BULLETIN: USDA Following Specific Leads In MPB Today Matter; Agency’s Food And Nutrition Arm Will ‘Take Appropriate Action As Needed’

BULLETIN: The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) said this afternoon that the agency’s Food and Nutrition Service is following specific leads in the MPB Today matter and will “take appropriate action as needed.”

For the first time, the agency used the word “investigate” in its remarks about MPB Today, an MLM tied to a purported “grocery” business known as Southeastern Delivery of Pensacola, Fla. USDA previously referred to the MPB Today matter as a “review.” The agency did not explain why the Food and Nutrition Service had entered the probe.

The Food and Nutrition Service, known as FNS, says its “mission is to provide children and needy families better access to food and a more healthful diet through its food assistance programs and comprehensive nutrition education efforts.”

The announcement followed on the heels of claims by MPB Today affiliates that there are liars and thieves within the organization, that the government and Walmart endorsed the MPB Today program and that the USDA’s Food Stamp program was “affiliated” with MPB Today.

On Tuesday, the PP Blog reported that a purported “news release” promoting MPB Today suggested that Food Stamp recipients should sell $200 of their allotment to raise money to join the MLM program.

Yesterday the Blog reported that at least two MPB Today members claimed there are liars and thieves inside the organization, using the claims to suggest prospects should join the program only under specific downlines. The Blog also reported that MPB Today affiliates may have ties to the judicially declared CEP Ponzi scheme, the alleged AdSurfDaily Ponzi scheme and other Ponzi schemes promoted on forums such as ASAMonitor, TalkGold and MoneyMakerGroup.

All three forums were referenced in a criminal case filed in May by the U.S. Postal Inspection Service against the alleged Pathway To Prosperity Ponzi scheme.

In July, the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA) issued a warning about HYIP scams that use forums and social-media sites such as YouTube and Facebook to spread virally on the Internet.

MPB Today’s website says it ships “ONLY” dry goods to customers, who can expect to pay a shipping charge of up to 50 percent of an order. MPB Today affiliates have used the high shipping charges as a reason for Food Stamp recipients and other customers to join to the MLM program, saying a one-time purchase of $200 in groceries could result in free groceries for life.

Affiliates have claimed MPB Today issues grocery “vouchers” that can be converted to Walmart gift cards and cash to purchase gasoline, electronics and other nonfood products.

Among other things, the purported “news release” claimed that the idea about selling Food Stamps for cash to join MPB Today occurred “[on] a beautiful Sunday afternoon” during a drive home from “Church.”

One promo for MPB Today showed a 46-inch Samsung television and other electronics that purportedly had been acquired by an MPB Today member through the program. Other promos have show prepaid Visa cards that spend like cash.

MPB Today operates a 2×2 matrix cycler — a business model that has come under fire by the U.S. Secret Service in a Ponzi scheme probe in the Seattle area. The Seattle program was known as Regenesis2x2, and was promoted on some of the same forums MPB Today is being promoted.

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26 Responses to “BULLETIN: USDA Following Specific Leads In MPB Today Matter; Agency’s Food And Nutrition Arm Will ‘Take Appropriate Action As Needed’”

  1. This has an air of foreboding, there’s always one affiliate that says a lot more than he should, just to get more people to sign up under him (her). I’m betting MPB doesn’t want this kind of attention.

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  2. It gives rise to a cautious optimism to hear that MPB is being investigated by the USDA’s Food and Nutrition Service. One of the worst aspects of MPB has been its blatant targeting of low income families in receipt of Food Stamps with its promises of free food for life and other eroneous claims.

    Abuse of Government Aid is equally immoral whether it is practised by large institutions in receipt of bail outs or by MLM businesses who sell groceries (or memberships of a 2 x 2 matrix, if you prefer.
    Perhaps it would serve some of the protestors against all things “government” to remember that the public funds used for Food Stamps (that they indirectly contribute to) were never intended to line the pockets of the owners and leaders of MLMs. Food Stamps are not for people who want “Financial Freedom” as an IBO of an MLM. They are given to people who need them and, for the most part, would be very happy to have JOBS .

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  3. WishfulThinking: Perhaps it would serve some of the protestors against all things “government” to remember that the public funds used for Food Stamps (that they indirectly contribute to) were never intended to line the pockets of the owners and leaders of MLMs.

    Hi Wishful Thinking,

    It’s interesting to consider that USDA was not on the roster of agencies that comprised President Obama’s interagency Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force upon creation last winter. There is a provision to add it, if necessary.

    What this looks like to me right now is a bid by some affiliates to tap into the Food Stamp pipeline. In short, use your government money to join an MLM, get some other people to do the same and, magically, everyone will be off Food Stamps and have free food for life.

