UPDATE: Antihistorical ‘MoneyMakingBrain’ Claim: ‘Law Enforcement Agencies Don’t Pay Attention To What’s Being Said On Forums And Blogs’

“There is a line between First Amendment Rights vs. Libel here. So, when does your right to form an opinion begins (sic) and when does it constitute a defamation of character? The answer is, law enforcement agencies don’t pay attention to what’s being said on forums and blogs, so get your head straight and feet firm on the ground.”“MoneyMakingBrain,” in March 4, 2012, post on RealScam.com

As previously reported on the PP Blog, a JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid “defender” known as “MoneyMakingBrain” (MMB) has emailed threats to the PP Blog, hatched bizarre conspiracy theories here and at RealScam.com and planted the seed that he was someone to fear.

The email threats were received after MMB claimed Feb. 18 on RealScam he had performed “due diligence” on JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid. On a website known as “ReviewOPedia,” a poster with the same handle offered this on Feb. 14, in the context of JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid:

“They are for real! ”

Within the same Feb. 14 ReviewOPedia post, MoneyMakingBrain ventured this (italics added):

“BTW, everybody should check out the JBP live support chatroom which has over 160 people at any given time and is live 24/7. You can ask all the questions you can come up with and there is always moderator. Who does that? I’m sold already. So, if someone here claims that they ‘didn’t get paid’, either they still don’t understand how the matrix works or they’re just internet trolls.”

Whether the “MoneyMakingBrain” on the PP Blog and the “MoneyMakingBrain” on ReviewOPedia are one and the same is unknown to the PP Blog.

Precisely why the MMB known to the PP Blog and RealScam.com has been trying to chill specific individuals and antiscam forums is unclear. What is known is that what he’s doing is hardly unique.

Lessons Of HYIP History Ignored

While asserting that he knows the PP Blog’s IP address and posting location, MMB now is making a claim on RealScam, a forum that concerns itself with international mass-marketing fraud, that “law enforcement agencies don’t pay attention to what’s being said on forums and blogs.”

That claim is contrary to the public record, which shows that any number of agencies, self-regulatory bodies and private attorneys have been noting for years that HYIP schemes are proliferating on the Internet and being spread by posters on forums and social-networking sites. It also ignores the reality — also a matter of public record — that law-enforcement has a history of filing court documents that reproduce HYIP forum posts and of infiltrating HYIP schemes.

Prominent FINRA Warning On HYIPs

In July 2010,  the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority issued this highly public alert. FINRA noted that “HYIPs use an array of websites and social media — including YouTube, Twitter and Facebook — to lure investors.”

HYIPs fabricate a “buzz” and create “the illusion of social consensus,” FINRA said, describing the sinister approach as a “common persuasion tactic fraudsters use to suggest that “everyone is investing in HYIPs, so they must be legitimate.”

Forum Posts Become Evidence In HYIP Cases

In the SEC’s May 2008 prosecution of the Legisi HYIP scheme, the agency included page after page of forum posts as part of a 267-page evidence exhibit in support of an asset freeze.  A federal judge approved the freeze. (The screenshot below is from one of the forum pages.)

Legisi operator Gregory McKnight pleaded guilty to criminal charges of wire fraud last month. He also faces millions of dollars in civil judgments. The SEC Legisi filings also include a reference to the MoneyMakerGroup forum, which is listed in other federal court filings as a place from which HYIP Ponzi schemes are promoted.

This section of the Legisi Terms of Service purports that members must avow they are not an "informant, nor associated with any informant" of the IRS, FBI, CIA and the SEC, among others. The others included "Her Majesty's Police," the Intelligence Services of Great Britain, the Serious Fraud Office, Interpol and others.

Included within the SEC filings is a reproduction of Legisi’s bizarre Terms. (See graphic at right. It is taken from court filings.) Among other things, the Terms made members avow they were not an “informant” for various government entities.

JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid has similar Terms. The Terms read like an invitation to join an international financial conspiracy. (The next two paragraphs are verbatim from the JSS Tripler/Just BeenPaid member agreement. Italics added.)

6. I affirm that I am not an employee or official of any government agency, nor am I acting on behalf of or collecting information for or on behalf of any government agency.

7. I affirm that I am not an employee, by contract or otherwise, of any media or research company, and I am not reading any of the JBP pages in order to collect information for someone else.

When the U.S. Postal Inspection Service filed criminal charges against Nicholas Smirnow in May 2010 for his alleged operation of the Pathway To Prosperity HYIP Ponzi scheme, MoneyMakerGroup, TalkGold and ASAMonitor were specifically referenced in the service’s case filings. Smirnow now has his face on an INTERPOL “Wanted” poster.

MMB took great exception to the PP Blog’s Smirnow post, apparently believing it had no relevance in the context of JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid. MMB also apparently believes the PP Blog and RealScam are treating Frederick Mann, the purported operator of JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid, unfairly.

