UPDATE: ‘Wealth Creation Alliance’ Now Publishing Ads For HYIP Scheme After HYIP Scheme
ProfitClicking was one of the "programs" advertised on Wealth Creation Alliance today.
UPDATE: (UPDATED 11:51 A.M. EDT U.S.A.) Our first story on Wealth Creation Alliance (WCA) is here. Like the collapsed Zeek Rewards MLM scheme that the SEC accused last month of being a $600 million Ponzi- and pyramid fraud, WCA preemptively denies it is an investment company. And WCA also specifically denies in is an “HYIP,” despite the fact it claims that a $2 “purchase” of an “ad unit” will return $3.25.
Apparently positioning itself as an “advertising” company, WCA now is publishing ads for HYIP scheme after HYIP scheme on its website. One of the ads is for “ProfitClicking,” the apparent successor scam to the JSS/Tripler/JustBeenPaid scheme that seeks to make members affirm they are not with the “government” while simultaneously seeking to disclaim any responsibility on the part of itself and affiliates for advancing the scheme, which plants the Zeek-like seed that annualized returns in the hundreds of percent are there for the making.
Another ad on the WCA site today read as follows (italics added):
New A2P Pre-launch
7% daily for 30 days
10% income on 2 levels
Join Free!
Click Here Now
A2P is shorthand for Alert2Pay, which purports to have a “ShortTerm Plan” for 30 days and a “LongTerm Plan” for 70 days. Both plans permit “compounding,” a key marker of an HYIP scam.
And Alert2Pay also explains what it is not, another key marker of a scam.
“Alert2pay is not a hyip, not a mlm, not a doubler and definitely not a cycler. We’re a Targeted Email Advertising company that’s Paying You Daily Cash Back on ALL Your Advertising Purchases. We sit under the umbrella called AI Corp, (AlertInvest Corporation). Alert2Pay.com is the first website under the AI Corp umbrella.”
Another “program” pitched on WCA is something called HourHour. Here is the text pitch (italics added):
Get 120% in 5 days!
Paying hourly!
Licensed Script!
Click Here Now
HourHour purports to pay “1% FIXED HOURLY FOR 120 HOURS” or “150% AFTER 240 HOURS.” Meanwhile, the HourHour “program” advertises that its accepts SolidTrustPay and other offshore payment processors. SolidTrustPay has been linked to fraud scheme after fraud scheme and was one of the processors used by Zeek.
See article on WCA at BehindMLM.com. Visit WCA thread on RealScam.com.
The back office has been ‘under maintenance’ for at least the last 18 hours.
However people can still join.
>>Our back office will be temporarily down for maintainence. We will be back up shortly. Thank you for your patience! ~ WCA Support Staff<<
I signed up for free yesterday and was just about to put $10 to it to see if it really worked but now after all this time of being down I am highly skeptical. Is there no such thing as a online business with passive income, or does that mean it is a scam? Any feedback would be great!
Claims about “passive income” long are associated with HYIP Ponzi schemes and raise the realistic prospect that a “program” will come under scrutiny for selling unregistered securities as investment contracts. That can lead to civil AND criminal litigation — as it did in the AdSurfDaily Ponzi scheme and the Legisi Ponzi scheme, for instance.
Such “programs” put participants in the position of getting fleeced of significant sums and potentially even becoming defendants in court actions.
One of the things the scammers “teach” is to make a “test spend” of a small amount. After that, shills will race to the Ponzi forums to make “I Got Paid” posts as a means of suggesting the program must not be a scam because it’s “paying.”
See this story:
https://patrickpretty.com/2010/07/15/go-finra-regulator-tackles-online-hyips-issues-warning-on-social-media-linked-ponzi-schemes-references-p2p-genius-funds-con-artists-and-bizarre-substratum-of-internet/
See this story:
https://patrickpretty.com/2012/03/28/urgent-bulletin-moving-legisi-ponzi-scheme-pitchman-matthew-j-gagnon-ordered-to-pay-more-than-4-2-million-in-disgorgement-penalties/
Patrick
Any one want to check Blaine William’s records? There’s newspaper coverage about how Sheriff’s dept raided one of their sales meetings in 1999 (they’re selling “constitution course kits”) Williams is on BehindMLM claiming charges were dropped. I tried to check Fresno superior court and their web search form is FUBAR.