    In the earliest hours of the PP Blog’s reporting on this, it was apparent that some folks with strong antigovernment sentiments were on board this train. Some of them, at least, appear to be trying to create a backdoor route to wealth and have the government pay for it.

    In some ways it reminded me of the tax pitch by DNA, which told the troops that driving 10,000 miles a year to record license plates could result in a deduction of $5,000.

    If the USDA now is being tapped, I hope the Attorney General appoints USDA to the Task Force at the direction of the President.

    First we had the Narc That Car MLM with the license-plate thing. Then, suddenly, magically, we had DNA. If this “grocery” thing is permitted to gain a head of steam, the risk is that other “programs” will pop up — like the Pac Men of autosurfing.

    Patrick

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  4. Quick note:

    I wanted to add to my comment above that I believe there is considerable wink-nod in the MPB Today program and that the company has created the precise conditions required for abuse to occur.

    MPB Today published images of Trump and Buffet — and affiliates ran with them. MPB Today shows a picture of a Walmart store — and affiliates ran with it. MPB Today creates a dire drum beat and flashes a “Foreclosure” sign twice in the first 15 seconds — and affiliates ran with it.

    Someone talked about the EBT cards (Food Stamps) — and the affiliates ran with it.

    Patrick

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  5. There will always be naysayers, complainers, and trouble makers as long as we are on this earth. Every time someone wants to help people and sets in practice a plan to help as many people as possible the roaches come crawling. This behavior makes me sick.

    All MLMs are comprised of adults. Adults have the right (or should have the right) to choose whatever they want to do with their money and what they want to partake in. It is not the right or responsibility of other people or the government to make those decisions for them.

    Those “couple of affiliates” as well as everyone else involved in this should get a life! Leave other people alone and let them hear whatever opportunities come up and decide for themselves if they want to be involved.

    I hope the people who started this and every other MLM or business of any kind get rich. And I hope those that try to destroy them don’t make a penny. There have been negative, gossiping, crybabies as long as there have been people on earth. Fortunately, there are SOME people who get beyond the negativity and actually create great things. So the negative crybabies can enjoy their creations!

    God bless MPB Today and ALL other MLMS, businesses, and anyone trying to make a difference for the betterment of their fellow mankind.

    Roaches: Crawl back into your dark spaces and stay there!

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  6. Angela,

    This program is progressing as they all do. The fans such as yourself eventually start calling the people seeking to shed light on what is going on with these programs names, such as “roaches”, “naysayers”, and worse. Let’s cut to the chase, shall we? I will put up $5000 to the charity of your choice if you can show that the mathematics of MPB Today are sustainable. I have already posted what I believe to be mathematical proof that it is not, and in fact that it is an illegal pyramid scheme. If you fail to be able to prove it is sustainable, your cough up the $5000 to my charity.

    As to your comment that “adults should be able to do whatever they want with their money”, that of course is silly. You are not allowed to do illegal things with your money. You cannot hire a person to kill another, you cannot hire a person to rape another, you cannot use you money as a means to steal from others, etc. (You fall in the latter category btw)

    Angela: There will always be naysayers, complainers, and trouble makers as long as we are on this earth. Every time someone wants to help people and sets in practice a plan to help as many people as possible the roaches come crawling. This behavior makes me sick.All MLMs are comprised of adults. Adults have the right (or should have the right) to choose whatever they want to do with their money and what they want to partake in. It is not the right or responsibility of other people or the government to make those decisions for them. Those “couple of affiliates” as well as everyone else involved in this should get a life! Leave other people alone and let them hear whatever opportunities come up and decide for themselves if they want to be involved. I hope the people who started this and every other MLM or business of any kind get rich. And I hope those that try to destroy them don’t make a penny. There have been negative, gossiping, crybabies as long as there have been people on earth. Fortunately, there are SOME people who get beyond the negativity and actually create great things. So the negative crybabies can enjoy their creations!God bless MPB Today and ALL other MLMS, businesses, and anyone trying to make a difference for the betterment of their fellow mankind.Roaches: Crawl back into your dark spaces and stay there!

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  7. Angela: God bless MPB Today and ALL other MLMS, businesses, and anyone trying to make a difference for the betterment of their fellow mankind.

    Roaches: Crawl back into your dark spaces and stay there!

    Angela,

    A fine member among the AdSurfDaily Christian flock also used “roaches” (“cockroaches,” actually) to describe the critics — along with “rats” and “maggots.”

    You can read about it here:

    http://patrickpretty.com/2009/05/19/patrick-pretty-poof-penalty-plagues-portal-posters/

    Such descriptions hardly seem consistent with Christian teachings.

    In any event, such harshness among the flock made me think that there were some incredibly delusional folks in ASD and more than a few racketeers. Did you know that ASD’s Andy Bowdoin, who urged folks to “have an attitude of gratitude with God” in May 2008, was accused in August 2008 of operating a $100 million Ponzi scheme that separated Christians from their money?