Among other things, MMB asserted on the PP Blog that “no one is invisible to the MoneyMakingBrain and you need to stop doing what you’re doing against this man immediately. Because if you don’t, I am going to make a formal complain (sic) to the very authorities you purport are coming after scam sites and send all the evidence I’ve gathered so far from posting on your site and the realscam site. I don’t like witch hunts and I am sure Fred Mann can whip your ass in court for your highly suggestive, provocative, highly contentious and flat-out defamatory commentaries against his character on your sites.”

MMB further suggested that JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid critics may be “needing to look for another ISP because you won’t have internet access at home or your office, wherever.”

About three months after the SEC brought the $72 million Legisi/McKnight HYIP Ponzi case, the U.S. Secret Service — in August 2008 — filed evidence exhibits in support of an order to freeze tens of millions of dollars in AdSurfDaily-related bank accounts. The complaint in support of the seizure specifically references an ASD-related “Breaking News” Blog, and an evidence exhibit labeled “Government Exhibit 5” consists entirely of an ASD-related post on a different Blog that took up 15 printed pages.

The 15-page post featured alleged comments from ASD President Andy Bowdoin in which he threatened to sue critics.

“These people that are making these slanderous remarks, they are going to continue these slanderous remarks in a court of law defending about a 30 to 40 million dollar slander lawsuit,” the post quoted Bowdoin as saying. (The screen shot below is from Government Exhibit 5. It has been a matter of public record approaching four years.)

Both the ASD and Legisi investigations used government agents in undercover capacities, according to court filings.

Meanwhile, in June 2009, attorneys suing Bowdoin on behalf of ASD members in a civil RICO (racketeering) case referred to the PP Blog’s reporting on the ASD Ponzi case, specifically its reporting on a spinoff surf known as AdViewGlobal (AVG). (See court document. See June 30, 2009, related story. See PP Blog story the attorneys referenced in their filings.)

Threat Of  HYIP ‘Fire Power’

Also in June 2009, a poster who purported to be an attorney issued a veiled threat to the PP Blog, stating that that “[i]f you keep pushing it now the toes you are stepping on might start stepping back. Looks like they have some fire power behind them now.”

AVG ceased payouts about 24 days after the threat. Even as it suspended cashouts, AVG threatened the media with copyright-infringement lawsuits for reporting on the payout suspension. Within days, it planted the seed that it would arrange to have the Internet Service Provider (ISP) connections of critics suspended.

During its short run, AVG bizarrely asserted that it operated as a “private association” that enjoyed U.S. Constitutional protections in Uruguay. AVG used U.S.-based Gmail addresses to conduct business, something JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid is doing. The defunct surf further claimed that it had appointed a person who held the title of “Protector.”

Such claims have been linked to the so-called “sovereign citizen” movement. On Feb. 27, 2012, the PP Blog reported that a site linked to Mann published videos of Francis Schaeffer Cox, a purported “sovereign citizen” indicted in Alaska in an alleged murder plot against public officials. The site features a drop-in ad for JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid that encourages prospects to register with  a Gmail address.

Whether MMB is aware of all of these these historical incidents while issuing threats and planting the seed he has the power to divorce JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid critics from their Internet connections is not known. MMB’s posting privileges were revoked by the PP Blog last week after he emailed threats and menacing communications. RealScam has continued to permit MMB to post on its forum.

The PP Blog believes it is unwise to click on any link MMB has posted on RealScam. He appears to be attempting to bait members of the antiscam community into clicking on links as part of a bid to gather IP addresses and other data from posters — all while asserting he has the power to use the information to harm individuals and entities such as Eagle Research Associates, a California based nonprofit that seeks to educate the public about scams.

Piling On The HYIP Absurdity

In what would become one of the most visited threads in the history of the PP Blog, a poster known as “CORRECTION” repeatedly demanded that the Blog retract this June 3, 2009, headline about the AdViewGlobal (AVG) autosurf and a strategy advanced by a promoter by which AVG upline sponsors could gather money from individual prospects and funnel it through the sponsors’ local banks before passing it to offshore payment processors — instead of letting AVG gather the money.

“Get it right before you lead with this inaccurate, bias (sic) and unfair reporting!!!!!!!!!!!” CORRECTION demanded.

The PP Blog did not submit to the demand to retract the headline.

It was revealed later in court filings that the grand jury that indicted Bowdoin on charges of wire fraud, securities fraud and selling unregistered securities began to meet in May 2009, about a month prior to ASD- and AVG-related threats and demands made against the PP Blog.

More Gov’t HYIP Documentation

Read this SEC warning about social-media fraud.

Read a December 2010 statement from a top FBI official on “Operation Broken Trust” and why Americans need to be vigilant in the era of HYIP schemes and mass-marketing fraud.

“The focus of this sweep was fraud committed against individual investors, including Ponzi schemes, high-yield investment fraud, and market manipulation cases,” said Shawn Henry, the FBI’s executive assistant director. “Operation Broken Trust highlights the pervasiveness of the threat we face, and its impact on individuals from all walks of life.

“The perpetrators of these crimes are those who YOU might trust . . . friends and colleagues — people from your workplace, your child’s soccer team, even your church,” Henry said.