K. Chang, before you vilify someone do some research and get the whole story. Blaine, along with the other four defendants were dismissed on 7-7-03.
This raid was either about an unknown new sheriff who wanted to make a name for himself on TV for four days. Basically, saying “see how tough on crime I am.” (He was judge and jury, never used the word “alledged”) Or, the government needed to shut down a group selling books/DVD’s and information on the constitution, or both. Yes, indeed, this group was selling Cleon Skousen’s awesome constitutional materials – first course was “The Miracle of America”. Heaven forbid the people become educated on the constitution! If this group had not been shut down, perhaps America would be on a different path today! The case was no. F00004708-5. The courts bounced it around for over 4 years not knowing what to do with it because it was so bogus until finally a decent judge, Nunez, dismissed it on 7-7-03. This arrest and raid was so traumatic for the wife of one of the defendants, she developed cancer and passed away. All of the records of the case can be found in the Superior Court Archives at 1963 E Street, Fresno, CA.
lol. you are truly a dumbass. Do you really expect anyone to believe that garbage. It certainly ruins what little credibility you ahd to begin with.
And what did you think I was doing? Did you actually *read* what I wrote? I said there’s newspaper coverage of the raid, and not of the case dismissal, and can anyone else find more info on it. Sheesh!
They are revising updating and adding to the site for the overall improvement of the program. To judge the company at this point is quite premature the site is in testing, prelaunch etc. What it turns out to be we have yet to see, but soon we will know, The Conference call last night had some great info and when followed through on it could be interesting…
One thought to all of the people that holler “PONZI” with out a chance being given… What company does this statement reflect, In 2003 – its ninth year of operations, and seven years after going public – —- finally turned a profit.
Billions in income and hundreds of millions in losses, but by the hair of their teeth they pulled it off.
Just a thought
LOL.
WCA is not Amazon.
Or Google.
Or Microsoft.
Or any other company that actually created something unique to provide solutions for actual customers.
WCA is just another run of the mill ponzi feebly pretending to be legit using wordplay.
The biggest accomplishment WCA has the hopes of achieving is surviving long enough to be shut down like the big ponzis.
Howdy Richard, it’s hard to tell without forum avatars but weren’t you a mainstay of the old “Surfs Up” forum?
Any chance you were in Zeek as well?
So, Richard, did your (strawman) 9 year old company offer:
* a daily “ROI”
* 10% “referral commission”
* 5% “referral commission”
all of them without any “product”
Are you saying WCA is a “public” company ?? You know, having offered shares to enable it to survive its’ startup period ??
Come to think of it, what is it exactly that makes WCA “like” your mystery company ??
Is it the same sort of “like” as AdSurf Daily was “like” an advertising company or a Porsche is “like” a Volkswagen ??
>>They are revising updating and adding to the site for the overall improvement of the program<<
They had only been open a week or two. With the so called experience of those running it, one would have expected they'd have thought this out before opening in the first place.
They certainly didn't start out as they mean to go on.
I'm careful of new programs with the bait and switch method – all in the name of compliance.
Quick note: Oz over at BehindMLM.com is reporting that Wealth Creation Alliance” (WCA) has kept the same acronym but changed its name to “World Consumer Advocates” and also seems to be referring to itself as “World Consumer Alliance.”
http://behindmlm.com/companies/world-consumer-alliance-reboot-due-to-scam-reports
Patrick
Its crazy!!!! Every time something u think good happens someone comes ALONE and yells PONZIE ???? Why is this zeekler was a great business at first and they could not keep up, so there for it turned into a PONZIE not sure if anyone watched the news but taped on the window at the head quarters for zeekler was a poster board that said we forgive restructure and SAVE our dreams. Well I wrote that! I’m ready to have faith in a company and dream!!!! So please stop with all the rude comments not everything that actually can make u money is out to get u
So, your “dream” is to sit on your ass in front of the computer for 5 minutes a day and make a bunch of money on the backs of other people?