    Here is some background on this fine Christian MLM, which traded on a theme of, “If God be for us, who could be against us?”

    http://patrickpretty.com/2009/05/07/special-report-the-largely-unknown-bowdoin-surf/

    You can get a little more background on Bowdoin’s Christian MLM here:

    http://patrickpretty.com/2009/12/22/editorial-god-las-vegas-satan-the-911-terrorists-the-shills-andy-bowdoin-and-the-u-s-secret-service/

    And you can read about how the Christians in MPB Today reached out to the Christians in ASD here:

    http://patrickpretty.com/2010/08/26/wretched-tawdry-and-cheap-adsurfdaily-members-now-targeted-in-pitches-for-an-mlm-2×2-cycler-one-that-trades-on-walmarts-name-while-offering-blessings/

    Finally, you can read about how a “Christian” MLM cherry-picked believers and morphed into an offshore fraud here:

    http://patrickpretty.com/2009/05/31/is-it-a-ghost-top-5-reasons-to-avoid-adviewglobal/

    I’m wondering, Angela: What should MPB Today do with all the money it is collecting as a result of promos by known scammers, promos from known Ponzi sites and other bizarre promos from its own members — members who have stated publicly that there are liars and thieves and scammers in the company ranks?

    And I’m also wondering if you’re confident that money you received from MPB Today — if any — has not previously been filtered through various “Christian” MLM scams and cash-gifting scams and 2×2 matrices and autosurfs and HYIPs by folks who claim scam critics are “roaches” and “maggots?”

    Here is what Andy Bowdoin’s son said about his “Christian” father:

    http://patrickpretty.com/2010/08/16/son-says-adsurfdailys-andy-bowdoin-used-religion-to-fleece-masses-and-disgraced-family-name-hucksters-scheming-dates-back-to-1960s-another-family-member-says-he-has-a-criminal-mind/

    Patrick

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  8. You people are terrible. MPB is a GREAT program, and it is helping A LOT of people. There are bad people everywhere in everything. MPB needs to just kick out any Affiliates especially with their own unauthorized websites that are a violation of company policy or the law. I have been extremely impressed with the company. The program does work and is sustainable. They earn their money from wholesale to retail ratio on groceries, vendor discounts, manufacturer coupons and they are already building their hub system nationwide for home delivery of groceries. MPB is a brilliant way to establish these customer markets. The $200 you pay in one-time for groceries, and refer 2, when those 2 do the same you either you get free shipping on your PREPAID groceries or a Walmart card in leiu of, plus $300 in commission. So you earn a $500 value, plus the $200 you put in initially, that’s $700….$200 of that the company pays you forward into a new matrix, and as the process continues and is repeated, the people you sponsored come right back in under you and you eventually cycle again. It is sustainable because inheritantly there is hard data that a certain % of people just will not get 2 people and cycle, purely their decision….not the companies. The business will grow from Affiliate enrollment in the early days and into more and substantial home delivery customers later, which is also commissionable. They have a great relationship already with the Council on Aging, hospitals, retirement homes etc. Honey Baked Hams is even considering adding their product line to Southeastern.

    And, the ANNUAL fee for the optional website is $10 OR $39, your choice. And, it’s ONCE A YEAR….give me a break, most companies charge MONTHLY for websites. There is NO montly costs or requirements, no auto-ships.

    I don’t know anything about Ponzi sites, Christian scams and all that hot air you people are bellowing. All I know is that the very WORST thing that could happen to a person is that they would have to pay shipping on the groceries they paid for, plus the $10. Seems like to me most ANYTHING you order off the internet you have to pay shipping on. And the BEST thing that could happen is that you ELIMINATE your gas and grocery bills and earn a 6 figure income. I also know that I paid my $10 and I am already on my 5th cycle. Hmmm….let me do the math here….that’s $1,000 at Walmart I didn’t have to pay, and that’s $1,500 in cash I didn’t have in the bank before. I would think my ROI return on investment is better than anything out there. If the company closed tomorrow I figure I am ahead by $2490! And, I also know that I can drive across the state and walk into the corporate office and would be welcome anytime.

    YOU PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS. This program is such a blessing, you wouldn’t know a good thing if it hit you square in the mouth. You should quit trying to destroy something that America desperately needs right now, and JOIN our mission our movement to HELP OTHERS.
    And, to be HONEST, FAIR, and BALANCED tell prospects that if they don’t plan on getting 2 people then just don’t join….that’s it. And, when a Hub comes to their town they can be a customer for grocery home delivery, that simple.

