prevent or solve a crime.

“We do not boast of 6 figure contracts with REPO COMPANIES. At the end of the day a DNA Affiliate knows that what they are trying to do will only be a FORCE FOR GOOD in their community…”

DNA also positioned itself as the “free” Narc, before springing a $127 upgrade on customers to purchase a data-entry tool that worked faster than the clunker provided the “free” members at no cost. Free members were not told they were getting a clunker until the upgrade program was announced. Before long, DNA announced it was in the cell-phone business — and plenty of other businesses willing to sell products to members who thought they were joining a “free” business.

Could DNA’s approach be the most cynical, ribald effort in the entire history of MLM? And does the DNA braintrust not recognize that MLM has so many critics precisely because of the obnoxious and absurd approach of the man behind the green curtain and the men letting him get away with serving up ceaseless, hyperbolic slop?

In our view, DNA is the worst example of wretched excess the MLM trade has ever served up — and Narc is close on its heels for enshrinement in the Hall of Shame. To be sure, Narc is not the next Google, DNA is not the next anything — and the industry has demonstrated once again that many, many of its members think that trite talk about arks is the same thing as building one.

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3 Responses to “ESSAY: Why Narc That Car Has A Duty To Reveal The Names Of Its Database Clients And Police Departments Whose Members May Be Narc Consultants”

  1. Website Owner,

    I have now read several pages off your site. No disrespect, and please, don’t lump me into the batch like you tend to do, but
    you offer nothing new with each new page (?). It’s like, “Didn’t I just read that?” I ask myself.

    Each post contains basically the same information. You seem to be fixated with Narc for some odd reason (?). The argument and logic goes round and round, but you’re gaining no ground in your efforts to bring them down, or is there another agenda you have? Whether you do or not, it’s as if you have an axe to grind. I mean, take a breath dude…sit down and take a chill pill.

    I opted in to Jah’s automated emails to hear it “straight from the horses mouth”. I have visited the sites he directed me to & have listened to the conference calls.

    Why not at least condense everything you have to one page and allow people to reply? The countless pages are repetitive, and at first blush would appear you have these new revelations to share with the world.

    Hey, we get your drift. I stumbled on to your site, and I will find my way out in quick fashion, but hey…if you get any NEW information from what is already posted, email me.

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  2. Mark Dennison: I opted in to Jah’s automated emails to hear it “straight from the horses mouth”.

    Website babbler. Since you allege to hear crap “straight from the horses mouth”, perhaps then YOU can reveal what the outside revenue source is that makes this not the ponzi it is.
    And since ‘jah’ has stated over at scam.com that he has nothing to do with management, how could you actually be getting anything at all “straight from the horses mouth”?

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  3. Mark Dennison: I have now read several pages off your site.

    Yes, it’s clear you have. A person posting as “mark” and using your email address asserted March 17 at the URL below that he submitted a comment that was not published:

    http://patrickpretty.com/2010/02/13/new-narc-that-car-shocker-license-plate-numbers-recorded-on-unlv-campus-in-training-video-promoter-tells-youtube-audience-that-libraries-and-schools-good-places-to-capture-data/comment-page-1/#comment-9918

    “What kind of censorship is THAT my friends?!?!” mark asked.

    Not only was the comment published, it was responded to by readers.

    For good measure, “mark” re-asserted the censorship claim March 26:

    http://patrickpretty.com/2010/03/18/narc-that-cars-f-rating-from-better-business-bureau-unchanged-bbb-says-it-asked-for-comprehensive-client-list-to-determine-if-bona-fide-product-with-a-true-market-value-exists/comment-page-1/#comment-10072

    Mark Dennison: No disrespect, and please, don’t lump me into the batch like you tend to do

    Of course you mean to be disrespectful, Mark. Why claim otherwise?

    On March 26, the “mark” associated with your email address asserted that I am a “sorry” character, and I was instructed to “[g]et a life.”

    On March 11, “mark” — who later claimed I didn’t publish his comment despite the fact it was both published and responded to by readers — instructed me to “either get on or get off.”

    But now “Mark” with the same email address as “mark” asserts he means no disrespect.

    Mark Dennison: I opted in to Jah’s automated emails to hear it “straight from the horses mouth”. I have visited the sites he directed me to & have listened to the conference calls.

    Funny thing about Jah. He rails on Scam.com about hearsay purportedly directed at Narc by critics, but then responds to the purported hearsay by providing hearsay of his own: His upline told him this, his upline told him that . . .

    If Jah is relating info to you from a third party, then the info is hardly “straight from the horses mouth,” as you claim. It is, in fact, hearsay. This sort of takes away some of Jah’s thunder when he’s accusing the Scam.com critics of hearsay.

    Until Narc lists its clients and publishes financials, Jah is relating only what he has been told by his upline or by the company in conference calls.

    Mark Dennison: You seem to be fixated with Narc for some odd reason (?). The argument and logic goes round and round, but you’re gaining no ground in your efforts to bring them down, or is there another agenda you have? Whether you do or not, it’s as if you have an axe to grind. I mean, take a breath dude…sit down and take a chill pill.

    Conspiracy theories, too, Mark? You sound like some of the AdSurfDaily and AdViewGlobal and INetGlobal folks.

    Mark Dennison: if you get any NEW information from what is already posted, email me.

    You can count on that not to happen, Mark. In an earlier comment, “mark” asked readers here to “[e]mail me for the skinny, as this yahoo chooses not to accept the truth about the company, but rather elects to bad mouth.”

    So, in review, a person using the name “mark” with Mark’s email address accused me of not publishing posts when the posts were published. Mark means no “disrespect” and implores me not to “lump” him in to the “batch” of people who do, but “mark” who uses the same email address as Mark seeks to curry favor with me by calling me a “sorry” character and a “yahoo.”

    And all of this occurs while Mark is advancing a conspiracy theory and describing Jah’s third-party information as words straight “from the horses mouth.”

    You are making Narc look ridiculous, Mark. Based on your various comments here, I’d say that anyone who emails you for information at best could hope to receive only third-party “skinny” from a rude, name-calling Narc promoter relating info from Jah. This likely means the info you’d relate to prospects is at least double hearsay if not triple.

    Patrick

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