Tag: Daily Profit Pond

  • MEMORY LANE: Before DailyProfitPond ‘Surf Tanked In 2008, Operators Warned That ‘Substainability’ Of 12 Percent Daily Payout Was ‘Questionable’

    EDITOR’S NOTE: We were researching an unrelated matter last night, and came across this gem (outlined below). In 2008, a number of autosurfs that became popular in the aftermath of the seizure of tens of millions of dollars from the personal bank accounts of AdSurfDaily President Andy Bowdoin tanked just prior to Christmas. One of them was Daily Profit Pond. The story below illustrates the fractured thinking that dominates the autosurf landscape — and the role promoters and autosurf “experts” play in spreading spectacular frauds virally on the Internet.

    As incredible as it sounds, an autosurf Ponzi known as Daily Profit Pond (DPP) said it was a legitimate business but warned prior to its collapse during the 2008 holiday season that its advertised payout rate of 12 percent a day might be unsustainable.

    Why promoters and members even had to ponder whether a Ponzi existed or the sustainability of an enterprise that advertised a 144 percent return in 12 days when there was no verifiable source of revenue beyond members’ funds was left to the imagination.

    But ponder it they did . . .

    In a missive to members, DPP described itself as thoughtful company that had listened to the input of unidentified “leaders” before making a decision to slash the advertised payout rate.

    “A few of our members got scarced (sic) and have contacted us that they want such a fine program like DPP to be here in the long run,” DPP said. “We have listen (sic) to these leaders and have decided to make some changes that will ensure the longterm success of DPP.”

    How did DPP address the sustainability issue?

    “[T]he management of DPP have decided to change the 12% daily plan which pays 144% in 12 days to a more realistic plan of 150% earnings in 30 days.”

    Yep. DPP suggested 144 percent in 12 days was too much, but added that 150 percent in 30 days was “more realistic.” DPP did not explain precisely how it had arrived at the conclusion that its new, 150 percent plan was a winner, but it noted (italics added):

    “The DPP administration are expects (sic) in the digital currency business and advertising business. This is where we intend to invest our members (sic) funds and the profit we generate will be used to substain (sic) our members payouts. This new strategy will enable DPP to be there in the long run when all other sites have closed and vanished into the (sic) thin air.”

    And like an overnight infomercial eager to add a free can of snake oil to the deal, DPP shrieked, “But Wait!” (Italics added):

    “How does this work, you may ask?

    “Henceforeth (sic), Our (sic) members will start earning 150% of their profit spots in 30 days. Ref. commission for upgraded members remains 12% down through 3rd levels (sic). 6% commission on level one, 3% ref commission on level two and three.”

    One promoter cheered DPP’s business acumen.

    “Well, I’m glad to see that someone at Daily Profit Pond is paying attention to the accounting,” he said. “They realize that their liability to their existing members is higher than the cash that is flowing in. You don’t have to be a math expert to realize that when you have more money going out than you have coming in, that you are going to run into cash problems pretty fast.

    “For the people who are upset by this change, I can understand where you are coming from but you have got to look at the alternative.

    “Would you rather keep earning 12% per day of virtual money that you will NEVER receive? Or would you rather earn 5% per day of money that you will actually be able to cash out? The choice is obvious.”

    Records suggest that DPP’s site vanished a week prior to Christmas in 2008. One ad viewed by the PP Blog prior to the collapse of DPP said it was possible to start with $12 and turn it into $12,000.

    Just days earlier DPP had lamented surf sites that vanish into “thin air.”

    Surfs such as DPP and MegaLido, which also went missing prior to the 2008 Holiday season, were particularly noxious. Members of AdSurfDaily and Golden Panda Ad Builder, whose assets were seized by the U.S. Secret Service in August 2008, cynically promoted DPP and MegaLido to other members of ASD, suggesting these miserable enterprises provided a way for people who lost money in ASD and Golden Panda to get it back quickly.

    Good grief: 144 percent in 12 days — later slashed to a “more realistic” 150 percent in 30 days.

    There was an earnings “calculator,” of course.

  • A SILENT DEATH? Did GoldenPandaAdZone Forum For Autosurf Shills Follow Surf’s Up Into The Electronic Graveyard?

    Has the Golden Panda Ad Zone forum, which was renamed the Online Success Zone after federal agents seized tens of millions of dollars from AdSurfDaily and Golden Panda Ad Builder in 2008, followed the Pro-AdSurfDaily Surf’s Up forum into the dust?