    Due dilligence is healthy, beyond that there seems to be an epidemic of cynicism and apathy. There are 1000’s upon 1000’s of very reputable people that are part of MPB, radio people, retired NFL head coaches…..and there are going to be tons more. I am a licensed health practitioner retired from clinical practice. And my focus in helping small business earn working capital to protect their assets. I heard from a lady that owns 3 Subway sandwich franchises plus 2 other businesses and she is making more money in MPB than what she clears from all 5 of her other businesses. Small businesses in our area have REALLY been hit hard by the recession.

    If you are a GOOD person, we would love to have you on our team.

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  9. Susan, or should that be Jacob? All the usual pyramid scheme excuses.

    Susan: ll I know is that the very WORST thing that could happen to a person is that they would have to pay shipping on the groceries they paid for, plus the $10.

    So, the “worst” is they would pay $310 for $200 worth of groceries? What sort of idiot would think that was a good thing to do? How would someone “LIMINATE your gas and grocery bills and earn a 6 figure income” by constantly paying $310 for $200 worth of groceries?

    Susan: And, to be HONEST, FAIR, and BALANCED tell prospects that if they don’t plan on getting 2 people then just don’t join….that’s it.

    Why don’t you be “HONEST, FAIR, and BALANCED” and say that the only way to make money is to recruit others into the pyramid scheme. Why not be “HONEST, FAIR, and BALANCED” and say that 84% of people will “lose” in this pyramid scheme?

    Susan: If you are a GOOD person, we would love to have you on our team.

    Is “GOOD” defined as being stupid, gullible or dishonest enough to participate on an obvious pyramid scheme?

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  10. Susan: You people are terrible.

    Susan,

    In your efforts to perform PR for MPB Today, at least you didn’t call “you people” a “cockroach” or a “rat” or a “maggot.”

    Susan: MPB is a GREAT program

    Where did it get the money to pay you each time you cycled? Any chance that money came from other participants?

    In my view, MPB Today’s 2×2 matrix cycler is a pyramid-style Ponzi scheme. You might want to refer to this reference by the U.S. Secret Service to another 2×2 matrix cycler known as Regenesis 2×2, which was promoted from the same Ponzi forums that are promoting MPB Today.

    The Secret Service called Regenesis 2×2 a “pyramid style Ponzi scheme.” See paragraph 14 in this screen shot from a Secret Service filing in the case:

    http://patrickpretty.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/regenesis2x2swa.gif

    On a side note, I have the search-warrant application in the Regenesis 2×2 case. It shows that some of the participants were kept under surveillance for weeks before the Secret Service went to court.

    Susan: The program does work and is sustainable.

    There is zero chance that it is sustainable in its current form unless the program owners have plunked down millions of dollars of their own cash and don’t mind frittering it away. What it is right now — at this moment in time — is manageable. The reason it’s manageable is that it has managed to recruit thousands of people to do its bidding for it. Bernard Madoff created the illusion of sustainability for at least 15 years — right up until the Last Great Day.

    Susan: They earn their money from wholesale to retail ratio on groceries, vendor discounts, manufacturer coupons and they are already building their hub system nationwide for home delivery of groceries.

    Have you seen MPB Today’s books? I’d recommend that you appear in Pensacola and ask to inspect them. I’d also recommend that you ask for ironclad proof that they “earn their money from wholesale to retail ratio on groceries.”

    And it also might be smart to demand proof of the “vendor discounts” and the cash-flow from coupon exchanges.” I wouldn’t be satisfied — if I were you — if these numbers from these purported relationships are anything less than enormous.

    The “grocery” business is a low-margin business that is very sensitive to things it cannot control: the weather, shifts in consumer tastes, the general economic climate, competitive saturation.

    MPB Today, citing no authoritative source, says the home-delivery business will soar to $85 billion in five to 10 years. Assuming that is true, then MPB Today should expect healthy competition from well-capitalized companies that are not paying Walmart $200 every time someone “cycles” and checks for $300 to drive business to the company before deal-killing shipping costs are factored in.

    MPB Today also should fear Walmart. If Walmart sees “home delivery” soaring to $85 billion, it may opt to own the space — and won’t have the problem posed by $200 gift cards, $300 commission checks and appeals from MPB Today promoters to get Food Stamp recipients to pay up to $300 for $200 worth of groceries.

    Walmart also won’t have the problem of commission-based salespeople defending the company by calling critics and reporters “cockroaches” and “idiots” and “terrible” people.

    Perhaps you’d be wise to study this wholesale “grocery” Ponzi case in Florida and perhaps use some of the information to prompt MPB Today to show its books to you, contracts with suppliers/vendors, etc.

    http://patrickpretty.com/2010/09/16/nevin-shapiro-florida-man-who-ran-grocery-ponzi-scheme-pleads-guilty-feds-say-con-gathered-at-least-880-million-while-fraudster-leased-mercedes-for-4700-a-month/

    Susan: It is sustainable because inheritantly there is hard data that a certain % of people just will not get 2 people and cycle,

    MPB Today is going to love you for this one.