The sheer laziness of most of the Zeek crowd is amazing.
Falisha,
Did you join WCA with money you earned in Zeek?
I don’t know, Falisha. I’m thinking that, had more people listened to the “rude comments” about Zeek, the “program” would not have swelled to the point where it potentially affects between 1 million and 2 million people.
Patrick
Theft of other people’s money is not a ‘business’.
Another rude comment, wow is really all I can say. I’m pretty sure having hopes and dreams while at the same time going to school and working a full time job is nothing but pure hope that something just has to come alone to make things better ( life)!
I know what zeekler did was wrong that’s why I wrote We forgive you please RESRUCTURE and save our dreams meaning( lets get this business a business! Fix what made it become bad) because ( it was not a PONZI in the beginning)
Falisha
Patrick,
No I did not sign up with the money made from zeekler.
Rumor has it that zeekler might be reopening? Not sure if it’s just rumors.
Falisha,
Yes, it was a ponzi from the very beginning.
No, Zeekler will not be reopening.
I’m sorry for your loss and your personal struggles.
However, making legitimate and significant money online is not accomplished by making a monthly spend for “bids” or any other digital product and posting one lousy post to a classified ad site per day.
There is plenty of time, effort, and learning involved.
@Falisha
What made Zeek bad was you yourself (indirectly).
Zeek sold the (false, but believable) answer to people’s hopes, dreams and ideas, and to their willingness to believe in illusions. It wouldn’t have become so bad if people had been more realistic, and had been less focused on their own hopes and dreams.
“Realistic” means that everyone probably should have known that a tiny little penny auction website can’t support payouts to several hundred thousands affiliates doing almost NOTHING to make it become profitable. Most focused on their own income, recruiting affiliates to their downline rather than driving customers to the auctions.
There’s nothing wrong in your hopes and dreams, but they won’t work very well when they’re not supported by reality. In Zeek, they were only fake hopes and dreams, and they’re not worth replicating over and over again.
You’ll either have to go “all in” and become a serial scammer yourself, or adjust yourself to become more realistic in your own hopes and dreams, and what you are willing to believe in. Or find areas where there’s no conflicts between hopes and dreams vs the reality. Zeek wasn’t the answer to any of them.
WCA have started scamming and thieving before they started, many people are complaing of lost cash and positions, support ignore all requests to investigate, they dont even address this on their conference calls. I just listened to a call and I had to laugh at this statement “dont let nuthin stop you going forward” Ha, well stealing cash and positions is stopping people going forward, this scam needs to stop right now…I wrote on scam.com yesterday and today I find I was banned from scam.com and the post had gone, anyway if anyone is interested here is the latest BS conference call
https://www.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback.asp?n=-17-65-67106-17-65-671238880-17-65-67-17-65-67-17-65-67246596-17-65-67-17-65-6714;1NzAzOTY4OTA=1
Man… you suck.
@Mike
LOL, thank you so much for posting that link. I actually have seen steaming piles of bull crap piled higher than that before but Robert Kuntz was a second generation con man so had something of a head start.
So, not only will WCA be bigger than Craigslist but they’ll be bigger than Goupon and Amazon as well and all at the same time. And they’ll do this while paying Ken “DRDave” Russo $1,000 a day to make posts on TalkGold. There comes a point in time when you just have to appreciate absurdity.
I mentioned Robert Kuntz, Google his name with the word “buzzbot” and you’ll start to get what I’m talking about. He made outlandish claims about, well everything. He’d “reinvent” the internet he’d add “Web2.0 functionality” to every site on the web. He said all that and more with the “more” being that he’d make you rich if you gave him your money.
Well, I say this without having checked into him in a few months but he seems to be an inactive scammer for a period of time. But back in the day he lied with an audacity I found amusing. I am glad he doesn’t seem to be pilfering peoples money but in a strange way I kinda miss him.