    The website URL — http://goldenpandaadzone.ning.com — now is returning the same error message Surf’s Up produced when it went missing early this year. Other failed autosurf forums on ning.com have generated the same error message.

    It was not immediately clear how long the Golden Panda Ad Zone forum has been offline. The forum was a meeting place at which promoters shilled for autosurf programs, cash-gifting schemes and other questionable “business opportunities” such as recyclers.

    It is believed that every single autosurf program pitched on the Golden Panda Ad Zone Forum collapsed or is in the process of failing, giving the forum an unblemished record for failure. In recent weeks, the forum was used to promote MLM programs such as Narc That Car and Data Network Affiliates.

    In one memorable video, the forum pitched multiple surf programs that reportedly collapsed this year or last after the spectacular seizures in the ASD case. These included — but are not limited to — Biz Ad Splash, AdGateWorld and Daily Profit Pond.

    Biz Ad Splash purportedly was operated by Clarence Busby, who presided over the collection of more than $14 million before it was seized in the ASD case and an untold sum with Biz Ad Splash. AdGateWorld, meanwhile, collapsed after collecting an untold sum and purportedly being sold to buyers in the “Middle East.”

    Daily Profit Pond, which suddenly went missing just prior to Christmas in 2008 after collecting an untold sum, also was said to have collapsed.

    In AdGateWorld’s earliest days, the acronym “ASD” appeared in its Terms of Service, which suggested the surf simply copied and pasted terms from one program to another.

    The Golden Panda Ad Zone forum also was notable for promoting MegaLido, another program that resulted in a spectacular flameout prior to the 2008 Holiday Season, and a host of cash-gifting schemes promoted as “Pay It Forward.”

    “Pay It Forward” is a promotional scheme by which members sign up under each others links as a means of assuring they can build downlines or establish relationships with like-minded participants.

    Autosurf programs that pay a lower daily rate “normally have sustainability,” a forum pitchman counseled prospects in a video. He cited no authority for the claim, but noted that 7 percent to 14 percent a week was a “really, really good” return that no bank could match.

    “I can assure you [of] that,” the pitchman said, noting that higher return-on-investment surf programs “just tend to go away quicker.”

    MegaLido, he explained, might have been a clunker because its advertised payout rate of about 13 percent a day perhaps made it unsustainable. How a program that paid a lower rate of say, 1 percent a day or 365 percent a year, could be any more sustainable without being a Ponzi scheme never was explained.

    Like their brick-and mortar cousins, autosurf Ponzi schemes are not sustainable. They sustain themselves temporarily only through the use of smoke-and-mirrors, paying old members with money from new members to create the mirage of sustainability and performing other sleight-of-hand such as “80/20” programs to minimize cash outflow. Ponzi scheme operators typically siphon funds paid by investors, which is a form of theft. Prosecutors view the money as proceeds of a crime.

    Like the Surf’s Up forum — but to a lesser degree — the Golden Panda Ad Zone forum became an outlet for members to complain about how the government views the autosurf “industry.” Some members complained openly, if not bitterly, about perceived “slow” refunds as a result of the seizure of assets connected to ASD and Golden Panda.

    Those assets were seized amid wire-fraud, money-laundering and Ponzi scheme allegations — but members continued to push surf programs even after the seizure, while still complaining about “slow” refunds.

    The complaints continued even after the government explained it had not perfected title to the seized assets because of court challenges by Andy Bowdoin. Although the government now holds title to the assets, an appeal filed by Bowdoin in one of the forfeiture cases — and the prospect of a Bowdoin appeal being filed in a second case — means that restitution could be delayed even longer, prosecutors said.

    Some Golden Panda Ad Zone members positioned new surf programs as a means by which ASD and Golden Panda members could recover losses. Like Surf’s Up, entire threads went missing at the Golden Panda Ad Zone forum.

    One thread that went missing pertained to a surf program purportedly operated by ASD Chief Executive Officer Juan Fernandez after the ASD seizure. Some Golden Panda Ad Zone members  used religion in their sales pitches.

    Religion also was an element in ASD pitches. ASD President Andy Bowdoin told a crowd assembled at a company “rally” in Las Vegas that he thanked God for making him a “money magnet.”

    Prosecutors said Bowdoin family members and at least one insider embarked on a spending spree less than two weeks after the Las Vegas rally concluded on May 31, 2008, purchasing cars, jet skis, a boat and haul equipment — and retiring the $157,000 mortgage on the Tallahassee home of George and Judy Harris.