    Susan: They have a great relationship already with the Council on Aging, hospitals, retirement homes etc.

    You’ve seen the books, right? These enterprises would have to be doing ENORMOUS volume with MPB Today to make a difference in the Ponzi math. Please identify the names and locations of these enterprises.

    Susan: I don’t know anything about Ponzi sites, Christian scams

    This site exists to show you these things and why they are important to understand. You are at risk of being sued by every single person you’ve recruited or who falls into your organization. Given the nature of 2×2 matrices, I’d say the prospect of litigation in some form is highly probable.

    Gary Calhoun’s past problem with the FDA and litigation surrounding previous ventures intensifies the risk, in my view.

    Susan: If the company closed tomorrow I figure I am ahead by $2490!

    Others have lost to enable you to be ahead by this much. That’s why MPB Today likely won’t be thrilled with your comment that I noted above. My guess is that MPB Today also won’t be thrilled with the PR approach you’re using to defend the company.

    Susan: YOU PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS.

    In your efforts to perform PR for MPB Today, at least you didn’t call “you people” a “cockroach” or a “rat” or a “maggot.”

    Susan: JOIN our mission our movement to HELP OTHERS

    So, it’s a “mission” and a “movement” now, huh? Maybe that’s why some folks have created .org sites to promote MPB Today. They want prospects to believe they’re helping a charity — just like the folks in Narc That Car and Data Network Affiliates did.

    I saw the website of an MPB Today promoter that had at least 100 links to surfing sites (which the government has a history of attacking in court), and also a link to Data Network Affiliates.

    It’s also clear that serial Ponzi scheme enthusiasts are promoting MPB Today. That’s potentially bad news for you, Susan. It means that known scammers are pushing money toward MPB Today, which means that MPB Today could be paying people with dirty money.

    Susan: Due dilligence is healthy

    “Due diligence” is impossible to perform on MPB Today.

    Susan: There are 1000′s upon 1000′s of very reputable people that are part of MPB, radio people, retired NFL head coaches…..

    It is pretty easy for MLM hucksters to hoodwink reputable people, even former NFL head coaches. Who are the former coaches?

    Susan: I heard from a lady that owns 3 Subway sandwich franchises plus 2 other businesses and she is making more money in MPB than what she clears from all 5 of her other businesses.

    If MPB Today collapses and litigation ensues, I hope it does not affect the woman who owns three Subway sandwich franchises and two other businesses.

    Susan: If you are a GOOD person, we would love to have you on our team

    Lots of “GOOD” people won’t be able to get their two to get two. They’ll become net losers. The “winners” will be paid from proceeds submitted by the losers. After the losers lose, some of the MLM brainiacs will declare that the losers went into the “opportunity” with their eyes wide open.

    In other words, the brainiacs will blame the victims for not being skilled enough to recruit two who can recruit two or for being “lazy” or caught up in a “negative” mind-set that made them fundamentally worthless to the organization — except for their $210 or $239, of course.

    Patrick

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  11. Ha. 2 more slugs that can’t make their money back and are blaming those exposing the truth. Why would you need MPB when Schwans offers home delivery for years already?

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  12. Susan,

    My offer to Angela applies to you as well. Please tell me where the money that you have “made” has come from? The math shows as a general case it comes from other people who (as even YOU point out) will wind up being losers. The math is pretty condemning. You say that a certain percent will lose — those that don’t — or cannot — recruit 2 members underneath them. That is the very essence of the problem! In order for each person to come out ahead, they need to recruit two new people. That then becomes four (two each for the two people recuited), then eight, then sixteen, etc. Eventually, everyone on the planet has to join, but then what happens to them? The last groups of people to join any pyramid scheme lose, and MPB is no exception. That you have illegally made money is irrelevant — EVERYONE in the early stages of illegal pyramids make money. That’s how they recruit the suckers….errrr people into these schemes. As an exercise, try to calculate the number of people (as a percent) who are GUARANTEED to lose money in MPB. I have already done so — are you mathematically literate enough to do so? No offense intended, but if you work the math, you might gain some insights.

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  13. I am sorry you have led such a sheltered life and don’t know two people that buys groceries or shops at Walmart. Maybe you’ve been chained up in a basement.

    Kay Stepehenson, former head coach Buffalo Bills, “Papa” Don Schroeder owner of WPNN 30 year veteran talk radio…..I understand to be MPB Affiliates.