So I am glad Mike posted that link, it’s hard to find scammers who think so little of their target market’s intelligence as to fabricate such stupefying deceptions. They aren’t quite on Robert’s level yet, but they’re gaining on him.
At the beginning the speed in buying positions was very good people were repurchsing every 10 minutes and good money was being made, We all now know that the script was bought from your yourfreeworld.com very cheap with the ability to change the speed of the way it runs via cron job, it seems at the beginning when the speed was very good, people rushed to promote and repurchase and now it is crawling, no doubt to fill the pockets of these crooks now that 70.000 have signed up, so now they are pocketing most of the cash,
What really pisses me off is the rah rah braindead chearleaders in the WCA and other programs FB groups who will boot you from the group at any hint of negativity despite the fact that WCA has everything stacked against them at the moment in terms of trust and loyalty, yet these rah rahers continue the crap, “oh wait and see its early days” and we have a newborn baby with teething troubles….my arse, idiots are born every minute who are they trying to kid.
People are now earning 50 cents a day after they tweaked the script to line their pockets and give the members a pittance
I would be thinking more along the lines of a HYIP ponzi running out of new members is what’s causing the slowdown in payments, rather than insiders raking off extra profits.
After all, it’s the post Zeek era, it’s coming up to the traditional Black December period for HYIPs and, to top it off, there’s nothing new or innovative about Wealth Creations Alliance which would warrant it lasting longer than any other run-of-the-mill HYIP ponzi.
IM(very)HO it would be unusual, indeed, if the current crop of “next big thing” HYIPs lasted more than a few more weeks.
Hi LRM,
One of the things I’ve noticed is that the explosion of post-Zeek new “opportunities” appears to be greater than even the explosion of new “opportunities” in the post-ASD era in August 2008. About four or five ASD clones formed after the ASD seizure. The Zeek clones may top that in number — and HYIPs in general may dwarf it before it’s all over.
In short, more hucksters — knowing full well Zeek raked in $600 million — are positioning themselves in the HYIP sphere as “auction” companies or run-of-the-mill HYIPs and surfs because Zeek effectively demonstrated that putting $1 billion on the table was possible. ASD’s ceiling was about $120 million.
What’s interesting is that the emerging operators appear to have little or no concern that they could be raking in a participant’s ill-gotten gains from the Zeek scheme. That is “dangerous” money, given that it could be subjected to clawbacks by the Zeek receiver.
Let’s say Person X got $10,000 from Zeek knowing full well it was ill-gotten gains and knowing full well it was subject to clawback or even an in rem forfeiture complaint. Let’s further say Person X decided to “hide” that money by putting it in WCA.
It’s not good to be WCA under any circumstance. But it’s especially not good to be WCA if it ends up in possession of money that came from Zeek.
For now, this question is an imponderable: What happens if the receiver goes after the ill-gotten Zeek gains of Person X — and Person X explains he’s plowed all of that money into WCA (or any of the post-Zeek “auctions” or HYIPs)?
Zeek itself had many problems, not the least of which it almost certainly came into possession of tainted funds from other fraud schemes promoted on the Ponzi boards — and then deposited THOSE funds into banks and payment-processing accounts.
WCA and all the other emerging “opportunities” are going to have the exact same problem.
Patrick
Now I see ponzi pimp Ken Russo is getting paid by WCA to post his BS on talkgold….
Originally Posted by DRdave
I am pleased to report that the first of the pending withdrawals has now been
processed. I submitted the request at about 9 PM on Tuesday, 10/2. Therefore, it has taken about 60 hours for this transaction to be completed which is well within the stated time frame of 5 to 7 days…
Date: October 05, 2012 2:15:02 PM
Amount Sent: $1,000.00 USD
Sender Name: World Consumer Alliance
Sender Email: sales@wcarev.com
Reference Number: BAB9C-9AC86-4AD38
Message: World Consumer Alliance Payment
Thanks again WCA!
Pay no attention to the jokers that are shouting scam. They have
no idea what is going on!
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