    George Harris is Bowdoin’s stepson. Members later said he was the co-owner of the AdViewGlobal (AVG)  autosurf, which crashed and burned in June 2009, after launching in the aftermath of the ASD seizure and in the weeks after a key court ruling went against ASD.

    Some members of the Golden Panda Ad Zone also pitched AVG, despite everything that had happened to ASD, Golden Panda and a related surf known as LaFuenteDinero. There were reports later that at least $2.7 million was stolen from AVG, but the reports have not been confirmed.

    After AVG announced a suspension of cashouts last summer and exercised its version of a “rebates aren’t guaranteed” clause, the surf said that, if the program restarted, an “80/20” program would become mandatory.

    AVG pitchmen started out by saying the surf paid about 1 percent a day — or 365 percent a year — an amount the Golden Panda Ad Zone pitchman described as reasonable and sustainable for  autosurfs in general.

    The claims were made despite the fact that prosecutors had laid out a case against ASD that its 1 percent daily payout rate was unsustainable and that the surf was insolvent.

  • Surf’s Up: ‘Paperless Access’ Misrepresented Itself To Bowdoin

    The Paperless Access video starring ASD President Andy Bowdoin went missing because the company misrepresented itself to Bowdoin, according to a Mod at the Pro-ASD Surf's Up forum.
    The Paperless Access video starring ASD President Andy Bowdoin went missing because the company misrepresented itself to Bowdoin, according to a Mod at the Pro-ASD Surf's Up forum.

    Upstart surfing company Paperless Access “was not accurately presented” to Andy Bowdoin, who made the decision to ask the company to remove a video that starred Bowdoin, a Mod at the Pro-ASD Surf’s Up forum reported tonight.

    The Mod said Paperless Access had been banned as a topic for forum discussion, advising members that, if they wanted to talk about it, to “please start a group in the Business Center!”

    With those words, Surf’s Up closed the thread to discussion. The forum had deleted at least three previous threads about Paperless Access and the Bowdoin video in recent days.

    Many ASD members expressed outrage after Bowdoin appeared in the video. Tonight members were questioning why Bowdoin sent a broadcast email for Paperless Access today, after declaring it did not accurately represent itself to him and deciding to ask the company to remove the video.

    Bowdoin, whom lawyers said today had managed for more than two months to avoid being served a lawsuit accusing him of racketeering, enraged some ASD members by appearing in the video.

    He pitched Paperless Access as a way ASD members could recapture money seized by the U.S. Secret Service last year amid allegations of wire fraud, money-laundering and operating a $100 million Ponzi scheme.

    A Blog reader, “Joe,” reported this evening that Paperless Access is registered as a Wyoming corporation. We confirmed the registration through the state database.

    “Joe” also reported that the company appears to be trading on Ponzi pain, saying it had positioned itself as an outlet for people who “had income seized by the government for buying advertising” or people who know people who’ve had income seized by the government.

    Paperless Access even has an acronym for seized money: LAL, which stands for “Legal Advertising Losses.”

    At the same time, “Joe” said he visited the site and found that seven out of 25 sites he viewed in the advertising rotator were not compliant with the Paperless Access Terms of Service. This computes to a noncompliance rate of 28 percent.

    Plenty of surfs have failed in recent weeks and months, including Aggero Investment, Premium Ads Club, MegaLido, Frogress, Daily Profit Pond and others.

    Promoters pitched some of the failed surfs as a remedy for ASD’s woes.

    Surf’s Up did not explain how Paperless Access had misrepresented itself to Bowdoin. The video was pulled a few days ago.

  • DailyProfitPond: Another Autosurf Offline

    Members of an autosurf known as DailyProfitPond are reporting the website is offline and that they fear they’ve lost their money.

    DailyProfitPond is yet another autosurf that launched in the wake of the August seizure of tens of millions of dollars and real estate linked to Andy Bowdoin’s AdSurfDaily, also known as ASD Cash Generator.

    One ad we viewed from a DailyProfitPond promoter said it was possible to start with $12 and turn it into $12,000. The “return” was listed as 150 percent over 30 days. DailyProfitPond’s website now is returning an “Address Not Found” error.

    An autosurf known as MegaLido also will not load pages. Some MegaLido members said they were out hundreds or thousands of dollars.