Read this March 1, 2012, story that reports a top U.S. Justice Department official speaking in Mexico referenced bogus libel lawsuits filed to protect criminal enterprises. Read this Justice Department news release last week on a meeting in Ottawa between top U.S. officials and top Canadian officials to discuss cross-border fraud.

More HYIP Nonsense: No ‘Unfriendly Political Jurisdictions’

JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid purports to pay a daily return of twice that offered by Bowdoin and ASD — and eight times that of Legisi. The JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid returns are somewhat on par with the returns offered by Pathway To Prosperity.

At the same time, JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid says this on its website (italics added):

“Our business operations are geographically decentralized. We don’t have any central office. We’re not located in any ‘unfriendly political jurisdictions.'”

It is difficult to conceive how JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid could send any brighter signals of a scam in progress, given its absurd advertised rate of return and a public proclamation that it is not located in any “unfriendly political jurisdictions.”

In 2008, Frederick Mann, the purported operator of JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid, identified himself as an ASD pitchman. On Jan. 23, 2012 — six weeks ago today — the Italian securities regulator CONSOB announced it had opened a JSS Tripler-related probe and issued a 90-day suspension order.

During a March 1 conference call for JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid, a caller informed Mann that a member of his second-level downline had informed him that the member’s bid to advertise the “opportunity” had been blocked in Holland amid concerns of legality.

“Tell him not to advertise in any particular country,” Mann replied.

In a Feb. 23 conference call, Mann declined to identify JSS Tripler with a nation-state, asserting that the opportunity was “not located in any specific part of the world. We’re all over the planet.”



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9 Responses to “UPDATE: Antihistorical ‘MoneyMakingBrain’ Claim: ‘Law Enforcement Agencies Don’t Pay Attention To What’s Being Said On Forums And Blogs’”

  1. Well poor MMB’s claim that law enforcement takes no notice of internet boards and blogs seems to be a little out of touch, to put it kindly.

    The poor man has consistently been unable to answer the rather pertinent question as to where the money comes from to finance a 2% DAILY payout to members as well.(as no one has ever legally ever been able to offer an ROI even close to that figure) This is in spite of the fact that an answer to that question would establish the legitimacy or not of Just Been Paid, and by implication, the legality of the role played by Fred Mann

    I am very curious to know how you register a business in a location “We’re all over the planet” so that you can operate legally in whatever country you choose. I wonder if MMB can help us over at Real Scam with an answer to that one?

  2. As some of the readers here know, I have an alarming habit of filing formal complaints and blogging about the opportunities I run across that are, shall we say, uneconomic. I have had the honor and privilege of working with various enforcement agencies over the years. One of the many criteria they use in deciding what to investigate is how much buzz there is on the internet about something. Economic harm, the number of victims and much more is considered, but the amount of internet chatter is a factor and I know for a fact the investigators read blogs and threads on discussion forums. MMB is doing a marvelous job of helping us expose and possibly shut down Just Been Paid (or not)!

  3. As some of the readers here would know, I have an alarming habit of filing formal complaints and blogging about opportunities that are uneconomic. The amount of internet buzz is one of many factors that is used in determining what to investigate and possibly prosecute. The dollar loss, number of victims and much more comes into play, but the internet chatter is definitely a consideration. I can also state that I know for a fact that enforcement agencies do read blogs and discussions board threads. I have had quite the chuckle over that with several investigators over the years. So, MMB is doing a marvelous job of helping us expose Just Been Paid (or not)and perhaps see that law enforcement gets a whole lot more interested!

  4. Curious that MonkeyLameBrain claims“BTW, everybody should check out the JBP live support chatroom which has over 160 people at any given time and is live 24/7. You can ask all the questions you can come up with and there is always moderator.aims,” but fails to mention the numerous members that have done exactly that and are either ignored, or thrown out of the room because the question asked was “negative”, always a key deflection in these scams…! Oops, did I call it a scam without proof? Maybe they’ll sue…! Naw They don’t want to go anywhere near a court…!

  5. Precisely why the MMB known to the PP Blog and RealScam.com has been trying to chill specific individuals and antiscam forums is unclear.

    Hi Patrick.
    It’s perfectly clear….he got in too late and isn’t seeing dime one. lol.

  6. Hmmm, mmb is now trying to act like he is an attorney tossing around all kinds of legal words. Makes me wonder if he is practing law without a license. Of course he is all talk and no walk, but he sure is flapping his gums a lot while saying nothing and is wrong on everything he has said. At last count I am 5 different people at RS, and I own the forum. And Patrick you are just one of my sock puppets. I know because mmb said so, and he knows it all. He is a genius. Just ask him. Actually he is just full of it.

  7. Wait.. I can’t remember if I am supposed to post as Lynn, LRM, or LORM. I am so confused.

  8. Don’t worry about it Wizz, just keep taking the tablets. You are probably Lynn anyway. As the slogan says “We are all Lynndel Edgington”

    I’ll go with Whip on this one – MMB has very likely got some money to lose in Just Been Paid, or has just lost it. His posts and attempts to derail the discussion on Real Scam smell to me of DENIAL (which is not a river in Egypt, Wizz)

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