    We don’t get paid to recruit anybody, and people can join for free and earn commissions. We get paid commissions on grocery sales. All mlm companies provide commissions and bonuses based on product sales and team sales, this is no different. One cycle is $1200 in grocery sales. I have only personally enrolled 7 people, and have over 100………..I haven’t hyped or misled ANYONE. This is different program from what you may have seen in the past.

    My son a college student out in Oklahoma lost his parttime job and was able to pay his rent for October because he just got a commission check from MPB.

    I think you are wrong. And, there about 3-4 home delivery companies in the U.S. and growing….I think “peapod” or something like that is one. I think Southeastern will be a major player in the home grocery business. AND, you know what you can go right now to Walmart.com and order GROCERIES!!!!! Well, bless my heart.
    Walmart knows all about Southeastern and to my understanding negotiated a “business customer contract”. They know all about how many groceries they are shipping and Walmart cards they are buying (at a discount). They LOVE Southeastern because it puts people in their stores….. but they will not tolerate misuse or misrepresentation of their registered name, have and will continue to go after the individuals directly NOT Southeastern/MPB on the issue. MPB has made it clear that to be a violation and it is part of the “Terms” for Affiliate which they must acknowledge before joining. NOBODY is trying to pull the wool over anybody’s eyes.

    You will see once the investigation is done, they will not only get a “clean bill”…………but in my opinion KUDOS. And, you will owe an apology to Southern Eastern Delivery.

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  14. Slightly off topic, but it appears that Susan has a number of “qualifications” which allow her to have letters after her name: Dip. Ir, MS, LMT, CT, CLC’s. “Dip. Ir” appears to mean Diplomate of Iridology. For those (like me) who don’t/didn’t know what Iridology is, wikipedia says:

    Iridology (also known as iridodiagnosis[1]) is an alternative medicine technique whose proponents believe that patterns, colors, and other characteristics of the iris can be examined to determine information about a patient’s systemic health. Practitioners match their observations to iris charts, which divide the iris into zones that correspond to specific parts of the human body. Iridologists see the eyes as “windows” into the body’s state of health.

    The majority of medical doctors reject all the claims of all branches of iridology and label them as pseudoscience or even quackery.[3] Iridologists are rarely physicians. Iridology is only studied at private institutions, and it is not taught at medical schools.

    Susan, what do the other letters after your name mean? Do they have anything to do with “xooma” and/or “alkaline water”?

    And totally not connected at all in any way what so ever, lets think back to ASD supporter and tax evader “Professor” Moriarty and his fake qualification certificate business.

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  15. MS – Master’s Degree from Clayton College
    LMT – Licensed Massage Therapist (Florida) #MA34901
    CT – I-ACT & NBCHT Certified Instructor in Colon Hydrotherapy
    F-SD999061 20020241
    CLC – Certified Life Coach

    I owned and operated one of the largest wellness centers of it’s kind in Florida for nearly ten years. I won “Best of St. Augustine” and was featured in the “Who’s Who of St. Augustine”.

    I worked with many mlm companies for many years because I needed some specific products but never to rarely worked any of them as a business. I am not a sales person though respect those that are. I have always been known as a consumer advocate advising clients of the best products for the best price whether they got it from the health food store, my clinic, or the internet.

    I see MPB as a community advocacy program, because I see its good deeds going in many directions, whether its just a struggling family that needs help with the LARGEST household expense other than their mortgage, to the small business owner, and I figure the “movers and shakers” will take care of themselves…..that’s not me.

    I don’t know who ASD is or that Professor. And, I assure you I am not a fake.

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  16. Oh, and by the way I didn’t address your slight to Iridology. Where you are absolutely incorrect. I attended a World Congress of Integrative Health, with MEDICAL PHYSICIANS from many countries including the UNITED STATES whom are also IRIDOLOGISTS. Iridology is standard diagnostic protocol espeically in Germany. You need to do a little more research before you FURTHER embarrass yourself.

    The original medical schools in the U.S. taught HOLISTIC medicine before the AMA came along. If you think western medicine has ALL the answers………..people will run from you my friend.

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  17. Susan: I am sorry you have led such a sheltered life and don’t know two people that buys groceries or shops at Walmart. Maybe you’ve been chained up in a basement.

    That’s right out of the playbook for MLM deflections. Where’d you get your copy? From one of the retired NFL coaches you understand to be MPB Today members?

    Susan: We don’t get paid to recruit anybody,

    Sure you do. You can’t get 2×2 matrix cycler commissions otherwise. If you don’t have your two and your position in the cycler comes up, your commissions are “banked” — meaning you don’t get them until you get your two.

    Susan: We get paid commissions on grocery sales.

    Out of X number of people in your downline/upline, how many people actually bought groceries from MPB Today? If it is a high number, is it representative of the rest of the field?

    If it’s a low number, why is it low?

