Pitchman Says Hong Kong-Based ‘Program’ Is ‘1,000 Percent Better’ Than Profitable Sunrise And Zeek Rewards

John Schepcoff says he potentially lost more than $193,000 in Profitable Sunrise but that a new "program" is "1,000 percent" better.

John Schepcoff says he potentially lost more than $193,000 in Profitable Sunrise but that a new “program” is “1,000 percent” better.

In a bizarre and disturbing video playing on YouTube, a former Profitable Sunrise pitchman claims a new “program” he joined is operating from Hong Kong and is purveyed by an unidentified  “doctor.”

The purported opportunity is “1,000 percent better” than Profitable Sunrise or Zeek Rewards, according to the video.

News of the video first was reported on the RealScam.com antiscam forum.

Pitchman John Schepcoff did not identify the new “program” in the 14:32 video. But he described it as invitation-only. Zeek made similar claims, according to the SEC’s August 2012 Ponzi- and pyramid action against the North Carolina-based firm and accused operator Paul. R. Burks. The SEC described Zeek as a $600 million fraud scheme.

In April 2013, the agency described Profitable Sunrise as a pyramid scheme that may have gathered tens of millions of dollars, in part through using financial conduits in the Czech Republic, Australia, Panama and China.

“There’s a litttle bit of a [learning] curve, like also Zeek Rewards in a way, but he made it 1,000 percent better,” Schepcoff said of the new Hong Kong “program.”

Earlier in the video, Schepcoff claimed the new program was “1,000 percent better” than Profitable Sunrise.

Schepcoff put $8,225 into the new program, he claimed in the video. He further claimed he’d potentially lost more than $193,500 in Profitable Sunrise but is holding out hope that “Roman Novak” somehow will resurrect the “program.”

It is unclear whether “Roman Novak” actually exists, according to court filings.

Among other things, Schepcoff claims in the video that Profitable Sunrise participants need to accept personal responsibility for their losses in the “program” and should not blame individuals such as himself or Profitable Sunrise pitchwoman Nanci Jo Frazer.

“Stop blaming people, and say, ‘I am responsible,'” Schepcoff coached. Other people who should not be blamed include “Roman Novak,” he noted.

And Schepcoff claimed he is “so happy” and “really, really happy” he got into the new program. Smiles, however, are absent from his face throughout the video.

With respect to Profitable Sunrise, Schepcoff described the “program’s” scheme that purportedly permitted “compound[ing]” at a daily interest rate of between 2.15 percent and 2.7 percent as a “no-brainer” for a coach and mentor in finance such as himself.

“And I teach people about the . . . way how things are done,” he said.

When he heard about Profitable Sunrise in December 2012, Schepcoff said, “I basically ran to my bank, and I couldn’t get the money in fast enough.”

Just four months earlier — in August 2012 — the SEC said Zeek duped people into believing they were receiving a legitimate return of about 1.5 percent a day. The Profitable Sunrise “Long Haul” plan purported almost to double Zeek’s purported daily payout.

“I kept putting wire transfers after wire [transfer]” into Profitable Sunrise,” Schepcoff said, suggesting he took money out of retirement accounts to do so.

“Greed” that became like a “cancer” controlled his behavior in Profitable Sunrise, he said. Schepcoff did not explain what was driving his behavior in sending funds to the purported Hong Kong “program” purportedly purveyed by the “doctor.”

The new program apparently relies on a secret strategy designed to prevent links from being shared publicly and is “amazing” in “what it does,” he said. “There’s people — I can tell you this — that are bringing out only in five months over [$]40,000.”

One person, according Schepcoff, told him that he’d taken out “over [$]200,000” from the new program in a single day.

Some HYIP “programs” are pitched by “sovereign citizens” and political extremists who divine a construction by which participants are “free” to spend their money as they see fit and that specific word combinations insulate purveyors from any liability if a “program” collapses or becomes the subject of an action by law enforcement.

HYIP scams typically are promoted on social-media sites such as YouTube, Twitter and Facebook, FINRA said in a 2010 warning.

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14 Responses to “Pitchman Says Hong Kong-Based ‘Program’ Is ‘1,000 Percent Better’ Than Profitable Sunrise And Zeek Rewards”

  1. The super top secret program isnt Xplocial is it?
    There’s this drivel on youtube & more from “don’t blame me” John.

    It seems to have been uploaded on 6th May.

  2. Tony H: The super top secret program isnt Xplocial is it?

    Not sure, Tony. Seems is could be something called “Better-Living Global Marketing” — but even that remains unclear.


  3. Better-living Global Marketing. A subsidiary of MSP Power Marketing, Hong Kong

  4. admin: “Better-Living Global Marketing”

    OK. If it is this one, it has a lot of Zeek-like stink varnish about the enormous profitability of penny auctions and is positioned as a sort of upscale Zeek auctioning Rolex watches and upscale designer goods.

    Saw a video in which a Louis Vuitton purse purportedly worth $1,665 retail generated a “whopping profit of $36,438” in the upstart penny auction.

    There’s also something associated with it called the “Retirement Plan.”

    On a side note, the PP Blog recently has been getting sort of generalized spam about designer goods of the sort Better-Living Global Marketing purportedly auctions. The spam hasn’t included links to Better-Living Global Marketing. Rather, it is just virtually nonstop hawking of purported designer items.

    Other than the HYIP elements, the Better-Living Global Marketing recruits/prospects might want to question whether the items purportedly auctioned can be authenticated as genuine. In theory, it could be an HYIP scam married to an outfit that is selling knockoffs as genuine — assuming it is actually selling anything.


  5. BLGM? I’m pretty sure it’s a part of eAdGear, who was behind GoFunPlaces. Either that or it’s competitor / clone.

  6. The problem with these pitches is “Why should I trust your judgement that this is 1000% better if you can’t spot the previous thing as a scam? Didn’t you say this about that previous thing too?”

  7. I see he “suited up” for this video.

    Trying to make a good impression?

    Too little too late… and too stupid.


  8. Quick note: In the past 90 minutes or so, the PP Blog has received at least seven spams for various designer goods, including Gucci and Burberry. Some of it appears to have originated in China, and some from California.


  9. Of course, all of the “designer goods” from Hong Kong are genuine……

  10. Mr Schepcoff is right about one thing, though.

    It is “1000% better” than Zeek Rewards.

    So far, it’s “paying” and still around.

    That HAS to be better than Zeeks’ current status.

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  13. I am very convinced that all of these avenues to “easy quick money” are all scams. I would never invest in one of these so-called companies. BUT, I have a friend who invested in this Better-Living Global Marketing. She invested her money about 6 months ago and now is told that all “funds” are on hold by the bank (what bank?) and won’t become available until around March – this makes no sense at all.

    So is this a SCAM or another pyramid scheme. Please tell us.