    Along those lines, what’s a grocery “voucher?” What’s a “Prepaid Grocery Receipt?”

    Can I use a $200 Walmart gift card from MPB Today to apply to the sale of, say, one of those great specials Walmart has from time to time in which customers can walk away with a downright decent laptop computer for $298?

    And if I can, how can it be said I made a grocery purchase either from MPB Today or Walmart?

    Along those lines, if I convert my “voucher” or “Prepaid Grocery Receipt” to a Walmart gift card, can I then convert that Walmart giftcard to a prepaid Visa card that spends like cash?

    Susan: Walmart knows all about Southeastern and to my understanding negotiated a “business customer contract”.

    Have you see the “contract?” If it exists, are you sure that all of the facts were related correctly to Walmart? I contacted Walmart. No comment from them.

    Susan: They LOVE Southeastern because it puts people in their stores

    Who is your source at Walmart for this claim? Ask your source if Walmart “LOVES” it when MPB Today members use Walmart’s name in domain registrations.

    And ask your source if Walmart “LOVES” it when MPB Today affiliates urge members not to use the Walmart gift cards and to lay down their pipe bombs when they contemplate how much they hate Walmart.

    http://patrickpretty.com/2010/09/16/bizarre-pitch-for-mpb-today-paints-walmart-as-soul-stealer-and-asks-prospects-not-to-accept-gift-card/

    Also, ask your source if Walmart “LOVES” it when MPB Today affiliates attack the President of the United States, the First Lady of the United States, and the Secretary of State of the United States?

    http://patrickpretty.com/2010/09/08/images-of-walmart-donald-trump-warren-buffet-removed-from-mpb-today-website-testimonials-go-missing-too-affiliate-bashes-obama-hillary-clinton-in-promo/

    Should MPB Today apologize to the White House and Walmart and Democrats in general and the American people in particular for these bizarre sales promos?

    Susan: You will see once the investigation is done, they will not only get a “clean bill”…………but in my opinion KUDOS.

    What government agency would issue a “clean bill” and “KUDOS” to a company that is operating a 2×2 matrix cycler advertised on Ponzi boards that are cited in both criminal and civil Ponzi prosecutions — and a company whose members are targeting Ponzi scheme victims, foreclosure subjects and Food Stamp recipients in sales promos?

    Susan: And, you will owe an apology to Southern Eastern Delivery.

    For what? Pointing out that its own members are endangering the enterprise?

    Patrick

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  18. Susan: MS – Master’s Degree from Clayton College
    LMT – Licensed Massage Therapist (Florida) #MA34901
    CT – I-ACT & NBCHT Certified Instructor in Colon Hydrotherapy
    F-SD999061 20020241
    CLC – Certified Life Coach

    Thanks for that. I don’t have time to check them all, and I really do not want to know what “Colon Hydrotherapy” is. But Clayton College from wikipedia:

    The Clayton College of Natural Health was a non-accredited American distance-learning natural health college based in Birmingham, Alabama, offering classes on natural health.

    Because the school was not accredited, degrees earned did not qualify the graduate for any professional license in any state in the United States.

    So that’s a Diploma in pseudoscience or quackery, and a Masters from a non-accredited college.
    Don’t worry Susan, you are just the type of person that MPB Today promoters are targeting.

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  19. and I really do not want to know what “Colon Hydrotherapy” is.

    Basically a fecal fetish.

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  20. Again you are incorrect. Clayton College is accredited, it is not public funded, it is a private college. Why don’t you contact them. I am quite sure they would be very much offended by your statements.

    And, to Patrick you are right………..those individuals that have said and done those things should be delt with harshly, as they are not the attitude of the company, the majority of the affiliates, including myself.

    I have learned……….today…………..it’s best just not to blog or express my opinion. Because bloggers can be very mean spirited people.

    I worked very hard and for many years on my education and have helped so many people through my work restore their health WITHOUT drugs or surgery when possible, and many letters of appreciation to prove it.

    Have a good day.

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  21. Susan: Again you are incorrect. Clayton College is accredited, it is not public funded, it is a private college. Why don’t you contact them. I am quite sure they would be very much offended by your statements.

    That might be difficult. Again, from the wikipedia article:

    In July 2010 the college announced on its website that it was ceasing operations, blaming a number of factors but primarily the effects of the recent economic recession.[

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clayton_College_of_Natural_Health
    It specifically states in that article several times that it was unaccredited.
    This may all seem a bit off topic, but it shows that these pyramid promoters will even put letters after their names, thereby giving the impression of a person to trust. It’s just another trick.

    admin: That’s right out of the playbook for MLM deflections. Where’d you get your copy?

    Perhaps she learnt that trick while promoting “xooma” – there’s a thread about that MLM “opportunity” at scam.com. It’s a MLM favourite – alkaline water with a (in 2005) “2 x 6 forced spillover, full conversion matrix”. Perhaps Susan is so keen on MPB Toda

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  22. Susan: I have learned……….today…………..it’s best just not to blog or express my opinion. Because bloggers can be very mean spirited people.

    Susan,

    The very first sentence you posted on this Blog claimed that “You people are terrible.” Later in your opening post, you declared the same subset of “you people” “IDIOTS.”

    You posted not all that long after Angela declared the posters here “roaches.”

    “Roaches,” she said. “Crawl back into your dark spaces and stay there!”

    Both you and Angela are MPB Today affiliates. This situation has occurred with virtually every MLM I have covered. I covered one (ASD) in which people who purported to be Christians asked God to strike the prosecutors dead and to put one of them into a medieval torture rack. I also observed MLMers describe the U.S. Secret Service — the agency that guards the President of the United States and the Treasury — as “Satan.”

    I have seen a federal judge called “brain dead” if she didn’t rule in ASD’s favor — by some of the very same people who purported to be asking God to guide her through prayer.

    And now, with MPB Today, I’ve seen the President of the United States and the U.S. Secretary of State described as Nazis, with the secretary depicted as a drunk and the President’s wife — the mother of two children — depicted as stinking up the Oval Office.

    It is beyond galling that you apparently believe it is perfectly OK to use the phrase “you people” and then go on to explain that “you people” are “terrible” and “IDIOTS” and then declare you are going to take your ball and go home because the folks here “can be very mean spirited people.”

    Although it is beyond galling, it is far from unprecedented. One autosurf Ponzi enthusiast called me a “fag,” and another observed that it might have been understandable had my mother aborted me.

    None of this stuff surprises me any longer. I mean, how can I be surprised when some MLM cheerleaders have declared themselves “sovereign” beings answerable only to Jesus Christ while others have pointed out that they’ve served harder prison time than John Gotti?

    Patrick

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  23. With all the protesting that is going on about the “incorrect” promotion of MPB Today, we seem to be overlooking one point. It is highly probable that the ownership/management of MPB Today is perfectly aware of most of the claims made by their IBOs.

    They cannot possibly be unaware that MPB Today is being promoted on the HYIP/Ponzi boards. They cannot possibly be aware of the politically extremist videos on You Tube. It is likely that they are aware of this blog too. MPB only have to “google” themselves and they will find enough damning evidence to kick out ALL the “guilty parties”.

    They have chosen a business model, the 2 x 2 matrix, which has yet to be sustainable in any other siimilar business, and which has been at the root of many failed or prosecuted schemes. You tell us they are changing their compensation plan, but making something legal after it has been illegal is shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted and wont wash with the authorities. It’s been tried before and failed. Ask Andy Bowdoin of ASD.

    You tell us that you have never heard of ASD,(currently in court on charges of wire fraud, money laundering and conspiracy but you are involved in a scheme which is also being promoted by characters who know exactly what ASD was and some of who promoted that too. They are certainly targeting their victims. I’ll bet you that Garry Calhoun has heard of ASD, and CEP and 12 Daily Pro and My Harvest America and DNA and also knows personally many of the promoters who advertise his scheme on the HYIP/Ponzi Boards. I’ll also bet that you have heard of Bernard Madoff.

    Far from being roaches or BAD people, the people who write on this blog are concerned that its readers are made aware of the dangers of schemes like MPB Today and help them to see through the univerified hype to the verified truth of their situation. MPB Today is mathmatically unsustainable, it is being investigated by the authorities because it has chosen to target people in receipt of Food Stamps, and its owner has a (verified) checkered business history. Many of the claims it makes are false and it is highly likely to turn out to be a ponzi in which there will be about a 14% number of “winners” who have profited from a criminal activity and an 86% who will lose their money.

    Instead of cricizing this blog, you would be better served by asking some very hard questions of the owners of MPB Today and getting some verifiable answers.

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  24. I think Patrick Pretty is bias against Network Marketing. I am not saying that MPB Today is a perfect system. But, this patrick pretty seem to be nothing but on a rampage. In my book its nothing more than someone being a prick. I’m sorry! Let me take it a step farther. He’s nothing more than an asshole!

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  25. One more thing… This health care bill that the president has passed is no more of a scam than your claims on some companies. This is a free country and freedom of speech is something I will continue to defend. Having said that, I could careless of what Obama and his thugs do. They are nothing more than a bunch of ass clowns in that white house. They will be defeated in 2012! Gee! You sound worse than the people that are fighting against the Chick Fil-A company because he doesn’t support what the liberal media want. As far as apologizing to the white house and obama. They don’t deserve shit as far as I am concern!

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  26. It’s not Patrick’s fault you got in too late and can’t get your money back from the other scammers.

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